Wow. You know you've fekd when pete puts on his serious head. I would say I agree ith you pete if it wasn't for the fact the one-upmanship is as old as bussiness and been used by all companies... Including you pete. You can't call foul now the guys you used to work for got a massive kick in the balls... By themselves.
Molyneux: Microsoft's E3 Conference Was "Unprofessional"
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Yeah, two frats going at it... if one frat is ordering roofies in bulk and the other frat is calling the cops.
In unrelated news, false equivalencies make you look fucking stupid.
In unrelated news, false equivalencies make you look fucking stupid.
I honestly dont see why the Microsoft conference was bad, it was all just games, games and more games. Isnt that what we wanted them to show in the other years? But Microsoft now sucks so hurr durr their conference sucked
I think it's time to have my medications reexamined. Peter Molyneux is making sense. It's the 7th Sign of the Apocalypse!!
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If you store it on a laptop, of course you can reinstall any time without a connection. The steam equivalent would be to move the game folder to a temporary drive and place it back when you want it, without an internet connection. Or redownload from the store...
I get the hookup online to play on steam is a notch against it in the comparison, but your added point about installation is on equal terms.
Some friends of mine have steam + games installed to portable hard drives and usb3 keys so they can play on whatever computer they happen to be at without installing anything. Naturally, they need to log into their accounts and therefore need an internet connection in order to do this.
Look he might be a shadow of his former self, but if you ever played PC game in the 90s, he was standing at the top with Will Wright and Sid Meier. The guy actually invented a game genre, god game. But overstating has always been part of his personality.Olrod said:
Sony and MS playing off each other is only going to benefit one group of people.
The consumer.
Yeah, I'm okay with that. It's called competition. You watch what your competitor does, and then you try to steal his customers by offering something better. Granted an entire business model shouldn't be based on just not being what the other guy is, but if that's what your customers want, well, you'd be stupid (MS) to ignore that.
So I'm sorry if the aristocracy of the game dev community are unhappy with competition happening, but it's a great time to be a consumer of video games.
The consumer.
Yeah, I'm okay with that. It's called competition. You watch what your competitor does, and then you try to steal his customers by offering something better. Granted an entire business model shouldn't be based on just not being what the other guy is, but if that's what your customers want, well, you'd be stupid (MS) to ignore that.
So I'm sorry if the aristocracy of the game dev community are unhappy with competition happening, but it's a great time to be a consumer of video games.
Mistake there he been doing it way longer then that, the guy always overstated, but he a game designer mainly, so he always tell what he want to game to be, not what the programmer and artist are actually capable of doing, for the guy work at the early stage of the production.llagrok said:
How so? All he's done is encourage MS to be more persuasive with their BS. I don't care how you dress up the "mandatory" online thing, it'll always be a thing that exists to benefit publishers. Always online can be called a "feature" only when it is OPTIONAL.Proverbial Jon said:
For example; technically my iTunes library is "always online", attached to the cloud. But when I take my non-3G iPad on the road, my music, games, apps, and videos all still work if they are on my iPad's internal storage. Now I like the idea of not having to rely on my iPad's paltry 16GB of storage and have all my media at my disposal, but Apple gives me the option to use it, or not, as I see fit. That's called giving the customer what they want.
He's not saying it needs to be dressed up, he's saying there has to be such incentive for the gamers that we decide it's worth going through these daily checks in order to gain the benefits. I suppose the obvious example of this in action is Steam, where the benefit of the sales out ways the issues caused by it's often heavy online requirements. Well for a lot of us at least.timboo_drow said:
And I'm saying that tying any benefits arbitrarily to mandatory online will NEVER be received well because it's unnecessary and savvy consumers know that. Any attempt to convince us otherwise amounts to artful BS.uro vii said:
erhm. That's not what his initial reaction to microsoft's conference was. When asked about his views on MS's performance by Geoff Keighley, Molyneux's answer was "redemption".
just putting it out there. Someone please tell him to make up his bloody mind.
just putting it out there. Someone please tell him to make up his bloody mind.
The one point I'll disagree on is that the "frat boy" attitude of Microsoft/Sony is a bad thing
I was pretty concerned that they might collaborate to institute these draconian authentication policies across the board, so I'm glad to see their still competing for our affection to some degree
I was pretty concerned that they might collaborate to institute these draconian authentication policies across the board, so I'm glad to see their still competing for our affection to some degree
Alright, well then I suppose I simply think your wrong there. I don't think necessity has much to do with it. As I pointing out with the Steam example, people are more than willing to put up with unnecessary inconvenience if they believe they're benefiting enough from it.timboo_drow said: