I would be kind of annoyed about this, except that the mod looks like attention seeking garbage.I find it hard to defend people who aren't really trying to accomplish anything beyond being attacked.
ModDB Shuts Down School Shooter Mod
- Thread starter Greg Tito
- Start date
Recommended Videos
There is NO expression of artistic freedom in this. Read the guy's interview. He's not an artist.chemicalreaper said:
OT: This is how it should be.
At first I was going to say it was a shame that they gave into the demands of people like Jack Thompson, even if the game is horrid, but after hearing from the game's creator, I have to approve of what ModDB did. I like free speech and all, but sometimes there needs to be a line.
While I don't like that Loony Thompson was the one to instigate this given that he has no clue where half the media he attacks comes from.
I agree the mod is in highly poor taste. But then I disagree with ALOT of things I'm just too lazy to march my personal army (see: a dachshund and Pokemon figurine collection) upon the hapless souls who craft objects of my ire.
It has the right to exist, but if ModDB doesn't want that rep I don't effing blame them. Take that crap off your listings pronto.
I agree the mod is in highly poor taste. But then I disagree with ALOT of things I'm just too lazy to march my personal army (see: a dachshund and Pokemon figurine collection) upon the hapless souls who craft objects of my ire.
It has the right to exist, but if ModDB doesn't want that rep I don't effing blame them. Take that crap off your listings pronto.
Always a but isn't there? We're all for freedom of expression. But. An oxymoron that always bothered me that.
Still, hadn't had plans to play the thing anyway, still feels that for all the times games like GTA, Mortal Kombat, Postal et al. are defended it comes off as people sitting on a scale with regards to what they're willing to allow with fiction, replete with points at which they think things have gone too far.
I'm not expecting people to defend the content, just that they stick to their principles (if indeed they claim freedom of speech or expression as one of those), and yes, that means taking the shit with the gold. What you feel comfortable with and what makes you want to vomit. And again, you are under no obligation to view on consume any material with which you find offensive.
Still, hadn't had plans to play the thing anyway, still feels that for all the times games like GTA, Mortal Kombat, Postal et al. are defended it comes off as people sitting on a scale with regards to what they're willing to allow with fiction, replete with points at which they think things have gone too far.
I'm not expecting people to defend the content, just that they stick to their principles (if indeed they claim freedom of speech or expression as one of those), and yes, that means taking the shit with the gold. What you feel comfortable with and what makes you want to vomit. And again, you are under no obligation to view on consume any material with which you find offensive.
Hey, no one is saying this game can't be made... but it is pretty obvious that he is going to have trouble finding an engine, a publisher, financiers and such... People don't want to be a part of this, and as much as it is his right to make it, it is their right to say "I don't want ANYTHING to do with this."
So by all means, bro, go ahead and make your game. But instead of using other peoples' work to create a mod, now you need to build the game yourself. OH HOW TRAGIC.
Good luck finding support for something like this.
So by all means, bro, go ahead and make your game. But instead of using other peoples' work to create a mod, now you need to build the game yourself. OH HOW TRAGIC.
Good luck finding support for something like this.
While I don't like that Loony Thompson was the one to instigate this given that he has no clue where half the media he attacks comes from.
I agree the mod is in highly poor taste. But then I disagree with ALOT of things I'm just too lazy to march my personal army (see: a dachshund and Pokemon figurine collection) upon the hapless souls who craft objects of my ire.
It has the right to exist, but if ModDB doesn't want that rep I don't effing blame them. Take that crap off your listings pronto.
I agree the mod is in highly poor taste. But then I disagree with ALOT of things I'm just too lazy to march my personal army (see: a dachshund and Pokemon figurine collection) upon the hapless souls who craft objects of my ire.
It has the right to exist, but if ModDB doesn't want that rep I don't effing blame them. Take that crap off your listings pronto.
Yay, robbing people of the chance to see and evaluate the thing for themselves, that's how to tell ignorant banhappy offended hysterics to respect plurality of opinion!
