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Superior Mind

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I feel I'm the only one annoyed by this.

Warhammer Online and Star Wars: The Old Republic. These are games which have pretty cool trailers, trailers featuring epic battles; they're honestly very exciting. Yet these games are simply examples of samey grind-tastic I-wanna-be-World-of-Warcraft completely and utterly standard MMORPGs. The trailers don't communicate this, the trailers seem to be showing the games as Lord-of-the-Rings-ian epics. In many ways the trailers are better than the games.

(A pause to acknowledge that I can't actually make these claims legitimately about The Old Republic but let's just say I'm pretty sure that I'm right.)

A trailer should be used to gain interest for a game, that's a given, it's an advertisement. But I feel that it gets to the stage where a trailer has actually nothing at all to say about the game. Instead it sells these entertaining epic scenes that certainly gain our attention but show or tell us nothing about the game. Show me a flashy laser show and I'll be interested sure but if it has little to do with what you're trying to sell me than I'll call bullshit on you.

Movie trailers show footage from a movie so you can decide whether you want to see it or not. Sure it is cut together to make the movie as interesting as possible, I can accept that.
Then you've got game trailers showing footage of something that is most certainly not the game. There's something about that which seems a bit off to me.

We all know that the scene depicted in the trailer of The Old Republic is nothng like the game, it's not like people are going to buy the game expecting this kind of stuff, (well let's give the idiocy of the Human Race some credit, there probably will be a few who do,) so what's the harm?

Well basically I fall back on "Don't show me a Lexus and sell me a Toyota" argument. Shouldn't a trailer actually showcase the game rather than an irrelevant bit of cinema that's designed to make us think "cool"? Look at the live-action trailer for Halo ODST. It had sweet fuck-all to do with the game and I read comments like "wow, I'm so getting this now", "that looks awesome can't wait 'till it comes out" etc. etc.

So people are swayed by this. They see the trailer for Warhammer Online or The Old Republic or Halo ODST and think "that's the game and it looks awesome so I'm going to get it". Doesn't that amount to a certain bit of false advertisement?

Like I said I feel like I'm the only one who gets annoyed by this - maybe I am.
 

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Why would a profit seeking entity advertise a pure crap game as pure crap? That is not a sound business plan.
What I really hate are game trailers that actually show nothing of the game, all they really have is a game name and release date, that shows half assed effort in my opinion.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Why would a profit seeking entity advertise a pure crap game as pure crap? That is not a sound business plan.
Well maybe they shouldn't make a crap game then. Honestly if you've got to hide your crap game behind an awesome traler you shouldn't be selling it. I mean what are they thinking:

"Oh man, this game is awful, we can't sell this based on it's own merits."
"Never fear, hide it behind a flashy trailer. As long as it sells I don't care if it's made of poo or not."
 

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It's true. That's why you lookup "So-and-so Gameplay videos" :)

It's advertising, haven't you ever seen a commercial before?
 

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zombflux said:
It's true. That's why you lookup "So-and-so Gameplay videos" :)

It's advertising, haven't you ever seen a commercial before?
Yeah but why should this be acceptable? If an ad on TV shows something that isn't the product they're selling they get taken to court. They don't wait for you to Google or YouTube the product to find out whether they're bullshitting you or not.
 

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Superior Mind said:
zombflux said:
It's true. That's why you lookup "So-and-so Gameplay videos" :)

It's advertising, haven't you ever seen a commercial before?
Yeah but why should this be acceptable? If an ad on TV shows something that isn't the product they're selling they get taken to court. They don't wait for you to Google or YouTube the product to find out whether they're bullshitting you or not.
Actually you would find that the laws regarding that are quite lenient and the people making said ads are usually smart enough to find ways to imply untruths without stating them as fact to misguide consumers. Or in tons of cases, the ad isn't even really related to the product at all, which brings us back to the trailers of a lot of video games.
 

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Superior Mind said:
zombflux said:
It's true. That's why you lookup "So-and-so Gameplay videos" :)

It's advertising, haven't you ever seen a commercial before?
Yeah but why should this be acceptable? If an ad on TV shows something that isn't the product they're selling they get taken to court. They don't wait for you to Google or YouTube the product to find out whether they're bullshitting you or not.
Coca-Cola commercials glamorize soda, fast food commercials show pictures of food that don't even look half as good in person, and infomercials sell products that a large majority of the time don't work nearly as well as they did on TV.

