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Nova Helix

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Can someone please explain to me how certain team ups work? Teams like Justice League and The Avengers always have a huge power difference between the members and I don't get why they are on a team. To make my point Green lantern and Green Arrow team up comic. One of them fights planetary threats and the other shoots pointy sticks; what is the point of teaming up? One hero (might be a great street level hero) just gets lame excuses to use his ability while the powerful hero saves the day. I find this INCREDIBLY boring.
 

NeutralDrow

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Wasn't that Green Lantern/Arrow comic supposed to be really, really good? There was certainly a lot more to it than "fighting criminals" if I remember right, and Oliver Queen had a rather profound impact on the way Hal Jordan worked.

As for the general question...you may as well ask why any superheroes other than Superman and Dr. Strange exist. They're the most powerful, so does that make all the others superfluous?
 

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This seems like a job for Movie Bob, he probably has a whole theroy about it... and that sounds like an episode.
 

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NeutralDrow said:
you may as well ask why any superheroes other than Superman and Dr. Strange exist. They're the most powerful, so does that make all the others superfluous?
No for the following reasons.

-Dr. Strange isn't to put Fisk in his place
-Who's going to leave the fate of the world in the hands of an illegal immigrant?
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Nova Helix

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NeutralDrow said:
Wasn't that Green Lantern/Arrow comic supposed to be really, really good? There was certainly a lot more to it than "fighting criminals" if I remember right, and Oliver Queen had a rather profound impact on the way Hal Jordan worked.

As for the general question...you may as well ask why any superheroes other than Superman and Dr. Strange exist. They're the most powerful, so does that make all the others superfluous?
Yeah it was supposed to be good, thats one of the reasons I'm asking the question.

Different heros have different places where they shine. Superman can fight things like doomsday, while heros like daredevil are great at fighting gangsters and street level threats. But when a hero that can blow out a sun teams up with a blind lawyer it has never set well with me.
 

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NeutralDrow said:
Wasn't that Green Lantern/Arrow comic supposed to be really, really good? There was certainly a lot more to it than "fighting criminals" if I remember right, and Oliver Queen had a rather profound impact on the way Hal Jordan worked.

As for the general question...you may as well ask why any superheroes other than Superman and Dr. Strange exist. They're the most powerful, so does that make all the others superfluous?
No, you may as well ask why those two teamed up with the others in justice league. he didn't say that green arrow, for example, shouldn't exist, just that there is no reason that green lantern would need to team up with him. I tend to agree.
 

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It's like Batman and Superman teaming up...utterly pointless. Superman realistically should be able to kill Batman from just flicking his finger and splattering him on a wall, so how would Batman even stand a CHANCE against Superman's villains who KO Superman by like punching him into the earth or through buildings? In a way it's all just Fanfare, nothing else. Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
 

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Because it often forces the comic readers of (in this case) The Green Lantern and The Green Arrow to buy one comic and therefore vastly increase the profits of the company that made the comic.

It adds variety too, think about it, seeing the similar panels again and again can get kind of boring. *Superman uproots the road of the town and defeats Black Hole-O, the 17th person this week to attempt killing all humanity* It gets awfully dry, awfully fast, so having the skills and the characters mixed up, not fighting the usual enemies and not doing the usual things makes for a really good story without adding any story in the first place. So when you do add story, even if it sucks, no one will care because they are still thinking "Oh my god, that was so epic!"

Lets say you have Superman and Batman team up, as someone said before me "Utterly pointless" this is true but it looks a lot better when Superman comes down a punches one enemy in the face, while the exact same time Batman has gobbed in another enemy's eye, or whatever batman does. It adds variety and makes the comics slightly more bearable to people who try to kid themselves that superman isn't doing the exact same crap as last week.
 

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For this particular team up, I believe it was the developer's keen sense of noticing that both heroes wore green. GENIUS!!!!!
 

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spartan231490 said:
NeutralDrow said:
Wasn't that Green Lantern/Arrow comic supposed to be really, really good? There was certainly a lot more to it than "fighting criminals" if I remember right, and Oliver Queen had a rather profound impact on the way Hal Jordan worked.

As for the general question...you may as well ask why any superheroes other than Superman and Dr. Strange exist. They're the most powerful, so does that make all the others superfluous?
No, you may as well ask why those two teamed up with the others in justice league. he didn't say that green arrow, for example, shouldn't exist, just that there is no reason that green lantern would need to team up with him. I tend to agree.
Because they have entirely different areas of expertise, different methods, different motivations, and the ability to be in different places (hell, Green Lantern isn't even on Earth a lot of the time).
 

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Just because one has a greater power, doesn't mean he will always find the best way to use it. Two heads are better then one, the little guy in the duo may be able to give the big guy ideas etc. Plus what if they come across someone who knows the big guys weakness, but doesn't know the others or whatever, it has its advantages.
 

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Dimensional Vortex said:
Because it often forces the comic readers of (in this case) The Green Lantern and The Green Arrow to buy one comic and therefore vastly increase the profits of the company that made the comic.

It adds variety too, think about it, seeing the similar panels again and again can get kind of boring. *Superman uproots the road of the town and defeats Black Hole-O, the 17th person this week to attempt killing all humanity* It gets awfully dry, awfully fast, so having the skills and the characters mixed up, not fighting the usual enemies and not doing the usual things makes for a really good story without adding any story in the first place. So when you do add story, even if it sucks, no one will care because they are still thinking "Oh my god, that was so epic!"

