Wait, they are hacking into his xbox attempting to figure out who his clanmates are? I wasn't aware that the xbroken stores that information at all. And then microsoft SUSPENDED THEIR PRIVACY POLICY. Clan members are not private information and had they paid some form of attention to their kid's gaming, the parents would surely know a few of them by name. This article sounds like microsoft using somebody elses misery to do things they would never get away with if they weren't "rescueing missing kids".
Missing Teenager's Parents Blame "Online Tournaments"
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granted good idea for punishing the kid HOWEVER judging by the actions of the kid, they didn't punish him on a consistent basis and this was probly a half hearted attempt to enact some punishmentniblik post=7.75163.863437 said:
if they were consistent they would have had different results. 10 to 1 this is what would normally happen
-kid misbehaves
-parents warn him
-kid continues
-parents warn again and threaten
-kid continues
-parents steps up warning and threat
-kid stops
-parents punishes kid
-kid whines
-parents relent
mind you they might have just only threatened or never really given a harsh punishment but they didn't instill a set of consequences for his misactions
they didn't suspend the policy, it is habit for most companies to cooperate with law enforcement and in some cases, such as missing children, the law for them to comply with requests of law enforcementAsehujiko post=7.75163.865825 said:
typically they need warrants to get info of ppl, tho with missing kids those requirements are relaxed, usually a faxed letter on station letterhead will do
You know, I kind of understand where his father is coming from. I really, really doubt that the online community has anything to do with the kid going missing, but I can understand why he would have a problem with his son being in close contact with people that the father knows very little about. The very word "clan" suggests a second family, or at least a deeper bond than just being friends. If the kid thinks his own family is "against him", then it isn't too far fetched to say that he would seek out his close clanmates. Still, not the games fault, not the "online tournaments" fault, etc.
But in this case, it's not necessarily the fathers fault either. He didn't really do anything obviously wrong. I mean, it wouldn't have been too difficult to come in and watch his son play games, talked to him about the tournament scene, etc, but at some point, the blame game becomes useless. It's just a sad situation, and people need to realize that sometimes there is no person at fault. Stuff just happens.
But in this case, it's not necessarily the fathers fault either. He didn't really do anything obviously wrong. I mean, it wouldn't have been too difficult to come in and watch his son play games, talked to him about the tournament scene, etc, but at some point, the blame game becomes useless. It's just a sad situation, and people need to realize that sometimes there is no person at fault. Stuff just happens.
Looking into the artical this isnt one of those idiot-parents-blame-game things like when thet guy shot himself in the head after playing halo - The dad at least seems to have a good idea of what was going on, especially in understanding why the kid ran away. Hell you cant even blame them for being THAT bad a parent - they saw their kid was developing an unhealthy obsession and tried to fix things, then shit happened. Looking across my friends list on xbox live i can name plenty of people where COD4 has eaten their lives (and im hardly the most sociable of people) and it wouldnt surprise me if any of them ran away when going cold turkey.buy teh haloz said:
This sort of mainsrteam-yet-obsessive gaming is a fairly new thing, new parenting ideas havnt spead to cope yet, this isnt their fault, nor the games, nor the kid, its just a crappy situation thats arose and got even crappier with his likely adbuction.
Poor guy... Now to mourn Joe the plumber..
Sure it's sad that the kid is probably dead. However, this kid is hardly the sharpest nail in the shed. They took his games away and, instead of acting like a normal person and whining for a while then getting over it, he ran away and is causing a huge ordeal for his parents and put his own life in danger. I know I had a little more sense when I was 11.
Hopefully they will find him, and when they do they will not give him his Xbox back.
Hopefully they will find him, and when they do they will not give him his Xbox back.
They tried that; the kid was good at breaking his gaming curfew. (I suspect that the parents weren't too knowledgeable about how to use the parental controls for locking out the console... though I've never had cause to examine them and I don't know how easy it'd be for someone to defeat them, so I might not be giving them enough credit either.)sv93 said:
I seriously don't think it's the parents' fault here; they tried, and tried hard, but what they tried just didn't work.
-- Steve
At least the parents tried to help the kid, with some of the stories the parents only notice something Is wrong when their child disappears. They blamed the tournaments, which is kinda understandable as the mentality of some of those can be brutal, and way overly competitive, maybe enough for him to feel betrayed and as if he was betraying his clan when he was refused his ability to play. Hope he's alright and is found safe.
QFT. And people, he's not 11, he's 15. At 15, you should be sensible enough to not run away from home because your parents were responsible. I'm hardly mature, and when I was 13, I lost my PS2 because of bad grades. Shockingly, I just worked my ass off to get it back. The idea of running away never even crossed my mind, much less get acted upon.Reaperman Wompa said:
Cynicism on my part leads me to two options:
- He got abducted after running away.
- He died (murder or accident) and the parents are trying to cover it up (wouldn't be the first time this happened).
I don't believe for one minute that he ran away just to play games and then not return/leave some message within a few days max.
- He got abducted after running away.
- He died (murder or accident) and the parents are trying to cover it up (wouldn't be the first time this happened).
I don't believe for one minute that he ran away just to play games and then not return/leave some message within a few days max.
I read the article just recently in the paper and i wasn't so much disappointed with the parents but the author. The whole thing led us to believe the kids nothing but a gamer, and he had no other hobbies, friends, or qualities outside of that. Hell, underneath the picture beside the article, the caption was, "loved Xbox." WTF?
The parents are actually right in this case, not about "online tournaments" but they are just right in a moral sense. The father realized his mistake in dealing with his son. When a parent neglects a child, they turn to other means to gratify themselves, and socialize. And I truly think the parents realize this now.buy teh haloz said:
I want this kid back with his parents where he belongs, and I want the parents to say "We understand you like this game, and we don't want you to stop altogether, but you have other things in life waiting for you." What these parents need is a better understanding of the online community in general, and professional gaming. I don't view these parents as stubborn cunts, they've proven that when they admitted they were wrong in some places.
now that you mention it that way, I look at this situation with a different light. I still think they should have realized this problem earlier and sat him down at an earlier time. I had a similar scenario when I was younger and had discovered the Super Nintendo, but my parents at least gave it to me when I had a weekend, or a holiday. They were trying to prevent their son from becoming a social recluse. Really, I respect that, but I think they should have done it a bit sooner. The problem developed into something even worse, and as a result, the kids dead.SuperFriendBFG said:
I notice that no one mentioned that his dad said that he understood that the tournaments became his identity, and that when he took away his Xbox, he took away his son's identity. It's disgraceful to blame the parents. You think kids pay attention to their parents? They don't. I'm 18 and was thus a "kid" just a year ago, so I can accurately say that kids don't think about their parents very much. If they have a problem with something, they'll usually see a teacher, that's just how it is. Just one year ago I was a "kid" and I can assure you that if I did something stupid it would not be because of bad parenting, it would be because of the idiots around me at my boarding school. You simply can't blame parents because when you are a teenager (and you don't stop being a teenager at 18, 18 has no biological significance) they aren't really a part of your life anymore. It seems like they just get in the way of your life, and you want to get away from them.