Game developers aren't saying "Hey this is what it's like when you play our game", they're just glamorizing the general theme and idea of their game. Most people are too ignorant to notice, which is why it keeps happening. Always look up gameplay videos and you'll be fine.
 

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Creating a short action film is not the same as showing a Coca-Cola fueled beach party. I fully realise that it's "just advertising" but I think it crosses the line with certain game trailers.
Like I said, there are people who look at them and make their decision to buy the game based on them. I say they are too far removed from the product to be legitimate advertisments.
 

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Superior Mind said:
Creating a short action film is not the same as showing a Coca-Cola fueled beach party. I fully realise that it's "just advertising" but I think it crosses the line with certain game trailers.
Like I said, there are people who look at them and make their decision to buy the game based on them. I say they are too far removed from the product to be legitimate advertisments.
It's the same idea. Both are saying "this product is this exciting", when obviously it's probably not.
People who buy games based purely on cinematic trailers are too dumb or careless to be felt sorry for anyway.
 

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I feel that the following trailer is rather misrepresentative of the source material...


Now, when you look at this, do you think "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate" (the reality) or "standard hack'n'slash a la Devil May Cry / God of War / Dante's Inferno / etc."?
 

zombflux

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Just a disclaimer: I'm not disagreeing with you, I think it's wrong, but it shouldn't be illegal. People should just know better.
 

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That one Halo 3 "Believe" ad where they have this diorama of a massive battle. It made me believe that Halo 3 will have massive battles like that, and I was sorely disappointed. Taught me not to believe anything other than gameplay videos. =(
 

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Your just noticing now? This kind of this has been going on for ages because enough people alow it. Retards who buy games solely on the trailes keep the sales up; so if they can sell more games with some crappy CGI rather than the game, they will.

Yes it's out of hand.
Yes it should only show the games.
And yes you sould NEVER buy a game solely on the trailer(s).

But as long as people buy just on the CGI trailer(s) they will always be shown.
 

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Furburt said:
The ones that are all just CGI and have very little to do with the game. FINAL FANTASY, WE'RE LOOKIN AT YOUUUUUUU!
heck no, even the FF14 trailer had gameplay shown, but the graphics are so good it looks like an FMV
 

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All the Duke Nukem trailers; probably the most misleading and irrelevant trailers ever primarily because they were from the looks of it completely random as they were obviously not based on anything the studio had been working on....
 

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Superior Mind said:
(A pause to acknowledge that I can't actually make these claims legitimately about The Old Republic but let's just say I'm pretty sure that I'm right.)
Oh, come on, man, they released a 20-minutes walkthrough trailer.
OT: I would have to say that every modern Final Fantasy game is guilty of really misleading trailers.
 

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tk1989 said:
All the Duke Nukem trailers; probably the most misleading and irrelevant trailers ever primarily because they were from the looks of it completely random as they were obviously not based on anything the studio had been working on....
Duke Nukem Trilogy trailer was awesome. Even if it had absolutely no point, it was funny just based on how much nothing it showed to us.

Oh, and the crotch zoom near the end.
 

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It depends. In some cases, this is all we need to see. For instance, I play the Halo games for the story, so something like the live action ODST trailer does pique my interest in the game. Final Fantasy is an even better example: don't even bother showing me gameplay, just convince me it has a good story and I'm there (not that Final Fantasy has to convince me of something like that, but you know).

In the case of The Old Republic, true, it didn't showcase the gameplay. But it was an amazing trailer that speaks even louder than the various interviews: they are taking the Star Wars universe and story seriously. You know there are millions of people who cry foul whenever a Star Wars game doesn't fit in canon or tells a story not fitting for the Star Wars universe: that trailer showed that Bioware will be sure to weave a huge and epic tale through their MMORPG. Besides, for a company like Bioware, I don't doubt the quality of gameplay. Their track record speaks for itself.

Point is, yeah, some idiots fall for it completely, but eventually they will show more gameplay and then we can judge it by that standard. But a trailer like the epic work of CG film that was the Old Republic trailer tells those of us who are really watching a lot of what we want to know.