And this might be the culprit since DA: I was very poorly optimized on PC.votemarvel said:True enough. Look at the mess it made of Dragon Age: Inquisition.Major_Tom said:After all, we are talking about Frostbite, the colossally unoptimised piece of shit.
Coil while only means that your PSU was working with high voltage. Its not dangerous on its own, but it can be a sign of PSU overload which may be dangerous if you got a cheap no-name PSU. Coil while itself is very common, but most manufacturers actually glue the coils in place to reduce it (literally they just pour glue to reduce vibration). I got a GPU that whines when framerates rise over 400. Very annoying in Bethesda games where if you unlock framerate as soon as you go into menu/inventory/book the game stops generating the world behind you so FPS jumps to 2000+ and it starts to whine. I had to make a custom FPS cap at 120 fps just to stop this bug.fix-the-spade said:If it was anyone but DICE developing I'd call those minimum requirement inflated. But I remember the release of Battlefield 2, I remember all the fans on my ?1000 gaming PC spinning up to maximum and the audible coil whine coming out of the PSU, like the machine was screaming for mercy.
No, it is not. not reasonable that is. This is because games do not require that much ram. expoeriments done on builder forums revealed that even games claiming 8 GB to be minimum ran just fine on 3GB and the difference between 3GB and more were nonexistent. Bellow 3 GB you start to have problems, but if you have the currently standard 8 GB you should run EVERYTHING without ANY problems.Kenjitsuka said:16 GB is completely reasonable for any decent gaming machine the past 1-2 years.
RAM is fucking cheap, jeez!
People want their shitty prebuild with 730M in it to run games forever.Lillowh said:A 4-5 year old low-mid range card and low end 4 core cpu on the minimum requirements is steep? What do people expect at the (relative) beginning of a new generation of consoles where they're once again trying to push stuff as much as possible. I don't get it.
I think they just cover themselves since other processes use ram too. When checking my ram usage in game, I don't think I ever went over 6.5, and that's with almost max settings.Charcharo said:It is almost never correctly put in the requirements to be fair.RedDeadFred said:I guess if I wanted to play this on max settings (I don't actually want to play it at all, but hypothetically speaking), I'd have to get more ram. As others have said though, as far as system specs go, ram is one of the cheapest components.
I remember how Witcher 3 said 6GB of RAM as a minimum. It was a lie. Again. Almost ALWAYS is.
Wow. I never paid attention to Battlefront's specs because I had zero desire to get it. People are running it on ultra with 8GB.... I mean, I always knew they exaggerated a bit with any game, but not this much. And then there's a video of a guy running it smoothly on medium with 4GB! I don't think I'll be upgrading in the near future. Today I have learned.Charcharo said:I use Windoes and have dozens of tasks open as well. So all 4GB of RAM did in Witcher 3 was make loadings worse. Nothing more or less.RedDeadFred said:I think they just cover themselves since other processes use ram too. When checking my ram usage in game, I don't think I ever went over 6.5, and that's with almost max settings.Charcharo said:It is almost never correctly put in the requirements to be fair.RedDeadFred said:I guess if I wanted to play this on max settings (I don't actually want to play it at all, but hypothetically speaking), I'd have to get more ram. As others have said though, as far as system specs go, ram is one of the cheapest components.
I remember how Witcher 3 said 6GB of RAM as a minimum. It was a lie. Again. Almost ALWAYS is.
Having a ram or two extra in the requirements is par for the course with most games that say 6-8. Going from 6 to 16 just screams poorly optimized. I'm assuming the game would at least use more than my 8.
Also, Star Wars Battlefront said it wanted 16gb of RAM as well. It was NOT correct and the game is VERY optimized.
So again, just marketing lies people that dont know much (most of the Escapist unfortunately) eat up
Such is life I guess.
To be fair, it IS basically the best graphics card of that generation. XDCharcharo said:Welcome to the club. The old OCed ATI 5770 is STILL playing games. I played Witcher 3 on it.CrystalShadow said:... Eh?
My now 6 year old desktop system, while probably unable to run this still comes surprisingly close to those specs.
If this is considered demanding, I'm concerned about the state of PC gaming, honestly.
Then again, only about 1 in 100 games no longer seem to run on that same 6 year old system.
And before you ask, no it wasn't a top of the line most expensive parts available kind of build either.
Core i5, and 5770 is hardly high end parts. It's the upper bounds of mid-range for that era.
But the thing is, past that point you easily double or triple the cost, (or worse)
In any event, PC gaming has always been expensive if you want to keep up with the mainstream AAA titles.
Or at least, that was absolutely the case from about 1995 to 2005 or so.
After that... Things got a little less predictable, especially since consoles started dictating what high end games looked like, which really wasn't the case before then...
PC Gaming is cheaper than console gaming.
Yes. On the whole fanboys are a pain to listen to, or worse, talk to. XDCharcharo said:AMD FRTC and Undervolting can help an advanced user lower the power usage of newer AMD cards by a huge amount.CrystalShadow said:To be fair, it IS basically the best graphics card of that generation. XDCharcharo said:Welcome to the club. The old OCed ATI 5770 is STILL playing games. I played Witcher 3 on it.CrystalShadow said:... Eh?
My now 6 year old desktop system, while probably unable to run this still comes surprisingly close to those specs.
If this is considered demanding, I'm concerned about the state of PC gaming, honestly.
Then again, only about 1 in 100 games no longer seem to run on that same 6 year old system.
And before you ask, no it wasn't a top of the line most expensive parts available kind of build either.
Core i5, and 5770 is hardly high end parts. It's the upper bounds of mid-range for that era.
But the thing is, past that point you easily double or triple the cost, (or worse)
In any event, PC gaming has always been expensive if you want to keep up with the mainstream AAA titles.
Or at least, that was absolutely the case from about 1995 to 2005 or so.
After that... Things got a little less predictable, especially since consoles started dictating what high end games looked like, which really wasn't the case before then...
PC Gaming is cheaper than console gaming.
Right when the AMD/ATI merger had just happened, and they were still messing with the name. (my card mentions both AMD and ATI).
Best Price/performance, and best performance/watt of the era.
Also makes me laugh watching fanboy arguments about AMD using too much power.
Not because it isn't true at the moment, but because it's presented as though it's some kind of truism that is a permanent fact of life.
(Eg. They imply that it's something that always has been, and always will be, when I have explicit evidence of that not being true in the system I'm using right this second. XD)
Well, yeah. Anyway, the fact that I had a midrange system and basically only feel like I need to upgrade 6 years later...
Just shows it doesn't it.
For that matter it's really only VR that is making me give major thought to an upgrade...
Yeah. PC gaming is just so crazy expensive, huh. XD
With that being said, disregard Nvidia fanboys(and AMD fanboys) or your average PC Gamger. They know too little overall to be a judge on hardware.