MLB 11: The Show Includes Single-Button Play for Disabled Gamers

Something Amyss

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Unrulyhandbag said:
Just don't patronise them with special games or ordinary games with the fun ripped out on their behalf.
But....This is what the guy and his association wanted. How can you argue either is the case here?
 

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Thank god this series uses proper year numbering!

MLB '11...in '11!

And the disabled mode is nice, too.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Unrulyhandbag said:
Just don't patronise them with special games or ordinary games with the fun ripped out on their behalf.
But....This is what the guy and his association wanted. How can you argue either is the case here?
People often want things, sometimes it turns out they wanted something different.

The only good thing I can see here is that a mainstream game has made concessions to a disability other than colour blindness (which they quite often fail to manage even when they bother).
I don't think it will enough for disabled gamers in the long run; in the short term there's the kick of playing a massive selling game series that they couldn't have played before but after and hour or two will it be a fulfilling experience?.
Making games easier is the wrong approach; we need to make them more accessible in other ways, if it's really all that can be done for now then very well but those players are still alienated from the full game.

on top of that bear in mind that this isn't a game option or special mode, it's a difficulty setting.
Do you want to play in:

Professional mode

normal mode

easy mode

Beginner mode

"Association for Disabled Virtual Athletes" mode
see what a good light it paints of the disabled gamer? you can almost hear the school kids now "I bet you play MLB on retard mode!"
 

Something Amyss

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Unrulyhandbag said:
People often want things, sometimes it turns out they wanted something different.
That's a total goalpost shift. You argued they shouldn't be patronised. They're not being patronised, they're getting something they asked for, something both sides were in favour of.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Unrulyhandbag said:
People often want things, sometimes it turns out they wanted something different.
That's a total goalpost shift. You argued they shouldn't be patronised. They're not being patronised, they're getting something they asked for, something both sides were in favour of.
Yes it was a shift.
My point is about the long term and if it even constitutes a game. Whether it's wanted by either party today is beside the point; also the article doesn't state if the Association for Disabled Virtual Athletes was involved in the process simply that it exists, it's founder is in the last game game and the new mode is inspired by it.

Not all disabled people are represented by a single association ( could you find detail outside the original article about this group? I failed).

It should also be noted that CP patients are the most affected group when it comes to movement problems and the sufferer of cerebral palsy that inspired this was capable of playing the game in it's 2008 form. He in fact praised the games and the nature of simulacra overall. So is this solution really a solution at all?

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/hans-smith-cerebral-palsy-playstation-lets-play-baseball/story?id=10114826
 

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Unrulyhandbag said:
see what a good light it paints of the disabled gamer? you can almost hear the school kids now "I bet you play MLB on retard mode!"
Are you saying that I would care of even take note of an insult of the form "you suck at video games" ever? Because Even when I was a child, I didn't care.
 

Something Amyss

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Unrulyhandbag said:
Not all disabled people are represented by a single association ( could you find detail outside the original article about this group? I failed).
Of course not. Who's claiming otherwise?

But as for the ties:

"Smith gets that chance in "MLB 11: The Show" as, thanks to the gamer's growing ties with Sony's development team, a new difficulty level has been added to the franchise that will make it possible for more gamers with disabilities to get their cracks at the plate against diamond kings like Tim Lincecum and Cliff Lee."

From one of the very links in the original article posted here. Not ambiguous.

It was rather presumptuous to tell others what will limit their enjoyment. That's effectively what your goalpost shift did.
 

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MLB 11: The Show comes out on March 8 for the PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and PSP.

Really? Wow, thats gotta be the first new game the PS2 has got in a while.

OT: This is really nice, and I like the way The Show is... progressing? would that be the best word for it? Anyway, I think its a good thing, and makes a nice precedent so other games/companies can start to make the same stride and be physically handicapped friendly.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Unrulyhandbag said:
see what a good light it paints of the disabled gamer? you can almost hear the school kids now "I bet you play MLB on retard mode!"
Are you saying that I would care of even take note of an insult of the form "you suck at video games" ever? Because Even when I was a child, I didn't care.
hardly.