Modern Day Assassin's Creed: Can it Be Done?

[Booze Zombie]

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Also, I have a feeling Patton wasn't being depicted as a Templar. Remember, Ezio uses the piece of eden. He's an Assassin. Hitler would more likely be a Templar, simply because he sought total control. He was a dictator.

True, but the assassin's never seem to take power with the apple, but maintain balance and try to destroy the templars in secret, so it makes sense that there are no picture of assassins with apples.

 

[whosTHEzomb]

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Also, I have a feeling Patton wasn't being depicted as a Templar. Remember, Ezio uses the piece of eden. He's an Assassin. Hitler would more likely be a Templar, simply because he sought total control. He was a dictator.

True, but the assassin's never seem to take power with the apple, but maintain balance and try to destroy the templars in secret, so it makes sense that there are no picture of assassins with apples.

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If you remember from one of the glyphs, Hitler was killed by an assassin as well. I think that if it were in a WWII setting, you wouldn't be on either side since the game seems to point out that the war itself was just for control over the people, not neccessarily a war of the Allies versus the Axis.

 

[Tears of Blood]

True, but the assassin's never seem to take power with the apple, but maintain balance and try to destroy the templars in secret, so it makes sense that there are no picture of assassins with apples.

Huh.

News:

I dunno' if this is reliable, probably is, or if it's old, but...

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2009/06/10/assassins-creed-3-will-see-desmond-become-the-ultimate-assassin.htm

I really hope this comes into fruition properly, then.

 

[Ironic]

Check out splinter cell conviction, I think that would be modern day AC gameplay.

Agreed. Splinter Cell Conviction is the way to go.

Depends what you mean by modern really.

I think that the next AC should be set in 1800's London, it'd make a good setting for roof running, the occasional gun and bladed weapons would still be effective, as would blending in.

 

[Carnagath]

You can't shoot what you can't see... Also, if you noticed in the ending of AC2,

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the modern-day templars actually were using some sort of...was it swords? pipes? melee weapons anyway. There were no guns

 

[cainx10a]

It will be prototype-esque. With a little bit of Matrix thrown in for good measure.

 

[Woodsey]

It'll be how it is now, except, yano, set today. You can still have the crowd dynamic and that, and Desmond will just have a blade hidden beneath his hoodie sleeve.

Let's face it, if we're not going to be assassinating people as him (at least some of the time) then what the fuck will we do as him next?

Desmond will be the one who decides what happens in all of this. Why do you think

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Minerva used Ezio to speak to Desmond?

The shit is going to hit the fan. And I can't wait.

 

[whosTHEzomb]

Ubisoft has already said it's going to be a trilogy anyways so I'd imagine it HAS to be all about Desmond with diving into the Animus maybe a side story/side quest.

 

[Tears of Blood]

You can't shoot what you can't see... Also, if you noticed in the ending of AC2,

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the modern-day templars actually were using some sort of...was it swords? pipes? melee weapons anyway. There were no guns

Nightsticks.

Or, a baton, rather: http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/asp/images/asp52611.jpg

It will be prototype-esque.

Dear god, I hope not.

 

[James Cassidy]

No.

Alright. Some people really need to actually play AC instead of assuming it's a stealth game 'cause it has the word "Assassin" in it somewhere.

What Makes AC Good

1.) Free-running. There is no free-running in Hitman or any other stealth game I can think of.

2.) Pseudo-open world gameplay. The storyline and the unlocking of new places is linear, but you can go anywhere you want within what you have unlocked. Very few stealth games do this at all. MGS3 comes the closest, but I wouldn't count it.

3.) Action. Not stealth. A little stealth here and there is fine, but AC has always been mostly about action. Count the number of times you had to make sure you weren't seen in AC1 and AC2 to the number of times you totally destroyed a large group of guards.

4.) Brutally realistic kill animations. This. 1000 times. I guess Hitman has this to a degree, but not on the level of AC.

I hate to sound like a fanboy or something, but I wouldn't be happy with a AC game that didn't have those 4 things in it.

You really need to re-read my post again and what the topic is about. It is about what of Assassin's Creed would be like if it was set in modern day rather than say the Renaissance or earlier. Not Hitman vs AC. I was merely stating how if AC was all about guns and stuff, then it would be no different than Hitman, but with added flairs.

1. Free-running. There are no Hitman games with free running because....well duh Hitman came out long before AC. Can it have free-running? Yes it can if the developers choose to put it in. Hitman, also unlike other stealth games, doesn't have the whole alarm system thing. It is more like AC than you think.

Hitman and AC have the same degree of Action. Go in using stealth, take out your target, then run out of there. In both you can go out fighting and killing as you go and you can sneak out, but neither is necessary

2. "Psuedo-open world" This is actually a misnomer as while traversing it is free-roam the story itself in linear. Might as well make it linear, but again this is different games at different times

3. Action. Both games have it. Both do it differently. Do you think if Ezio or Altair had a gun they would be carrying swords? Probably not. The purpose of the post, which you need to read again, is not that AC and Hitman are the same, but if AC became modern with guns then yes it would be like Hitman only with free-running.

