Mortal Kombat 11 reviews and impressions: It has begun!!

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Once again people are bitching and moaning over fucking cosmetic micros-transactions that have no affect on the gameplay.
You don?t care. Don?t get mad because others don?t share your aggressive apathy. The game is being made less fun. Fuck that.
My brother bought the game he's having far more fun with it then Mortal Kombat X, and I intend to play with him.

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I am bit late on this, but it's still useful. Looks like I'm done with WB (though the last game i touched from them was Lollipop Chain, and they were just publishers for that one) and most Western publishers in general. This also why I can't get interested in fighting games much anymore.
Is it that impossible to ignore purely cosmetic lootboxes dude?


If you and I can ignore the problem, so what? We're not the majority. Some people can't control themselves or have gambling issues. You should already know the answer to your question. It's always been the same. Do you choose to acknowledge it?

Remember when it was fun to unlock costumes and not make it a long, tedious grin?
Remember when they weren't locked behind a paywall in a game that is already 60 bones?
Remember when games were about fun and mobiles gaming schemes?
Remember when characters that were in already established prior games not locked behind a DLC paywall?
I remember unlockables being obscenely bullshit difficult. Remember unlocking Mewtwo in Smash Bros Melee by leaving the game on 24 hours or playing 500 Vs Matches, and that's risking if you will lose the fight against Mewtwwo to unlock him? Don't get me started on Jax II and 3's unlockables.

I still think games are fun now.

Well sorry deadlines are a thing, and video game models are more sophisticated then ever. Right now in some cases it takes 3 types of actors to voice, animate, and model 1 video game character.
That's what I like to call making weak, *****-ass, excuses. If your making excuses and defending bullshit from the "AAAaaaaaaaeeee" industry, you are part of the problem. Because you sure as hell don't have a solution.

You have point about Melee, but not much else. I take that back, MK 11's is still worse by comparison The Jak series I don't know or care about. They're still more fun than the bullshit put out by WB, ActiBlizz, Ubisoft, EA, or 2K. There are fun games out there, that don't have the ugly crap those companies are constantly spewing.
I am not gonna depend solely on indie gaming for my gaming needs, and often times they just make inferior clones of already established AAA games.
 

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I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.
 

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More power to your brother, if he likes the game and is having fun. Though if he likes tedious grinding, I don't know. Problems are going to show up regardless. I am not trying to convince to not have your own fun or not purchase the game. The point is all of the bullshit that holds the game to its true potential. You're a smart guy Sam, don't blind yourself scummy practices. Especially when they are point blank in front of you.


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I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.
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1. You forgot, but your day is my day as well.

2. Check the video. They mention the positives about the gameplay, but the main issue highlights how major flaws hold the gameplay back and the overall fun factor.

3. Once again, if you love the game that is fine, but don't ignore obvious problem brought upon by the publisher. Nor should you blindly defend it. Your apathy is a corporate greed's best friend. If none of the microtransactions matter to you, then should not be complaining about others legit criticisms or grievances. You will only be fooling yourself. I have nothing left to add. You know what's best for you, but not for the rest of us and others.
 

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More power to your brother, if he likes the game and is having fun. Though if he likes tedious grinding, I don't know. Probelms are going to show up regardless. I am not trying to convince to not have your own fun or not purchase the game. The point is all of the bullshit that holds the game to its true potential. You're a smart guy Sam, don't blind yourself scummy practices. Especially when they are point blank in front of you.


Samtemdo8 said:
I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.
1. You forgot, but your day is my day as well.

2. Check the video. They mention the positives about the gameplay, but the main issue highlights how major flaws hold the gameplay back and the overall fun factor.

3. Once again, id you love the game that is fine, but don't ignore obvious problem brought upon by the publisher. Nor should blindly defend it. Your apathy is a corporate greed's best friend. If none of the microtranactions matter to you, then should not be complaining about others legit criticisms or grievances. You will only be fooling yourself. I have nothing left add. You know what's best for you, but not for the rest of us and others.
To me this is a practice I can easily ignore when I playing the game. I mean you are talking to a person that has spent hours playing Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch and I haven't payed a single dime on any of the microtransaction/unlockables. And I unlocked a ton of stuff just by playing the game. To me that sends a stronger message. Play the game, but don't pay a single dime on the microtransactions.

And I am tired of internet outrage culture and sentationalism controversy. Especially in videos games and worse for me when its against games I like and I clearly don't see it being the worse thing ever. I have been fully immersed in internet gaming culture for decades now, and nothing has changed. And I feel people have very short term memories about past gaming controversies. I mean please watch this video that fully explains my feelings:

 

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Samtemdo8 said:
CoCage said:
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More power to your brother, if he likes the game and is having fun. Though if he likes tedious grinding, I don't know. Probelms are going to show up regardless. I am not trying to convince to not have your own fun or not purchase the game. The point is all of the bullshit that holds the game to its true potential. You're a smart guy Sam, don't blind yourself scummy practices. Especially when they are point blank in front of you.


