Agreed. It pretty much does what GTA does, only better and with no attempts of pretentious badly written satire. Just pure unadulterated fun in a neatly crafted fictional San Francisco. It looks great, plays great and it's just a lot of fun.trunkage said:
Seriously underrated. Proven by the fact that there's still no sequel despite how well the game's been received by most who've played it. It's a mistake not to make a sequel.trunkage said:
I never played K&L2, so I gave the ending a look and... LOL. At least the cutscene between the last moment of gameplay and the credits is merely 20 seconds long. Other M last cutscene is nearly 10 minutes of sudden but lingering frustration and boredom. The only positive on Other M is that there is post-game content with a much more satisfying extra boss battle and finale (like if the developers realized that the first ending wasn't good enough, so they put something for the audience to clean their palate with).McElroy said:
I'm aware of the false marketing and all that. In my view, that isn't an inditement on the game itself. Halo 5 similarly had a misleading marketing campaign, but that's a separate issue from the game's actual quality in my eyes.CoCage said:
I don't think one can say that Other M is all about gameplay. It's heavily story-focused to the point where you can't skip cutscenes. For me though, the paradox of Other M is that while it doesn't have a good story, it's not the only Metroid game where that can be said to be the case. Metroid didn't have a story worthy of note until Fusion.Dreiko said:
Are you referring to MB or Phantoon? Both are unsatisfying, but for different reasons - the former lacks mechanics, the latter is bereft of narrative weight.CaitSeith said:
And the worst is?
Only major problem with Fusion's story, in my opinion, was that Other M made it retroactively worse.Hawki said:
I do agree that Other M harms Fusion's story. Other M showcases Nightmare and that the Federation is breeding metroids...yet Samus is surprised in Fusion that "hey, the Federation is breeding metroids!" Other M has a lot of similar plot beats as Fusion, but Fusion not only did them first, but did them better.altnameJag said:
The varia suit issue didn't bother me either. It could be that Adam rightly judged that regenerating health paired with particularly ineffective enemies in that lava zone equaled there was very little threat there to face until the point at which he did authorize the varia suit's use. Or at least the writers made that correct judgment. That bit in the lava zone before she gets the varia suit was so easy to cruise through that the fact that Adam withheld the suit function from her didn't even occur to me as kind of a dick move until I saw all the blubbering about it online. And even after I thought "ehh, every other Metroid game has a bit where you have to traverse hazardous terrain before you get the upgrade that negates the damage you are getting." My biggest problem with Other M was waste of potential. Although it wasn't particularly interesting, the "deleter" sub-plot was crying out for some kind of investigation gameplay... maybe utilizing the scanning functions. And they basically just dropped that subplot.Hawki said:
MB, because Dreiko was talking about gameplay and it wouldn't had sucked so much if the narrative resolution as boss battle end had been satisfying; but instead, the gameplay during the battle built up to a climax that put Samus in an impotent position for the rest of the cutscene. That sense of personal accomplishment is red-taped out of the player's reach.Hawki said:
Correct. Coincidentally, both Other M and ME3 are sci-fi games with a lot of good parts and good gameplay moments (Vangard class in hardcore mode is awesome) that built up to a very unsatisfying resolution in a pretty uncharacteristic way for their own series.Hawki said:
It is not a separate issue when game launched with shitty AI, game breaking glitches, a campaign that turns into a bog standard COD game that just happen to have Xenos in it at the halfway point, and a shitty retconned, mess of a story. Colonial Marines is one of the most famous examples of broken now, fix it later mentality a lot of major publishers were doing in the 2010s. The class action lawsuit was the proper thing to happen, and I don't blame the consumers for doing so. If you like the game, that's fine, but I would not call the game underrated. Sega, 2K, and Randy Pitchford all fucked up. If there is any licensed Alien game that can be called underrated, it would be Alien vs. Predator (2010) by comparison. The Marine campaign was actually scary by comparison, and the game was actually functional despite the overall package being average. That game is always going to look way better by comparison.Hawki said:
One of the few times you have a legit point. The cease and desist order of the Metroid II fan remake was a big factor too. Despite the fact that Nintendo knew of the fan project for about a decade, and said nothing until the game actually launched was salt on the open wound. Honestly, from what I've seen, the fan remake is better than the official remake.Yoshi178 said:
I didn't say that, I said that Metroid as a franchise wasn't about story at all right up to Other M yet people reacted to it's (obviously significant) story like it was besmirching and ruining something that wasn't actually there but which was entirely in their own heads/imagination.Hawki said:
I think that had to do with Samus suddenly acting wierd because that's what the writers decided for her. She can't turn on her Varia Suit because Daddy(Adam) didn't order her to(despite not working for him or even asking "Hey, I'm gonna turn on the AC, because it's hot in here") and she acts like she's imprinted on a space jellyfish because it imprinted on her, which is just fucking wierd. The whole thing about her having PTSD over Ridley, who she fights like once a week on average, was also a bit strange.Dreiko said:
I don't know about calling that weird, because that implies it diverges from an established normal, which it does not. You can say you dislike it, but you can't just call it wrong (or call her not Samus like some did) because then you're comparing her to your imagined version of her and not any actual existing version of her from any games.Dalisclock said:
But there's absolutely no reason for Samus not to use the Varia function, or for Adam to withold it. Holding back on weapons? Sure. Holding back on a suit air-con? Not so much.Kyrian007 said:
Yeah. I mean, you can work out who the Deleter is, but it's as if they just lost interest in the plot somewhere along the way.
Like the Varia suit, I think Ridley could have worked if done better. I mean, he was the one who killed her parents, but the games have only ever acknowledged this I think twice, and both low-key. If you're delving into Samus's backstory in Other M (backstory that cuts out her time with the chozo entirely, but whatever), Ridley has a key role in it.Dalisclock said:
Was samus part of the military? I thought she was an independent contracter and regardless, why should she need to ask to use a DEFENSIVE part of HER suit? Essentially something that's a safety feature designed to keep her alive and does not affect the mission. It would be one thing if the order was "Don't fire missles in here because most things don't react well to explosions" but it's another saying she can't use a passive defensive system.Dreiko said:
False. The Metroid Prime series and Metroid Fusion established the normal of how the Universe sees Samus and Samus as a character respectively. There is a difference between a blank slate and ignoring the lore. That's why I wasn't surprised that Samus acted submissive under Adam's command (the execution was disappointing tho).Dreiko said:
