Miyamoto Is Developers' Hero

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Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
 

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Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
The reason you are here today talking about video games its cause there was this japanese guy, more than 20 years ago created great games that made gaming a reliable industry. Shigeru Miyamoto is the Father of Modern Gaming.And he keeps re-inventing himself after all those years.

The same thing can't be said for Carmack that hasn't done anything "good" since Quake 2.
 

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Jonathan Blow is number 10? Wha...
That's a piss take. A developer with one successful game ahead of people like Kojima, Yu Suzuki, Yasumi Matsuno, Garriot, Michel Ancel, Shafer...*litany of names slowly fades out*
I can actually see why he's on the list. He's basically the bedroom coder of this generation. Proof of what one guy without any company backing can do in an industry where games are usually made with dozens of people.

Miyamoto has a lot of the same things going for him. Proof of the power one man can have over an entire industry.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
The reason you are here today talking about video games its cause there was this japanese guy, more than 20 years ago created great games that made gaming a reliable industry. Shigeru Miyamoto is the Father of Modern Gaming.And he keeps re-inventing himself after all those years.

The same thing can't be said for Carmack that hasn't done anything "good" since Quake 2.
Quit the fanboyish overcapitalization. So far i haven't seen anything that says that Miyamoto does anything about his games at all other then stockbroking his way to richness without touching games at all except when demonstrating them at e3. Your ignorance also shows by forgetting things like z-fail stencil shadows and megatexture, things Carmack coded on his own, and not have it done by a huge team of underlings that then putting an "approved" stamp on it and saying "put it in the next mario/zelda/metroid".
 

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Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
The reason you are here today talking about video games its cause there was this japanese guy, more than 20 years ago created great games that made gaming a reliable industry. Shigeru Miyamoto is the Father of Modern Gaming.And he keeps re-inventing himself after all those years.

The same thing can't be said for Carmack that hasn't done anything "good" since Quake 2.
Quit the fanboyish overcapitalization. So far i haven't seen anything that says that Miyamoto does anything about his games at all other then stockbroking his way to richness without touching games at all except when demonstrating them at e3. Your ignorance also shows by forgetting things like z-fail stencil shadows and megatexture, things Carmack coded on his own, and not have it done by a huge team of underlings that then putting an "approved" stamp on it and saying "put it in the next mario/zelda/metroid".
Is Carmack considered the Father of Modern gaming? No.

End of Discussion. Shigeru Miyamoto is the greatest developer in gaming and even Carmack will admit it.
 

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Woe Is You said:
I can actually see why he's on the list. He's basically the bedroom coder of this generation. Proof of what one guy without any company backing can do in an industry where usually made with dozens of people.
When you put it like that, I can see the appeal. Being a rich reclusive auteur, developing games at your own pace is surely what every game dev aspires to be.

oliveira8 said:
End of Discussion. Shigeru Miyamoto is the greatest developer in gaming and even Carmack will admit it.
Was, maybe, although he's in more of an executive role now apparently. Hasn't stopped his little experiments becoming bestsellers. He's certainly the most profitable.
 

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Everyone loves miyamoto i bet there's one developer out there that can say one bad thing about him and he has made some great bounds for the video game industry so it's natural for developers to feel that way.
 

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curlycrouton said:
I'm glad Sid Meier's there, although I reckon he should be top of the list. He's a veritable genius.
In concurrence.

Also what has the Zelda series done that's innovative, they are [b/]great[/b] games but nothing that was revolutionary?
I believe they were the first cartridges to have a "save" feature through use of a battery.
 

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I can't believe that one guy actually called him "Miyamoto-san". What a weeabo Japanophile dickweed.
I'm sorry, but I had to lol at this post. You win an internet for making me shoot milk out of my nose. XD

Anyway, I'm not surprised that Miyamoto is the best known developer among these devs. I remember the old days of Super Nintendoland, when I was in the Dark World, saving the seven maidens from the clutches of Agahnim and Ganon. Whenever I played that game, I always felt like I should kiss Mister Miyamoto's shoes for such a wonderful game.

And then later Ocarina of Time came out. And I was in love all over again. Just the thought of Miyamoto helping to make this game series and MORE really does make him the pinnacle of awesome.