Samtemdo8 said:
I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.
1. You forgot, but your day is my day as well.

2. Check the video. They mention the positives about the gameplay, but the main issue highlights how major flaws hold the gameplay back and the overall fun factor.

3. Once again, id you love the game that is fine, but don't ignore obvious problem brought upon by the publisher. Nor should blindly defend it. Your apathy is a corporate greed's best friend. If none of the microtranactions matter to you, then should not be complaining about others legit criticisms or grievances. You will only be fooling yourself. I have nothing left add. You know what's best for you, but not for the rest of us and others.
To me this is a practice I can easily ignore when I playing the game. I mean you are talking to a person that has spent hours playing Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch and I haven't payed a single dime on any of the microtransaction/unlockables. And I unlocked a ton of stuff just by playing the game. To me that sends a stronger message. Play the game, but don't pay a single dime on the microtransactions.

And I am tired of internet outrage culture and sentationalism controversy. Especially in videos games and worse for me when its against games I like and I clearly don't see it being the worse thing ever. I have been fully immersed in internet gaming culture for decades now, and nothing has changed. And I feel people have very short term memories about past gaming controversies. I mean please watch this video that fully explains my feelings:

I've seen Internet gaming culture for a long time as well. Don't get me wrong I hate "outrage" and "panic" over minor stuff, but I call bad practices when I see them. Gaming can be overly negative (but most are within good reasons with how much the industry is fucked up), yet there are positives. You just have to make the effort to find them. And the effort ain't hard either. Most users like Yong Yeah, The Quartering, ReviewTechUSA, and CleainPriceGaming, etc. I avoid like plauge, because they either have nothing positive say (Yong), state the obvious in a "no-shit-sherlock-what-else-is-new", complte scumbags (Quartering), or are drama queens/schemers/liars (RTUSA & CPG).

My suggestion look for positives, but don't blatantly ignore actual issues going on in the culture or business side of things.


P.S - There are other AAA developer or publishers, not just indie, that know how to deliver on a quality game without fucking mess you see in the publishers I mentioned in my previous post. I've said what I needed, anything else would just be pointlessly going back and forth with you. I gave you all my reasons, but it's up to you to absorb that info and act on it or not. Just remember, it's your choice and your choice alone. Don't come back to me with "why wasn't I told?" or act all shocked when WB or another publisher does something even more scummy or worse. You will not get any sympathy from me.

Get back on topic with the gameplay, if you wish.
 
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PSA: Apparently MK11 has a potentially game-breaking bug involving a blindfold. Reddit Link
If you are playing in the krypt and use kenshis blindfold until you run out of souls and hit 0. THE GAME WILL BREAK, you wont be able to earn any rewards or complete any towers a prompt will show up saying "there was an error contacting the mortal kombat server" but youre connected to online and can play online matches

. Im not sure if it will happen to everyone but this has happened to me and the other people ive talked to with the issue also said they have 0 souls and we believe this is the cause.

The bug stops you from earning any rewards from a fight or a tower and stops u from progressing at all. This is GAMEBREAKING and netherrealm hasnt said anything or even acknowledged thats its happening.

Please spread the word and stop this from happening to other people and hopefully we can get a response to a fix for this!
 

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PSA: Apparently MK11 has a potentially game-breaking bug involving a blindfold. Reddit Link
If you are playing in the krypt and use kenshis blindfold until you run out of souls and hit 0. THE GAME WILL BREAK, you wont be able to earn any rewards or complete any towers a prompt will show up saying "there was an error contacting the mortal kombat server" but youre connected to online and can play online matches

. Im not sure if it will happen to everyone but this has happened to me and the other people ive talked to with the issue also said they have 0 souls and we believe this is the cause.

The bug stops you from earning any rewards from a fight or a tower and stops u from progressing at all. This is GAMEBREAKING and netherrealm hasnt said anything or even acknowledged thats its happening.

Please spread the word and stop this from happening to other people and hopefully we can get a response to a fix for this!
And there we go.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
To me this is a practice I can easily ignore when I playing the game. I mean you are talking to a person that has spent hours playing Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch and I haven't payed a single dime on any of the microtransaction/unlockables. And I unlocked a ton of stuff just by playing the game. To me that sends a stronger message. Play the game, but don't pay a single dime on the microtransactions.
You're not the intended target for aggressive monetization. We've heard from the horse's mouth that publishers make their money off a relative few players who spend big-- the so-called "whales", who are often people with gambling issues or issues with compulsive behaviour.

You can ignore the issue, sure, but it impacts the parts of the game you're playing, too: game balance is intentionally geared towards pushing people to spend.