4.) Brutally realistic kill animations. I don't quite get what you mean by this. If you mean "flair" then yes AC has it, but again...GUNS!!! How brutal do you want someone to look when poisoned or get shot with sniper rifles?

I am sorry if you don't understand this concept, but GUNS and SWORDS are two completely different things.

In a way I am agreeing with you that Hitman and AC are not the same. HOWEVER, if they took a modern day Assassin's Creed with guns and not swords...then it wouldn't be much different than Hitman. There would be no point to the awesome sword play that it has if guns are involved. That would be stupid. Knives and hidden blades would be okay, but Altair or Ezio would not stand a chance if they were put into modern day settings.

Two different games, same premise, two different time zones.

Don't look at it as Hitman vs AC. Look at it like "Guns vs Swords"

 

[Tdc2182]

Dont do present, do futuristic. Except the eve thing from the first game is making illusions so that guns arent working and it has caused the apocalypse or something.

That might be a good idea. It sounds a little too "Mass Effect" or "Halo," but we could have a sort of shield. Perhaps we can't fire with a gun while we use it, but that would work, I think. It's too bad Assassin's Creed isn't further into the future. If it was, we could really have fun with this idea. Oh well.

Hmm... than maybe do the near future, like a bomb goes off or something. Or do a mindfuck thing and haave the future ancestor of Desmond watching desmond watching the Animus. And he now knows all of the moves and such

 

[Gyrefalcon]

I think it could be brought up to 1800's London, think of the days of Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Ripper. It could easily be done. But SHOULD it?

 

[tvfreak9]

You people keep saying that it will take place in sky-scrapers, but it's more likely to take place in Aztec ruins because that's where minerva tells you to go.

 

[Tears of Blood]

*rage*

I can't help but disagree with you here. If guns were to be put in Assassin's Creed, it wouldn't make it a Hitman game. What we're trying to do here is figure out a way to make an AC game, probably with guns, that would still be AC and not a game like Hitman.

Sheesh.

And, Hitman -can- have as much action as Assassin's Creed, it just probably won't. You're not rewarded for playing the game like a madman. You're rewarded for only killing your targets and sneaking away. Hitman isn't about action. Assassin's Creed is full-on action. Stealth plays a minor role in AC, while stealth plays a major role in Hitman.

 

[Jirlond]

I would keep it CQC style with nice looking executions for modern day assasins creed. Getting around the guns thing would be annoying.

 

[Caligulove]

who says it would be gun-oriented?
People still get stabbed to death. Who knows, maybe itll take place entirely in a prison?

But Im sure it could all be done. Though some would cry it would turn into Hitman- and to that I say... You never needed guns in those games. the Garrote wire was much more fun- and challenging.

And with all that said, I wish they wouldnt. Because it would feel too similar. Its like, wow, thanks Ubisoft, I was just enjoying the different settings you were using up until now.

And who says we have to keep going forward in time?
Still, if we had to go to 20th century era. I would like ACIII (or whatever) to take place in turn of the century, pre-revolution Russia.
Again, something NEW! thats what Id like

 

[Tears of Blood]

who says it would be gun-oriented?
People still get stabbed to death. Who knows, maybe itll take place entirely in a prison?

But Im sure it could all be done. Though some would cry it would turn into Hitman- and to that I say... You never needed guns in those games. the Garrote wire was much more fun- and challenging.

And with all that said, I wish they wouldnt. Because it would feel too similar. Its like, wow, thanks Ubisoft, I was just enjoying the different settings you were using up until now.

And who says we have to keep going forward in time?
Still, if we had to go to 20th century era. I would like ACIII (or whatever) to take place in turn of the century, pre-revolution Russia.
Again, something NEW! thats what Id like

It ain't gonna' turn into Hitman.

Almost has to be gun oriented, unless some plot device says otherwise. All AC games have been somewhat open and allowed free-running and climbing.

Furthermore, the next game pretty much has to be modern for several reasons.

1.) Developers said it would be a trilogy.

2.) Point of AC2 was to make Desmond the ultimate assassin.

3.) The story can only be rounded-out in a modern setting. It cannot be done in some older era.

 

[George Francis Gaspar]

I think it could happen...it would just look a lot like Splinter Cell Conviction/Blacklist....and I wouldn't mind that.

 

[xshadowscreamx]

i dont really like the idea of a modern setting, the biulding structures wont work for the fast fluid jumping a climbing, from skyline to skyline. if it did work, it would be called mirrors edge.
also, i enjoy the historic settings, your ''learning'' and having fun in a different non-boring environment...
familiar modern world= boring and AC franchise suicide.