Molyneux: I've Never Made a Great Game

[[zonking great]]

This is the worst reverse psychology I've seen in years.
Do you all realize what he's doing? He's basically saying all of those who bought any of his games are idiots who bought incomplete products.

 

[Arec Balrin]

The problem is he's defining 'great' as 'triple-A' which idiots define as 'over five million sold'. Molyneux has made great games, it's just that he did so in a time before there were games selling five million units.

Populous, Syndicate, Dungeon Keeper, Theme Park. So that's him inventing the god-game, violent sandbox, playing as the bad guy and Theme Park almost before anyone else did. They were great; it's just that at the time copying was extremely easy and stupid publishers made games too expensive considering the amount of negative value they carried. If you owned a legitimate copy of a game and it broke, you had no guarantee. There was zero chance of million-selling non-console games before cheap CDs and hard drives.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I never liked Fable, but Pete is a standup guy. He's in the business for the games, not for the money. That's always a plus.

 

[Deadlock Radium]

I somewhat believe that people will start asking new users "Are you Peter Molyneux?"

 

[CoverYourHead]

Well... Gotta agree with him here. Never really liked his games.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

I like Peter Molyneux, he seems like a nice guy. Sure he's weird, but in an endearing way.

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

Peter, you made Fable: The Lost Chapters. Sure, it took two attempts, but who hits gold on their first swing? That is a great game.

But please, do keep trying. Fable 2 would have been there if it hadn't ended so pathetically, so here's to hope that Fable 3 fixes all of 2's issues. Guess I'll find out Sunday.

 

[Ubermetalhed]

I'm sure if he released some games which were multi-platform, then his good games would get to the 5 million mark regardless if they were actually 'great' or not.

 

[Best of the 3]

Weird. I could have sworn quite a long while ago I was on this guys hate train. Now I'm really starting to like Pete's comments, even the bad ones.

 

[Red Right Hand]

Fables were good games, they just have some flaws, sooner or later we will have that truly great game.

Any game that ends with a SINGLE moral choice that renders every last thing you did before that irrelevant is not a good game. The fables are bad, bad games.

I've been saying he doesn't make good games for years, I'm pleased he and I are on the same page.

What? Surely a measure of whether a game is good or not depends on the level of enjoyment experienced by the users? Not some arbitrary game flaw. Sure that can affect whether someone enjoys it, but the flaw you mentioned didn't really have an affect on my experience of the games. Speaking as someone who enjoyed the Fable series immensely, I would certainly say that they are not bad, bad games. I'm pretty sure i'm not alone in that opinion either.

OT: This is what I love about Peter Molyneux. While he might promise the world in the run-up to a game, he's the first one to point out it's flaws and that's what let's me forgive his over-enthusiasm.

 

[Charley]

Isn't this the man who "revolutionises gaming" every ten minutes?

...What have you done with the real Molyneux?

 

[Delock]

Allow me to say this, I don't think Fable is the best game series around, I don't like Peter Molyneux's constant promise he doesn't deliever on, and I don't feel like purchasing Fable 3 day 1.

That being said, when reflecting on the article and the comments posted, I'll say this, he's a good game developer. He's ambitious, enthusiastic, his own worst critic publicly, willing to move forward (what seperates him from 3D Realms' old boss is that he knows when to release the game rather than just keep adding on), goal-oriented, confidient (and while I originally thought he was over-, it seems from this article he's down-to-earth enough to avoid that), involved, and determined to make a great game.

I did have fun with Fable 1 (partly because I didn't follow any news about it), Fable 2 wasn't a bad game, and I'm willing to say Fable 3 might be a good game, so Peter Molyneux, I'd like to apologize for being a bit harsh on you over the years, and good luck with Fable 3.

 

[binvjoh]

I'd say Fable 1 was pretty darn good.

Maybe not great, but a very solid title.

I still stick to my theory that if given enough time, he will one day make a truly amazing game.

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

Populous, Black & White 2, and Fable 1 will be always good times in my memory...

 

[veloper]

Our dear lunatic experienced a brief moment of clarity.
It's true he used to make good games back when Bullfrog still existed.

 

[manythings]

Fables were good games, they just have some flaws, sooner or later we will have that truly great game.

Any game that ends with a SINGLE moral choice that renders every last thing you did before that irrelevant is not a good game. The fables are bad, bad games.

I've been saying he doesn't make good games for years, I'm pleased he and I are on the same page.

What? Surely a measure of whether a game is good or not depends on the level of enjoyment experienced by the users? Not some arbitrary game flaw. Sure that can affect whether someone enjoys it, but the flaw you mentioned didn't really have an affect on my experience of the games. Speaking as someone who enjoyed the Fable series immensely, I would certainly say that they are not bad, bad games. I'm pretty sure i'm not alone in that opinion either.

OT: This is what I love about Peter Molyneux. While he might promise the world in the run-up to a game, he's the first one to point out it's flaws and that's what let's me forgive his over-enthusiasm.

A single choice that turns you from Jesus Christ into the Devil just because those are the two choices isn't an arbitrary complaint, it's a wholesale betrayal of the rest of the game when you were supposed to be making this hero with their own choices. How did that make any kind of narrative sense? It was something that came about because everyone wanted to go home early that day and they said "Fuck it, that'll do."

 

[xmbts]

I like his enthusiasm, but he needs to know what can be done before he starts confirming that it will be in the game.

 

[00slash00]

well at least he can admit it

 

[thethingthatlurks]

He was involved with Bullfrog, wasn't he? If so, he has already made the greatest game of all time with Dungeon Keeper 2!
Other than that, stfu. If you want to make a great game, do it, but don't ***** about your past failures.