And I am tired of internet outrage culture and sentationalism controversy. Especially in videos games and worse for me when its against games I like and I clearly don't see it being the worse thing ever. I have been fully immersed in internet gaming culture for decades now, and nothing has changed. And I feel people have very short term memories about past gaming controversies.
Hmm? I don't recall endless microtransactions, day-one patches, pre-orders, umpteen different "editions" for a single game, season passes, & "live services" in the SNES and N64/ Playstation eras.

Quite a lot has changed. Companies used to make a game and sell the game, and that was more or less the business model. Now, content is gated off to squeeze money from people, and the products suffer.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.

There is too much good to ignore about the game over some trivial cosmetic extras. They (WB mostly; not sure even Ed Boon has complete creative control under them) definitely deserve to get called out on it, but the effort put in by Netherrealm is commendable. Especially considering the kind of crunch [https://www.pcgamer.com/former-devs-speak-out-about-severe-crunch-at-mortal-kombat-studio/] they were apparently under not only for this game, but every game since MK9. The combat is better than ever, there is loads of good content that goes beyond any MTX bs, and the Krypt is like an action/adventure meta game loaded with nostalgia for fans in itself. Plus it sounds like they plan on supporting it for years this time instead of months.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I mean for goodness sake no one has talked about the actual gameplay? The combat, how characters work, that its the true core and meat of the game. The Krypt and Towers are just fluff.


Back in my day in the older Mortal Kombat games we had no Krypts and Challenge Towers. We either just played with each other in simple versus or do the arcade ladder. And we can still technically do that now, ignoring those 2 things entirely.

There is too much good to ignore about the game over some trivial cosmetic extras. They (WB mostly; not sure even Ed Boon has complete creative control under them) definitely deserve to get called out on it, but the effort put in by Netherrealm is commendable. Especially considering the kind of crunch [https://www.pcgamer.com/former-devs-speak-out-about-severe-crunch-at-mortal-kombat-studio/] they were apparently under not only for this game, but every game since MK9. The combat is better than ever, there is loads of good content that goes beyond any MTX bs, and the Krypt is like an action/adventure meta game loaded with nostalgia for fans in itself. Plus it sounds like they plan on supporting it for years this time instead of months.
Well it has the largest list of DLC Fighters according to the leak.

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And Terminator (either in Robot form or Arnold Schwartznegger I don't know) being the guest characters.
 

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And Terminator (either in Robot form or Arnold Schwartznegger I don't know) being the guest characters.
Bet Arnie's going to be pissed. MK's discovered a method of time travel that doesn't require you to strip naked. 0_0
 

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And Terminator (either in Robot form or Arnold Schwartznegger I don't know) being the guest characters.
Bet Arnie's going to be pissed. MK's discovered a method of time travel that doesn't require you to strip naked. 0_0
I always thought the clothes disintegrate.
 

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The plot is dumb. MK is taking too much garbage from DC. The time manipulation in MK2011 was fine cause of what it did, but this? This is dumb. Also the characters don't care what costume they wear when they talk. 'Modern' Sonya says things 'Past' Sonya should say and not her, which is dumb. Injustice cared about its alternate versions...oh and yeah, this plot is just Injustice...again.

Gear and power ups are dumb, go away.

The story-mode is too cutscene intensive. I swear its more movie than game. (That said, I would totally watch an ANIMATED Mortal Kombat movie)

I don't like that Scorpion's spear move isn't a free hit thing anymore. Now it is just an attack. It used to be the alternative to Sub-Zero's freeze and I can do whatever for a second attack.

Also they stretch the 'I was here the whole time, even though I was never mentioned before ever' stuff with this. Jade and Kotal are lovers since the start!? The fuck?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Once again people are bitching and moaning over fucking cosmetic micros-transactions that have no affect on the gameplay.
There was a time when fighting games had good costume content that wasn't behind a paywall. All you had to do was complete some trials for it. Now they put it behind lootboxes or they make the costume content hard to get, so it incentivizes you to pay for it.
 

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Once again people are bitching and moaning over fucking cosmetic micros-transactions that have no affect on the gameplay.
There was a time when fighting games had good costume content that wasn't behind a paywall. All you had to do was complete some trials for it. Now they put it behind lootboxes or they make the costume content hard to get, so it incentivizes you to pay for it.
To unlock Mileena's sexy costume in Mortal Kombat 9. You had to complete challenge tower 300:


Given the choice...I rather pay a buck for it or don't bother at all.
 

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I always thought the clothes disintegrate.
Depends on the setting.

Genisys has the characters always remove their clothes before time travel. In Dawn of Fate, the clothes just drop off Reese when he time travels. In SCC, the clothing apparently disintegrates.
 

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I bought MKX release date and as someone who only plays the campaign and arcade, I figured I'll just wait for the komplete pack to come out later down the line. Good to here it's solid though!
 

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I've played it now. It's really good, Story is a bit up itself, but I prefer it to MKX. 9 remains the best one.