Morrowind, Good RPG?

[Demons_Bane]

I will try it later and then answer the question.

 

[xavierxenon]

I didn't even think it was that good, let alone best ever.

Any why bother asking a question if you ren't going to state your own opinion?

 

[erbkaiser]

It is not the best RPG ever, but it is a very good one. The sheer awesome of the environment, the non required quests, the setting -- everything works great in this game.

 

[kotorfan04]

I don't know, I never could really get into Morrowind, I tried to play it and a lot of the aspects were kind of interesting but for me it just wasn't fun. Now that sequel which you expressly forbid us from mentioning, I thought that game was pretty addictive and I think I logged quite a few months playing that game... In fact one might say I played it to Oblivion... But I know Morrowind has a large following so I will just say I couldn't get into it and would probably rank it farely low on my list of awesome RPGs.

 

[Callate]

It's a good game. The architecture is fantastic, the variety of characters one can build and ways they can look was revolutionary, and a lot of the quests and set-pieces are very well designed. Even with all the swirling ash and whatnot, it's still a very beautiful game.

But it has some non-trivial flaws as well. The designers made poorly-conceived limitations on things like the economy and magic item creation, and then put even more poorly-conceived (and extremely "munchkiny") ways of overcoming those limitations into the game. The overarcing plot is a cliche within fantasy, and borders on being a cliche even within the world of The Elder Scrolls. Dialogue is highly generic and non-immersive, and all characters of importance stand around waiting for you to push their buttons.

I finished the main storyline. I'm not sorry that I did. But I've never felt a strong need to play through it again, since. The world and the characters never compelled me very much.

So in summation: good game. Not the best game ever.

 

[SimuLord]

Best ever? Damn close, but I liked Oblivion this much better *holds thumb and forefinger ~3mm apart*.

It's close though. I've had Morrowind in that top spot before. I've also had Fallout 3 there. So I guess Bethesda's just got a knack for this sort of thing.

 

[The Great Zegrool]

Morrowind:

Great RPG, or greatest RPG?

Really though, it was awesome, but it would be hard for me to call it best ever.

 

[geldonyetich]

Personally, I found Morrowind to be rather buggy and with generally unsatisfying gameplay. Sure, the setting was fairly unique and cool, but... well, in all other aspects Oblivion completely blew it out of the water.

 

[Galebaby]

I'd say that even with the long list of things bad with Morrowind I still enjoyed it and have given it my vote for best rpg ever.

If only Morrowind had the graphics and combat system of Oblivion while keeping its content I'd be in love.

Yes. I know about Morroblivion. My computer can't handle it.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Personally I didn't like it, I thought Oblivion was much better (though still not a great game, really)

 

[Shinigami214]

Everytime someone refers to any Final Fantasy game a a Role Playing Game, I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Final Fantasy games are Adventure games. They don't let you really ROLE PLAY a character beyond making a couple of token choices here and there.

As for best (actual) RPG games, its highly subjective. Names that spring to mind are Fallout, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment, Mass Effect (and Mass Effect 2), Baldur's Gate 2.

Altho my top-fav is Planescape: Torment.

 

[captaincabbage]

I wouldn't say its the BEST RPG, since Fallout 3 still takes that award for me, but I'd be lying outright if I said I didn't want to play a re-make of Morrowind on the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine.

 

[GreatVladmir]

Morrowind is the 2nd greatest RPG of all time (the number 1 spot going to Dungeons n Dragons 3.5), it is the only video game RPG to truley immerse me into its world, its bleak, hostile, CLIFFRACER!!! infested world and I loved every minute. Sure the combat was dodgey, the spell casting alil broken, and CLIFFRACERS!!!!! ARRRGHGHGGG!! but the story was incredibly strong, the NPC's differed, thankfully they didn't speak there dialogue but most of all, you can turn into a werewolf.

 

[obex]

If you had asked me this when it came out i might of said yes but it has not aged well with graphics and its awesome game play was expanded upon in Oblivion.

Actual best RPG's

Baldurs gate 1/2

Fallout 1/2/3

 

[Daniel_Rosamilia]

Nope. The world felt completely dead. It really did nothing to draw me into it.

If you consider it a set of rules, yes, it was among the best. If you consider it a "role-playing" experience, it was frankly pretty poor. All you ever were in Morrowind was a set of statistics and a quest log, and the world was nothing more than a static backdrop. At least you could see consequences for your actions in Oblivion.