...not that it'll hurt the thing. By the looks of it controversy is pretty much the only thing it's got going for it, and like other similarly crude games such as Rapelay, it'll only take off after the banhappy offended crowd provided it with invaluable marketing.
So congratulations to the hapless puritans for doing just the exact opposite of what they want, by spreading knowledge of and interest in this previously utterly insignificant game far and wide.
...not that it'll hurt the thing. By the looks of it controversy is pretty much the only thing it's got going for it, and like other similarly crude games such as Rapelay, it'll only take off after the banhappy offended crowd provided it with invaluable marketing.
So congratulations to the hapless puritans for doing just the exact opposite of what they want, by spreading knowledge of and interest in this previously utterly insignificant game far and wide.
This isn't just a small controversy. This is something that no one should want to see. It's not just "this is in bad taste because it's a game", it's something that would be in bad taste in any medium.
I wouldn't want to watch a movie where some guy went on a shooting rampage in a school. I wouldn't even want to read a book about it or look at a painting of it. This isn't freedom of artistic expression, this is just completely crossing the line.
As gamers, we stand up for our medium when a game is harassed because of the medium it is. For example, when a war game is trying to portray a very specific battle with very specific people. In a movie, it would be acceptable, but in a game it would be controversial. This is where we stand up for games. But if it's something that no one would ever want to see in any situation EVER, then it's crossed the line.
I wouldn't want to watch a movie where some guy went on a shooting rampage in a school. I wouldn't even want to read a book about it or look at a painting of it. This isn't freedom of artistic expression, this is just completely crossing the line.
As gamers, we stand up for our medium when a game is harassed because of the medium it is. For example, when a war game is trying to portray a very specific battle with very specific people. In a movie, it would be acceptable, but in a game it would be controversial. This is where we stand up for games. But if it's something that no one would ever want to see in any situation EVER, then it's crossed the line.
Also don't forget that ModDB is NOT at the beck and call of 1 modder and must look at the interests of the majority who release content on their site. Also lawless squirrel, how can you claim if you didn't know any back story this would be a survival horror? The UNARMED, NON-AGGRESSIVE students flee at the sight of you and NEVER attack no matter how many you gun down. The entire mod is in poor taste and the developer is not doing this to expand the medium but as a slap in the face to people everywhere.
He probably took all the credit for it being taken down and is now taking paypal donations for his humanitarian efforts.KeyMaster45 said:
The mod being taken down is good, but the fact that Jack Thompson will now believe he was right is bad.
Why not let the fact that it is kind of retarded and wasn't any good take care of itself instead of letting someone like Jake Thompson think he has any power?
The man is a psycho. I cannot understand anyone who tries to defend this garbage at this point.Greg Tito said:
Sure, he's allowed to make it, but I'm equally allowed to call it the scummy dregs of "gaming" (I can't really bring myself to call this trash a game) and vocalize my opinion that this mod should never have been conceptualized or developed, and hope it will never be released.
"We believe in the right to free speech, but we're going to go out of our way to stop them from saying this."
Above: Logic.
(For the record, I personally found the game to be interesting, but ultimately tasteless. I in no way was a "supporter" of it, but it still had the right to be made).
Above: Logic.
(For the record, I personally found the game to be interesting, but ultimately tasteless. I in no way was a "supporter" of it, but it still had the right to be made).
Am I the only one who wasn't offended by this? I mean, I couldn't even tell the game was a school-shooter-sim(or whatever you call it) after I saw the video. It was just a guy shooting NPC's from Half-Life 2 until some Combine came in and shot him. Maybe he changed it after the video, but come on. This is just false controversy.
Well if the Author really wants this mod to be played he can hosted himself 
ModDB can take this off the their site if they please. Its not like they are obligated to host any and all mods out there. (though i guess their name sake would make more sense doing so lol)
ModDB can take this off the their site if they please. Its not like they are obligated to host any and all mods out there. (though i guess their name sake would make more sense doing so lol)