Mojang Tempted to Claim YouTube Revenue on Minecraft Videos
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I think the point that is trying to be made is that (sticking with the "murder" scenario) was that if someone was "tempted" to kill you and then told you the next day you might feel a little... upset. For instance we can observe the stockholm syndrome basically mistaking lack of abuse for kindness.Zombie_Moogle said:
The way I see it is that Notch decided that he could gain a bigger "slice of the pie" by keeping the videos up as advertising, but also because taking the revenue would create a bigger backlash then it was worth. Essentially Machinima is already making money off of Minecraft anyway so...
A person on the escapist who just read the title and not the article, should we all be so surprised?mad825 said:
Notch is a business man, I hardly believe for a second he chose not to do it out of the goodness of his heart but because, unlike Nintendo, he knows PR makes or breaks a small company like his. Is he a dick for making the smart choice? No. Is he purposefully telling us he had the option but didn't take it? Yes.
No but seriously if that was me I would have spanked Machinima just for the heck of it, oh you think I should pay you for allowing you to use my game? Well enjoy your ad revenue being hijacked by me. Of course it would have been a stupid business decision, I would have just laughed and told them to stuff it where the sun don't shine or I would file a lawsuit for any and all revenue made prior to this point using my game.
Why am I so mean and vindictive against Machinima? Because they are already a bunch of exploitative douchebags offering unlimited contracts to teenagers barely out of highschool or still in highschool that sign over all rights forever and ever and can never ever be broken to any video content they make. They are a bunch of businessmen who hijacked a fan site when the fans could no longer support the growing costs and turned it into a money printing machine.
sound about right. Google were always going the "ad revenue goes to big people while you slave for us" strategy. eccept thy provide great service, for free, so yeah we will still use it.Mr.K. said:
Machinima seem like some conglomerate of activision like. a whirpool that sucks in godo stuff and spats out destruction. the only good thing there was Freemans Mind, and even that kidn shut down.
And really is it any news that indie devs have more decency. the big companies, well, almost all of them kinda tried their best to mess things up lately.
Do we always have to look on the negative side of everything? I mean, with all the bad news being circulated around on a constant basis, I'm actually glad to get some good news. I mean seriously, if he was honestly trying to use this incident to purely paint himself as good, I would think that he would've said "I didn't consider it for a second," and not "it was tempting."Nocturnus said:
I think it's nice Notch took the time to tell us about how he's not an asshole. I enjoy doing this as well. For instance, I was walking to the store earlier and I saw a stray cat and I didn't try to kick it or anything, how awesome am I?
If Mojang was meeting Youtube with the intention of getting revenue from Let's plays then you are right.mad825 said:
However they were offered the ad revenue by Youtube and turned down the offer. Honestly it just seems you are jumping at opportunities to hate him.
He's a dick for not taking any money that someone was offering him. You got some solid logic there.mad825 said:
Wha...?Strazdas said:
*runs off to check Ross Scott's website*
Whew. Thought he'd dropped it altogether. Turns out he didn't like a new contract Machinima wanted him to sign (and given what this story has shed on their business practices I'm not surprised) and will now be using Blip.tv. And he says he's got a new episode going up sometime this weekend
OT: If Youtube are doing the rounds at the moment (which seems likely) I wonder who else they're making this offer to?
One has to wonder when YouTube offered it, and why it's popping up now - in the wake of Nintendo's blunder. The timing and having to advertise it, when most business deals are usually kept behind closed doors is just very ... suspect.Nocturnus said:
I think the point he's trying to make is that it's more of a PR stunt, catering to the fanbase and bandwagon jumping and exploiting community goodwill.erttheking said:
If I was him I'd claim it and donate money to charity provided that there are no analysis of the game nor any form of effort coming from the YouTubers part.
I've seen enough lps that just have lazy voice overs and unfunny jokes added to them. They certainly don't deserve the money. Play them for games. If for profit then they can just fuck off.
I think off it this way: If abridged series creators such as guys of dbz series don't make money directly from the videos neither should those lazy bastards.
I've seen enough lps that just have lazy voice overs and unfunny jokes added to them. They certainly don't deserve the money. Play them for games. If for profit then they can just fuck off.
I think off it this way: If abridged series creators such as guys of dbz series don't make money directly from the videos neither should those lazy bastards.
"Mojang isn't the only one viewing these videos are free advertising."
Wow... If you don't see the problem with that sentence please stop writing professionally. Also, if you understood Notch as a person this article would have been written differently. That line "it was tempting" fits in with his sense of humor. He could have just as easily said "never in a million years we are not stupid." but he will go for what he thinks is funny every time PR be damned.
Edit: I actually don't like Notch as a person or as a businessman. This is more that I think the article is borderline sensationalist, trying to cash in on anything even remotely related to the big news, aka the Nintendo debacle; not a defense of Notch.
Wow... If you don't see the problem with that sentence please stop writing professionally. Also, if you understood Notch as a person this article would have been written differently. That line "it was tempting" fits in with his sense of humor. He could have just as easily said "never in a million years we are not stupid." but he will go for what he thinks is funny every time PR be damned.
Edit: I actually don't like Notch as a person or as a businessman. This is more that I think the article is borderline sensationalist, trying to cash in on anything even remotely related to the big news, aka the Nintendo debacle; not a defense of Notch.
There's no way this is going to become a thing that companies do. In fact, I would bet Nintendo is going to reverse their decision soon.
The instant professional YouTubers can no longer make money on a certain type of video, they stop making it. If companies really start making more of these claims, the companies won't make any money as the LP market will simply dry up.
The instant professional YouTubers can no longer make money on a certain type of video, they stop making it. If companies really start making more of these claims, the companies won't make any money as the LP market will simply dry up.
I would be curious to see how many LPer's have pulled their videos in light of Nintendo's decision. As far as Notch goes I must be out of the loop cause I don't have any reason to see the guy as a dick. I do see this as a RP move and it does make sense to use it as such. Frankly the LP'ers should be glad Notch isn't taking the company public because if he did you know the investors would sign this deal with Youtube in a heartbeat.
Nice move Machinima, nice move. Seriously, I could have pointed to how badly you treat your content producers (Such as Ross Scott, creator of Freeman's Mind who left Machinima earlier this month after 4 months of not being able to post videos), but I think this takes the cake.
OT: Saw this a few days ago. Glad they didn't, and I can understand why they were tempted. Seriously, think of how many of the biggest gaming channels do Minecraft.
OT: Saw this a few days ago. Glad they didn't, and I can understand why they were tempted. Seriously, think of how many of the biggest gaming channels do Minecraft.
Well with this news I have come to the conclusion of a few things:
1. Notch may be kind of a dick sometimes, but he isn't stupid enough to make a quick buck off of the thing that pretty much gave him all his money in the first place.
2. Youtube is becoming dumber and dumber as a company as time goes on (yes I know they are part of google, but they are basically a branch of google.)
3. I really hate this kind of stuff.
1. Notch may be kind of a dick sometimes, but he isn't stupid enough to make a quick buck off of the thing that pretty much gave him all his money in the first place.
2. Youtube is becoming dumber and dumber as a company as time goes on (yes I know they are part of google, but they are basically a branch of google.)
3. I really hate this kind of stuff.