Moral Absolutes

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In my R.E. class today we were discussing Moral Absolutes, meaning something that is evil (or good) no matter what the situation. The only thing that we could come up with was Rape after coming to the conclusion that we believe that Euthanasia comes under killing. So what ideas do you have for this topic? Can you think of any more?
 

AkJay

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I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
 
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AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
 

neuromasser

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Good and evil, right and wrong depend on your viewpoints, so I disagree with the idea of moral absolutes.

suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
You could check wikipedia on Philantropy instead of being embarrassed.
 

iJosh

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What ever you feel is good or bad. I hate this moral question. It's the only moral question profs use to sound smart.
 

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AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
raping hitler is good.
 

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many people take a middle position between moral relativism and moral absolutism. Some things they see as bad no matter the circumstances, others can sometimes be good. Most people in my experience are relativists though as they can thinkof situations where anything is acceptable.

I will usually take the relativist position. It makes more sense if you ask me.
 

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suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
Philantropes hate humanity. Their the kind of people that say: "I think the world would be better off if we were all dead."
 

neuromasser

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Biek said:
suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
Philantropes hate humanity. Their the kind of people that say: "I think the world would be better off if we were all dead."
You've got it wrong. Misanthropy and Philantropy
 

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Agent Larkin said:
Helping other would always be good. For bad I would have to say Genocide.
Not if you're helping someone take over the world.
Or helping someone commit genocide.
 

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Glerken said:
Agent Larkin said:
Helping other would always be good. For bad I would have to say Genocide.
Not if you're helping someone take over the world.
Or helping someone commit genocide.
I ment generally helping people in the helpful way i.e. Doing shopping fo old people etc. And in all honestly if im helping someone take over the world and they succed well shucks.
 

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neuromasser said:
Biek said:
suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
Philantropes hate humanity. Their the kind of people that say: "I think the world would be better off if we were all dead."
You've got it wrong. Misanthropy and Philantropy
Your right. I mixed those 2 up.
 

Anachronism

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I'd have to agree with the OP and Max in that rape is the only thing that is always evil. Pretty much everything else, especially killing, can be justified. Even, arguably, genocide can be justified. If the race in question simply cannot coexist with others, and constantly seeks conflict, then destroying it is to the general benefit. (Of course, this is an extreme situation. 99% of the time genocide is very, very evil.) Rape, however, can never be justified.
confernal said:
Right and wrong are just words.... what matters is what you do.
Futurama FTW!
 

manaman

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confernal said:
Right and wrong are just words.... what matters is what you do.
And right and wrong are words that describe those actions.
suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
Philanthropy is giving money to charitable causes, for reasons of extreme good will. Not like a billionaire giving a few hundred thousand for tax reasons.

Not to be confused with a Philanderer, which is a man who sleeps with women with no intention to marry them.

On Topic:

Philanderer actually illustrates how some perceived right and wrongs can change over time. The language still exits to be offenses towards actions that are no longer considered wrong.

Does not change the fact that murder (and homicide, etc are different) is wrong. Murder is not self defense, murder is not manslaughter which might be through negligence, but not through malicious means. Murder is the intentional premeditated killing of another human being. Something that is not considered a right anywhere on this globe. I argue that even if right and wrong are built on societal pressures, that something as encompassing as that could be considered an absolute.

Note: I am simply talking about within the culture. Some cultures could care less what you did to other races of people. Or for that matter then next village over. They however sure as shit cared there.
 

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Biek said:
neuromasser said:
Biek said:
suckmyBR said:
AkJay said:
I dont know, i like ot believe that if Hitler has been raped, The Holocaust would not have happened.

On another note... maybe Philantropy?
It makes me feel embarrassed to admit that I don't know what that is. . .
Philantropes hate humanity. Their the kind of people that say: "I think the world would be better off if we were all dead."
You've got it wrong. Misanthropy and Philantropy
Your right. I mixed those 2 up.
Glad I could help. I'm misanthrope, I should know this xD