Most Irritating Support Character?
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I'm telling ya, he isn't human, he is a robot.He just kills, like a well oiled machine. Your right about Alyx though, she hasafreakin gun, she seems to be pretty good with it, so why is she so rubbish!HuntrRose said:
Ack. Stepped in one of the biggest KOTOR 2 beartraps. Look, I know she was meant to be neutral, she probably even thought she was, but when she lures a Sith Lord to Telos to eat the whole planet, and murders three people right in front of you, my sympathy for her neutrality goes out of a window and down the gutter. If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, I'm going to treat it like a duck (and kill it with my lightsaber).P.Tsunami said:
Still, to stay on topic: I found Kreia to be irritating as a support character, but that was largely due to the ridiculous plot that required me to be totally oblivious, and her endless bloody pontificating. I couldn't even get away from her by leaving her on the ship, because she was stuck in my head complaining about everything I did and saying every decision I made was wrong. It's like having Morrigan in your party, only she's sitting on your shoulder throughout the entire game, criticising your sword technique and fashion sense.
And I forgot to mention Juhani from the original KOTOR. Yes. You are a sad cat lady whose world was destroyed. I get it. Now please, please STOP WHINING.
Annoying support characters?
-SWAT4. Your other officers.
There is no, I repeat, NO POSSIBLE WAY you can top these guys.
You stand ANYWHERE near them. You get "You're standing in my spot sir."
They refuse to obey orders when there is any known suspect active, even if he cannot reach or shoot at you (say, through a window. running down some stairs..etc).
That doesn't sound bad? Then consider this: Most missions will take upwards of 20 minutes to complete. If you screw up, be prepared to repeat this process.
Now I love SWAT4, but this one major nuisance is probably the only reason I don't play it as often anymore. It's like having someone poke you in the back of the head every two minutes, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Here's the story about the whole "Ivan sucking" matter.
In context...
Golden Sun 1: Ivan is a monster all the way up until the very end of the game (when equipment overtakes psyenergy attacks). He's really fast, so his spells will nearly always go first, and he has the deepest reservoir of power points, so he can do this often.
Late game, most of his best classes have access to Impact and High Impact and Ward.
His high speed lets him block nukes with Flash 100% of the time. Kite-Flash is powerful in any circumstance, and Ivan is the best suited to abusing this.
Plus he's a telepath. Which is just fun to dick around with.
Bottom line: Ivan is quite useful in Golden Sun 1 even up to the end.
Golden Sun 2...Sheba's better. In every conceivable way. But that's because of the Felix-Isaac-Mismatch. What is that? Well..look at the main roles every character in the original played..
-Isaac (earth) = Beatstick
-Garret (fire) = Beatstick
-Ivan (wind) = Spell slinger.
-Mia (water) = Healer.
In Golden Sun 2...
-Felix (earth) = Beatstick
-Jenna (fire) = Spell slinger
-Sheba (wind) = Spell slinger
-Piers (water) = Beatstick
The roles (by adept type) changed for half the party. So the other half (the Wind and Earth adepts) didn't. Why? Because Felix is the protagonist, and therefore must be a beatstick.
This leaves a void in the main role roster...that Sheba has to fill. So, Sheba, by default will be taking Ivan's place entirely in the same manner that Felix took Isaac's.
Thus, the Wind adepts become largely worthless since equipment is far more powerful.
However, Felix is always useful because he's the protagonist, and therefore a beatstick.
-SWAT4. Your other officers.
There is no, I repeat, NO POSSIBLE WAY you can top these guys.
You stand ANYWHERE near them. You get "You're standing in my spot sir."
They refuse to obey orders when there is any known suspect active, even if he cannot reach or shoot at you (say, through a window. running down some stairs..etc).
That doesn't sound bad? Then consider this: Most missions will take upwards of 20 minutes to complete. If you screw up, be prepared to repeat this process.
Now I love SWAT4, but this one major nuisance is probably the only reason I don't play it as often anymore. It's like having someone poke you in the back of the head every two minutes, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
Oh, I totally agree.Eukaryote said:
Here's the story about the whole "Ivan sucking" matter.
In context...
Golden Sun 1: Ivan is a monster all the way up until the very end of the game (when equipment overtakes psyenergy attacks). He's really fast, so his spells will nearly always go first, and he has the deepest reservoir of power points, so he can do this often.
Late game, most of his best classes have access to Impact and High Impact and Ward.
His high speed lets him block nukes with Flash 100% of the time. Kite-Flash is powerful in any circumstance, and Ivan is the best suited to abusing this.
Plus he's a telepath. Which is just fun to dick around with.
Bottom line: Ivan is quite useful in Golden Sun 1 even up to the end.
Golden Sun 2...Sheba's better. In every conceivable way. But that's because of the Felix-Isaac-Mismatch. What is that? Well..look at the main roles every character in the original played..
-Isaac (earth) = Beatstick
-Garret (fire) = Beatstick
-Ivan (wind) = Spell slinger.
-Mia (water) = Healer.
In Golden Sun 2...
-Felix (earth) = Beatstick
-Jenna (fire) = Spell slinger
-Sheba (wind) = Spell slinger
-Piers (water) = Beatstick
The roles (by adept type) changed for half the party. So the other half (the Wind and Earth adepts) didn't. Why? Because Felix is the protagonist, and therefore must be a beatstick.
This leaves a void in the main role roster...that Sheba has to fill. So, Sheba, by default will be taking Ivan's place entirely in the same manner that Felix took Isaac's.
Thus, the Wind adepts become largely worthless since equipment is far more powerful.
However, Felix is always useful because he's the protagonist, and therefore a beatstick.
Navi and the freaking owl from Zelda top my list, and then Vanille's voice and Liara from Mass Effect, I don't know why, she just pissed me off. Oh and Kairi from KH and that guy that yells at you when you're failing DDR. STFU! XD
I'm amazed no-one's mentioned him, but Cole from Gears of War 2 (I've not played the first one, but I imagine he was in that too).
In a game full of dreadful characters, he's the loudest, most roided-up macho chump of them all. So annoying.
Also, I have it on good authority that the other Gears laugh at him behind his back.
In a game full of dreadful characters, he's the loudest, most roided-up macho chump of them all. So annoying.
Also, I have it on good authority that the other Gears laugh at him behind his back.
The guy is pretty straight with it: she is useless in combat, annoying personality, and is there for no reason except to be there.tony2077 said:
the skipping part made it worse in so many ways... everytime the owl talks to you, you hammer on the A button to make him SKIP IT, and then a window pops up where he asks "do you understand" and the arrow is on the "no" button per default..Raiha said:navi was the first thing that popped into my mind upon reading the topic title.
no way, at least you could skip through most of the owls speeches throughout most of the game and ignore him. navi never left you alone.Maxieon said:Those who say that Navi is annoying, there is a character worse than that!
That damn owl annoyed more way more than Navi ever did!
you can guess what happens to me at least once everytime I encounter him -.-
the really evil part is, you get more furius in pressing the A button because youre already hearing it for the second time, so if you didn't remember how many text windows popped up, you fall for the same trick twice