This is precisely what I wanted to say.
Yeah, the combat sucked, selling/buying was a bit biased towards the seller (except for Creeper, he would buy about 50 useless soul gems for 5000), the enemies were randomly placed (there was a Flame Atronach in Solstheim...), magic was pretty useless (except for walking on water and levitating) and there were WAY TOO MANY FUCKING CLIFFRACERS!!!!!!!!!

But the story kinda made up for some of those, but overall, not the best RPG.
Maybe 3rd.

 

[Johnny Cain]

Morrowind was the last true sandbox/freedom RPG as far as I'm concerned.
Personally I'll give it the 'Best of all time' title, but there's many titles harkening years before Morrowind that have special places in some peoples hearts.
Just look at some of the posts in this thread, everybodies got their favourites up for candidacy

 

[captainwillies]

It could be but unfortunalty it was made with some errors.
1. The combat system was pretty much just swing and miss 99/100 times
2. The enviroment was just ash. . . thats it
3. Cliffracers
4. Main story mission was terrible, nobody wanted to complete it
5. Magic Is useless (cept walk on water)
6. CLIFFRACERS!

but the dialog and RPG part of the game is epic

1.learn how to stat manage when picking a class and race then rush that weapon to max
2.sounds like someone doesn't know how to fast travel.
3.I FUCKING AGREE
4.I kind of agree. i think the main problem is it just wasn't as good as some of the faction missions or even some of the side missions.
5.AGREED.
6.RAAAAAAAGE

@topic

in all seriousness though I would put Morrowind in the same category as final fantasy 7 yes it was amazing fantastical and genius when it first came out but it aged horribly and there are atleast half-dozen better current gen games out that are better. simply put the only reason i can think of why anyone would ever want to play this game is for nostalgia.

 

[Psychophante]

Best? Dunno. One of the best? Definately. Soaked up an awful lot of my life, and it kicks Oblivion's arse.

 

[likalaruku]

It's one of the only 2 games I played for 8 hours a day for a solid month.

 

[TheRocketeer]

[cluster of bewildered justifying edits]

Sorry, man. The term 'RPG' is about as vague as you can get, and most people taking issue with your idea of Morrowind holding any sort of glory in that field are less hacked off about your opinion and more hacked off that you weren't talking specifically about their kind of RPG.

Let me take a moment to say something that will elicit a long, puzzled blink from a few readers: the 'RPG' genre is a colossal putrid tumor, pulsating on the gut of gaming culture. Let me elicit another long slow blink by saying RPG's of all stripes are about my favorite games out there, and always have been.

See, the 'RPG' clot is exactly like a tumor: it should have split years and years ago into smaller sections, and then split again, and then maybe once again for good measure. There are probably anywhere from four to eight kinds of RPG's in video gaming that could easily be considered their own genre. Is Diablo in the same genre as Final Fantasy? Are either in the same genre as the Elder Scrolls? Are any of them in the same genre as Zelda? No on all counts, but if you claim that any of them wasn't or isn't an RPG you will instantly invite the scorn of one sect while simultaneously drawing the admiration of another for telling it like it is.

As things stand, RPG's, like a tumorous mass, grow ever larger and ever more malignant to itself while becoming more and more insular and resistant to the rest of the 'body's' attempt to fix it, much less get any sort of use out of it. Fans of each subgenre hate the idea of sharing billing with the other subgenres, and often the very idea that the other subgenres even exist seems irrational to them, eg, the pointless, asinine bickering about WRPG's versus JRPG's.

It wouldn't be half as imbecilic as it is if it weren't all done for the reason I suspect it is: everyone wants the coveted genre's name. For years, the term 'RPG' stood for something that was at least perceived to occupy a higher, more intelligent, more artistically important seat than other genres. Platformers? You jump on shit. Shooters? Self explanatory. Role-playing games? Vast, developed settings, deep casts, and intricate plots. Merely being called an RPG, even today, is held to mean something by genre devotees, and to be called something other than an RPG is to be known as something less than an RPG. The arguments are invariably, therefore, about what kind of game gets to wear the crown of 'true' RPG-dom, with everyone else getting to fall in line behind or beneath it.

This is, naturally, something that will never resolve itself. So, rather than splitting as it should have, its necessary mitosis fell all over itself indignantly, and now more than a decade later we have the 'tumor.'

So when you show up and ask a simple yet bold question, the usual suspects inevitably toe the party line to back a horse that's not even running the same race, if you'll forgive me for mixing turns of phrase.

I feel compelled to say this because it seems like you honestly didn't know things were like this, or you earnestly thought things wouldn't boil down to a sub-sub-genre slap-fight if you did. Either way, I regret to see your idealism so predictably subverted.