MoH: Warfighter Gets a Big Trailer and a Bigger Patch

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Slayer_2 said:
MoH features the JTF2. On the other hand, calling it "realistic" in any way is a stretch. In most modern combat, you can't see your enemy well, if at all. In MoH, "long range combat" is probably around the 50 meter mark.
I prefer CSOR over the JTF2 but moving on. In most modern combat, at least the stuff we've done, we've always been within 400m of our enemy at the most - close enough for a C8 to become necessary and effective. They know that we have a greater advantage and are much more sophisticated at long range. They like to attack us real close up so it comes down to speed, skill, and a bit of luck rather than technology.

Slayer_2 said:
Also the part where you said "for good reasons" further supported the notion that women are inferior to men and cannot hold their own in a combat role simply because they are women.
As for women, I've only seen less than a dozen in combat arms trades. I don't think women really have the same brain patterns - or whatever - as men when it comes to violence and action, they like to be a part of something great and help people. Don't get me wrong the ones I've seen are tough as nails and very aggressive but I think majority of women don't want to be in the think of it as much as a man does.

Frankly I thought the last MOH did a very good job and I can't wait to get my copy.
 

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For a video titled "Launch Gameplay Trailer", it sure had a fuck of a lot of Things That Aren't Gameplay.

Like, almost all of it.
 

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Dawns Gate said:
As for women, I've only seen less than a dozen in combat arms trades. I don't think women really have the same brain patterns - or whatever - as men when it comes to violence and action, they like to be a part of something great and help people. Don't get me wrong the ones I've seen are tough as nails and very aggressive but I think majority of women don't want to be in the think of it as much as a man does.

Frankly I thought the last MOH did a very good job and I can't wait to get my copy.
And neither do most men. I bet most men here haven't seen armed conflict, or are willing to. Just because most people in a gender don't wish to do something, doesn't mean ALL of them can't or won't do it. I'm not saying there are more female soldiers, just that it's stupid and sexist to say women can't fight in wars just because they are women, especially now when even the shittiest firearms can easily kill from 300 meters in the hands of a trained and steady shooter. We aren't fighting with rocks and sticks anymore, brute strength doesn't mean much against bullets, or worse. Most armies have drones, planes, and tanks capable of killing from kilometers away.

Agreed on the last MoH being good, although I feel it was only good for a play-through or two and a few hours of MP, so I'm gonna wait for the price to drop from $60.

EDIT, missed the first part (damn cold), will reply to that here:

I prefer CSOR over the JTF2 but moving on. In most modern combat, at least the stuff we've done, we've always been within 400m of our enemy at the most - close enough for a C8 to become necessary and effective. They know that we have a greater advantage and are much more sophisticated at long range. They like to attack us real close up so it comes down to speed, skill, and a bit of luck rather than technology.
I believe the JTF2 are the Canadians featured in MoH, which is why I picked them. Of course Canada doesn't have the same kind of technology that our southern neighbors do, and the spec ops probably fight in "close quarters" most of the time. Close quarters in real life is far different than in MoH, and I've never been in combat, but I doubt slow mo fist fights are really that common. Even if they are, I know plenty of trained females that could kick my ass. I'm sure the special ops get training in unarmed combat and that the female soldiers can easily outfight Taliban insurgents, either hand-to-hand or with firearms.
 

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blackrave said:
So sausage-fest again?
I'm kinda sick of this- where are ladies on the front line?
Ok, so they are generally weaker and slower? Great, let women pilot aircrafts and heavy vehicles then. Or maybe some support roles. Anywhere else where muscle strength isn't factor that limits efficiency.
Because there are around 5-35% of women in army. (depends on country, but average could be considered 10%)
So where are they in the "realistic" military shooters?
Go play the campaign of BF3 again. The jet mission you play as a female pilot. In a silent protagonist kind of way, but she's there all right.

But really at this point, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Add a female character? Then she was obviously shoehorned in to appease female gamers.

Don't add a female character? Sausage fest!

If the character is written well, then fuck whatever gender he/she/it is. Doesn't matter.
 

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I actually think this looks pretty good, but money is tight and I wouldn't have the time to play it.

blackrave said:
So sausage-fest again?
I'm kinda sick of this- where are ladies on the front line?
Ok, so they are generally weaker and slower? Great, let women pilot aircrafts and heavy vehicles then. Or maybe some support roles. Anywhere else where muscle strength isn't factor that limits efficiency.
Because there are around 5-35% of women in army. (depends on country, but average could be considered 10%)
So where are they in the "realistic" military shooters?
There was a female pilot in Call of Duty 4... and that's all I remember.