Modding single player Mass Effect 3 bans you from Origin

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Source: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/344/index/9917845/2#10648995

Previously I didn't care about Origin, it just seemed like Steam but slightly worse. However after this I can't endorse it's use to anyone.

Disgusting behaviour from EA, they truly are ruining the industry.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Sorry is single player that hard for you?

Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?

If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.

It's easy enough.

Mods generally add content or fix bugs - there's not much point in a mod to adjust the difficulty down in an easy game that has two different kinds of easy mode.

 

[alrekr]

@Lagao not all mods are "cheats" some are aimed at adding content. For example there was a mod for ME2 that added more gear to wear.

 

[endtherapture]

Sorry is single player that hard for you?

Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?

If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.

It's easy enough.

Modding the game does not equal cheating - it could be any amount of mods - texture mods, changing files to unlock better AA or make the game run smoother.

 

[scorptatious]

Isn't it possible the mod the console versions as well? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[endtherapture]

I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.

So now as well as this whole artistic integrity shit, modding a game is now a "betrayal of trust" to the developers?

What ridiculous bullshit.

 

[alrekr]

I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.

Your "trollin" right...right...oh god your being serious.

How is it a "betrayal of trust" in no way has the mod affected online and thus other players. CounterStrike, Team Fortress, Killing Floor all games that began as mods, heck Minecraft started as an Infiminer mod and later expanded into its current form.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Sorry is single player that hard for you?

Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?

If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.

It's easy enough.

Most of the mods for Mass Effect are texture fixes because of how low res and shitty looking some of the uniforms are. If that's considered cheating then I'd hate to see how you'd react to a god mode hack.

 

[Fappy]

This is ludicrous. I am sorry but when I purchase a product from someone I expect to be able to do with it what I will within the confines of the law. EA can kindly go to hell.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Would like more info on what the mod in question was purported to do. On the face of it, it seems kind of ludicrously draconian. But then, it is EA.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Uhh were is the problem in this?

-The game belongs to EA/Bioware
-They have the right to say no modding SP


Again, where is the problem?

 

[Neverhoodian]

Sorry is single player that hard for you?

Do you need someone to hold your hand or make you invincible?

If you need to mod the game in anyway, I laugh at you.

It's easy enough.

I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.

Not all mods are simple "win everything" hacks, you know. Counter-Strike began as a mod. Team Fortress began as a mod. Killing Floor began as a mod. All of these went on to be commercially successful standalone titles due to their popularity. Let's not forget all the awesome Skyrim mods, either:

Killing mod support like this kills creativity and shuts the door for tons of potentially awesome user created content (like an alternate ending, perhaps?).

 

[wintercoat]

I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.

You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.

 

[Kahunaburger]

I think they have they have the right to do that. Tampering with their game is a betrayal of trust... Unless they actively encourage it to the point of releasing a mod pack like Valve or Skyrim.

Yeah, how dare those players use their creativity and programming skills to create content of their own! Everybody knows that creativity is the sole purview of corporations! The entitlement!

 

[SajuukKhar]

You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.

Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.

 

[endtherapture]

You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.

Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.

Are EULA's even legally binding in theory?

 

[Fappy]

You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.

Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.

I didn't buy the game on Origin (360 version here) but unless they made you sign a EULA BEFORE you purchased the product they have no right to do this, but then again there is some shady legal stuff behind Origin anyway. Its best to avoid it all together if you want to buy video games as actual products instead of renting them for an undisclosed amount of time.

 

[Kahunaburger]

You have every right to modify any and all files you download. Being banned for modding Coalesced.bin is ludicrous. Especially when you consider that most do so to tweak performance, such as changing the FoV.

Not unless the EULA says you can, or the developers say that you can regardless of the EULA.

Are EULA's even legally binding in theory?

Not really. And I've never heard of a case where somebody was taken to court over installing better textures.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Are EULA's even legally binding in theory?

The validity of EULAs has been held up in several trials, while it has also been deemed not so in several others.

The legal status of EULAs in America is "legally binding unless you can win that specific case in court, and even then it only really applies to YOU specifically"

Until the supreme court rules one way or the other its in limbo with the see-saw leaning in the developers favor.

There are other uses of "contracts of adhesion" that are 100% legal in America.

 

[tendaji]

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You signed this when you played the game, so there is nothing wrong with them banning you for breaking the EULA.

Also in the first paragraph

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