I even loved the Wind Waker! Even in the later years of the Gamecube, Miyamoto had it going on. This is why it pains me to see Nintendo crapping over his genius with unoriginal shovelware and cheap knockoff games that don't even deserve the pleasure of being in the same sentence as the classic games. If Miyamoto can redeem his game series with the new Zelda and Metroid, then I just might have some restored faith.

Not Mario, though. He's been dead to me.
 

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Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
The reason you are here today talking about video games its cause there was this japanese guy, more than 20 years ago created great games that made gaming a reliable industry. Shigeru Miyamoto is the Father of Modern Gaming.And he keeps re-inventing himself after all those years.

The same thing can't be said for Carmack that hasn't done anything "good" since Quake 2.
Quit the fanboyish overcapitalization. So far i haven't seen anything that says that Miyamoto does anything about his games at all other then stockbroking his way to richness without touching games at all except when demonstrating them at e3. Your ignorance also shows by forgetting things like z-fail stencil shadows and megatexture, things Carmack coded on his own, and not have it done by a huge team of underlings that then putting an "approved" stamp on it and saying "put it in the next mario/zelda/metroid".
You are aware that Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong (not Metroid, that was someone else) were his personal brain-children, right? As in, he personally created the originals and has been heavily involved in their successors.
 

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People have to also recognize that one reason Miyamoto is popular isn't because of what he did, but what he's still doing. Miyamoto is the Japanese Midas. Pikmin, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and other games I have never played managed to be incredibly popular. They might be games many of us don't like, but they help demonstrate the man's originality.

Pendragon9 said:
Not Mario, though. He's been dead to me.
But Miyamoto doesn't make Metroid games. He didn't create the series. All he did was push Metroid Prime on the right track.

He's also had a less active development in more recent hardcore games, but he was actively involved in SMG, if I'm not mistaken, and that was awesome.
 

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Asehujiko said:
oliveira8 said:
Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Yes he does...Shigeru made what is the video game industry today.
By doing what exactly? All i can find about him the the fact that he came up with the concept of nintendogs and stamping on the homebrew community.
He is the reason why we have video games consoles now . Without him, we wouldn't be gamers. We'd be uhh....Jehovah Witnesses.
 

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Darkrai said:
He is the reason why we have video games. Nintendo,SEGA,SONY,PC,Xbox. Without him, we wouldn't be gamers. We'd be uhh....Jehovah Witnesses.
Uhhh... not quite. There were video games around before Nintendo was around, games after the great video game crash too if you dig around. Part of the reason why something like the VIC-20 or the C64 thrived was because, though they were sold as general use computers, everyone who got one got it for games.
 

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Woe Is You said:
Darkrai said:
He is the reason why we have video games. Nintendo,SEGA,SONY,PC,Xbox. Without him, we wouldn't be gamers. We'd be uhh....Jehovah Witnesses.
Uhhh... not quite. There were video games around before Nintendo was around, games after the great video game crash too if you dig around. Part of the reason why something like the VIC-20 or the C64 thrived was because, though it was sold as a general use computers, everyone got one for games.
Should have said "now" but you are right.
 

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Darkrai said:
Should have said "now" but you are right.
Well, I'd still say that the NES and the console gamespace in general back in the late 80s to the late 90s was a completely different thing from computer games (PC, Amiga, C64, Amstrad...). That they've converged like this is a really recent phenomenon.

Miyamoto is a man with a huge influence but we'd still have games even if he and Gunpei Yokoi weren't around back then.
 

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MIYAMOTO! WE LOOOOOOVE YOOOOOU!

In a totally platonic fashion, of course.
 

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I would say he is my favourite developer, even if he doesn't develop that much anymore. He came up with my favourite franchises, and continues to produce them these days. Definitely should be on the top of the list imo.
 

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I get so fed up when the game industry leaves out Gunpei Yokoi just because he's deceased.
Nintendo is flourishing today because of the late Yokoi's philosophy "Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology". The fact Nintendo portables and Wii is so successful was no accident.

I love Mr.Miyamoto just as much. But Gunpei Yokoi was Mr. Miyamoto's mentor.

In Memory of Toy & Game Inventor Gunpei Yokoi-san 1941 - 1997:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anyTBA46eyY
 

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Asehujiko said:
Does that guy do anything at all other then heading press conferences and receiving a lot of cash? Carmack should have been first for his actual achievements. There aren't many directors who actually outperform their employees when it comes to coding things.
Carmarck is in the Top 30s of developers.