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Silvanus

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The only mmo that I'm casually watching on youtube is final fantasy 14. It looks good and is the only recnt final fantasy that has my attention. I do hope their next mmo will greatly improve on what they have.
Meanwhile, I sincerely hope they don't make another MMO at all. They've got 2 running at the same time, and still maintain ongoing subscription fees for both. Which means people like me, who're invested in the series and want to play all of the main entries at least, would have to either miss out 2 of the main series entries or briefly pay a subscription fee above and beyond the price of entry.
 

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Meanwhile, I sincerely hope they don't make another MMO at all. They've got 2 running at the same time, and still maintain ongoing subscription fees for both. Which means people like me, who're invested in the series and want to play all of the main entries at least, would have to either miss out 2 of the main series entries or briefly pay a subscription fee above and beyond the price of entry.
That doesn't sound fun.
 

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Invested in Classic WOW at the moment to move beyond it.
 

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Meanwhile, I sincerely hope they don't make another MMO at all. They've got 2 running at the same time, and still maintain ongoing subscription fees for both. Which means people like me, who're invested in the series and want to play all of the main entries at least, would have to either miss out 2 of the main series entries or briefly pay a subscription fee above and beyond the price of entry.
Considering FFXIV is just about the best Final Fantasy of the past 20 years... Too bad for you. Especially as it seems that it's reaching the final point of its story with the next expansion, which will maybe lead to another MMO.

As long as they keep rocking it as well as they have with Shadowbringers, i don't care.
 

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Considering FFXIV is just about the best Final Fantasy of the past 20 years... Too bad for you. Especially as it seems that it's reaching the final point of its story with the next expansion, which will maybe lead to another MMO.

As long as they keep rocking it as well as they have with Shadowbringers, i don't care.
That's fine, but an MMO is an enormous and ongoing timesink. I already have one MMO; ain't noone got time for more than one, regardless of whether it's fantastic or not. It's not feasible given the amount of commitment and time each one requires.

Particularly if it's charging you for the privilege to keep accessing the product you've bought.
 

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That's fine, but an MMO is an enormous and ongoing timesink. I already have one MMO; ain't noone got time for more than one, regardless of whether it's fantastic or not. It's not feasible given the amount of commitment and time each one requires.

Particularly if it's charging you for the privilege to keep accessing the product you've bought.
As far as time sinks go, FFXIV has respected my time and offered me actual content much, much better than just about any other MMO right now. Though there, there's very little reason to do your typical generic side quests - levelling has been structured so that you level along with the story. You can get to max level just doing main quests and main story scenarios. Besides some early hurdles during ARR, the main story quests have more than decent production values, being full of well voiced cutscenes and keeping the plot moving. The main story does take its time, yes, but at least it respects it enough to be both engaging, entertaining and well written. As for the side content, I cannot say it's very time consuming. Side faction daily quests, of which you can do a total of 12 per day, can be finished within 15 minutes. The main dungeon roulettes take about one and a half at most (*if you don't do the main scenario one, which doesn't give that much if you're not levelling a class anyway). As Yoshida -the producer- said, the mission statement isn't that the content is numerous enough so as to require multiple months of grinding to finish it, but rather good enough so that the playerbase is loyal enough to resubscribe when the new content gets released. He dislikes wasting people's time.

Which is what I've been doing. I'm going to resubscribe for a month to do the next patch's content, get that finished and wait for the next one.
 

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As far as time sinks go, FFXIV has respected my time and offered me actual content much, much better than just about any other MMO right now. Though there, there's very little reason to do your typical generic side quests - levelling has been structured so that you level along with the story. You can get to max level just doing main quests and main story scenarios. Besides some early hurdles during ARR, the main story quests have more than decent production values, being full of well voiced cutscenes and keeping the plot moving. The main story does take its time, yes, but at least it respects it enough to be both engaging, entertaining and well written. As for the side content, I cannot say it's very time consuming. Side faction daily quests, of which you can do a total of 12 per day, can be finished within 15 minutes. The main dungeon roulettes take about one and a half at most (*if you don't do the main scenario one, which doesn't give that much if you're not levelling a class anyway). As Yoshida -the producer- said, the mission statement isn't that the content is numerous enough so as to require multiple months of grinding to finish it, but rather good enough so that the playerbase is loyal enough to resubscribe when the new content gets released. He dislikes wasting people's time.

Which is what I've been doing. I'm going to resubscribe for a month to do the next patch's content, get that finished and wait for the next one.
I'm not saying it's a waste of time, or that it's not time well spent for the subscribers; I'm saying that since I already have an MMO, I don't have the time to invest. And that's a shame for me, because I'd have liked to play every mainline FF game.

Unless I subscribe, finish the main story just for the sake of completionism, and then quit, which is obviously not the intended experience with an MMO.