Lets say you have Superman and Batman team up, as someone said before me "Utterly pointless" this is true but it looks a lot better when Superman comes down a punches one enemy in the face, while the exact same time Batman has gobbed in another enemy's eye, or whatever batman does. It adds variety and makes the comics slightly more bearable to people who try to kid themselves that superman isn't doing the exact same crap as last week.
While the same thing over and over gets boring why does it take a weaker hero to add diversity. It can't be that hard to write an interesting story without teaming up with a different power class. One of my favorite recent comic arcs was Ironman: Worlds most wanted, it didn't take a weaker hero to change the normal story and it was very interesting. This is a perfect video that shows what I think of with mismatched teams (also it has batman and superman which people keep referring to.)

 

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Cable and Deadpool were pretty cool miss-matched heroes, though I guess the shared the same horrible Liefield-ian roots. Plus I guess they were more equal when Nate got depowered.

Still possibly the best superhero buddy comic in a long time.
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
That would be epic! The body count would somewhere around total f**king GENOCIDE! I may be a little bias, as they are two of my favorite characters.
 

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Athol said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
That would be epic! The body count would somewhere around total f**king GENOCIDE! I may be a little bias, as they are two of my favorite characters.
Same here, both are Anit-Heroes and both are trained killers. Doesn't make sense why they would be working together.

Magneto can stop adamantium, but can he stop lead? XD
 

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SteewpidZombie said:
Athol said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
That would be epic! The body count would somewhere around total f**king GENOCIDE! I may be a little bias, as they are two of my favorite characters.
Same here, both are Anit-Heroes and both are trained killers. Doesn't make sense why they would be working together.


Magneto can stop adamantium, but can he stop lead? XD
They did team up, I also think Frank blew Logan's face off and ran him over with a steamroller :D
 

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SquashedFly said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Athol said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
That would be epic! The body count would somewhere around total f**king GENOCIDE! I may be a little bias, as they are two of my favorite characters.
Same here, both are Anit-Heroes and both are trained killers. Doesn't make sense why they would be working together.


Magneto can stop adamantium, but can he stop lead? XD
They did team up, I also think Frank blew Logan's face off and ran him over with a steamroller :D
And thus the Anti-Hero fans begin to gather haha XD
 

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Nova Helix said:
Dimensional Vortex said:
Because it often forces the comic readers of (in this case) The Green Lantern and The Green Arrow to buy one comic and therefore vastly increase the profits of the company that made the comic.

It adds variety too, think about it, seeing the similar panels again and again can get kind of boring. *Superman uproots the road of the town and defeats Black Hole-O, the 17th person this week to attempt killing all humanity* It gets awfully dry, awfully fast, so having the skills and the characters mixed up, not fighting the usual enemies and not doing the usual things makes for a really good story without adding any story in the first place. So when you do add story, even if it sucks, no one will care because they are still thinking "Oh my god, that was so epic!"

Lets say you have Superman and Batman team up, as someone said before me "Utterly pointless" this is true but it looks a lot better when Superman comes down a punches one enemy in the face, while the exact same time Batman has gobbed in another enemy's eye, or whatever batman does. It adds variety and makes the comics slightly more bearable to people who try to kid themselves that superman isn't doing the exact same crap as last week.
While the same thing over and over gets boring why does it take a weaker hero to add diversity. It can't be that hard to write an interesting story without teaming up with a different power class. One of my favorite recent comic arcs was Ironman: Worlds most wanted, it didn't take a weaker hero to change the normal story and it was very interesting. This is a perfect video that shows what I think of with mismatched teams (also it has batman and superman which people keep referring to.)

It's not that adding a weaker hero is needed for diversity, it is that just a hero with a different arsenal of skills and powers. Superman along with Batman is the best contrast, think about it, one uses technology and his money, one uses his inhuman strength and powers, one is dressed in black and grey and is often around at night, Superman is dressed in bright red and blue clothing and is often around at all times. So by this we can see that we get the largest diversity because instead of two Heroes all using special skills and powers we have one using technology and the other using special powers. This keeps a more interesting story without even needing to write one, you already start off with two Heroes with great powers.

Also, they often add weaker and arguably inferior Heroes to already strong and distinguished ones so the new Hero doesn't show up the already distinguished one. So you still have the original stronger hero, but he has a weaker hero accomplice to help him, but really this new hero is just there to show more variety for monotony breaking. This happened with Batman and Robin, it wasn't lasting of course, but you had an acrobatic young man (Robin) who had his own story and fought along side the already distinguished, stronger, more serious Hero (Batman)
 

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SquashedFly said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Athol said:
SteewpidZombie said:
Just imagine the Punisher teaming up with Wolverine, makes no sense, but would still make a badass team.
That would be epic! The body count would somewhere around total f**king GENOCIDE! I may be a little bias, as they are two of my favorite characters.
Same here, both are Anit-Heroes and both are trained killers. Doesn't make sense why they would be working together.


Magneto can stop adamantium, but can he stop lead? XD
They did team up, I also think Frank blew Logan's face off and ran him over with a steamroller :D
Sooo, all he did was REALLY piss Logan off then?
 

Hero in a half shell

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Did anyone else read that comic as "Green Green Lantern Arrow" just saying that would be an awesome comic.

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