Most unlikable Final Fantasy main character?
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Well, I can't speak on behalf of most of the franchise since I have had limited experience, but as far as my least favorite character from the one Final Fantasy game I own - that being Final Fantasy IV for the Nintendo DS - that may require some thought.
My first inclination would be towards Edward given how in the grand scheme of things he is almost completely useless in battle. That said though, he is a hopeless romantic with a tragic back-story involving Anna and did help out Cecil with the Dark Elf.
My next possible candidate would be Kain, as he apparently has no ability to resist mind control even after being exposed more than once, but he seems to fill that somewhat Japanese archetype of the emotionally distant rival and was supportive of Cecil after the events in Mist, plus with the right abilities and equipment can be one of the most powerful characters in the party.
I am also tempted to use the twins Palom and Porum, but they are just kids and technically do play a role in the plot for the most part, and I do kind of like the Twincast magic for the novelty value.
Really, I kind of liked all of the characters from that game. So, for me at least, the character I could say then that I cared for the least was Fusoya.
Think about it: aside from spilling out exposition about the Lunarians and Cecil's back-story, Fusoya's only true purpose is to take Kain's place for a while until the Giant of Babil is destroyed before leaving with Golbez to attempt to fight Zemus. To me, he just seems like a placeholder and doesn't seem to evolve past that specific role. His design was fairly uninteresting given the other vibrant designs of the game, he had a single useful ability - Bless - and he already knows pretty much every White Magic and Black Magic spell in the game, which should be useful except Rydia's summons are far more effective and Rosa and Cecil already have a large library of magic anyway.
That isn't to say I have a seething hatred for him; I just don't think he was as important as he could have been.
My first inclination would be towards Edward given how in the grand scheme of things he is almost completely useless in battle. That said though, he is a hopeless romantic with a tragic back-story involving Anna and did help out Cecil with the Dark Elf.
My next possible candidate would be Kain, as he apparently has no ability to resist mind control even after being exposed more than once, but he seems to fill that somewhat Japanese archetype of the emotionally distant rival and was supportive of Cecil after the events in Mist, plus with the right abilities and equipment can be one of the most powerful characters in the party.
I am also tempted to use the twins Palom and Porum, but they are just kids and technically do play a role in the plot for the most part, and I do kind of like the Twincast magic for the novelty value.
Really, I kind of liked all of the characters from that game. So, for me at least, the character I could say then that I cared for the least was Fusoya.
Think about it: aside from spilling out exposition about the Lunarians and Cecil's back-story, Fusoya's only true purpose is to take Kain's place for a while until the Giant of Babil is destroyed before leaving with Golbez to attempt to fight Zemus. To me, he just seems like a placeholder and doesn't seem to evolve past that specific role. His design was fairly uninteresting given the other vibrant designs of the game, he had a single useful ability - Bless - and he already knows pretty much every White Magic and Black Magic spell in the game, which should be useful except Rydia's summons are far more effective and Rosa and Cecil already have a large library of magic anyway.
That isn't to say I have a seething hatred for him; I just don't think he was as important as he could have been.
I have only been able to play 3 FF games and they JUST SO HAPPEN to create a nice little triad of annoyingness: FF8, FF10, and FF12. Because of my somewhat limited expertise in all things final fantasy, I'll just stick to what I know.
Squall is a good character in a very interesting story but if, and only if, you take into consideration a interesting fan theory. (skip this to avoid any spoilers) Pretty much in a nutshell, Squall was dead from disk 2 onwards. If you can recall, at the end of Disk one, squall was hit by some magic by the sorceress and then falls off the float. After this, the party is taken to prison and the next time we see him he is waking up. He makes a comment about his wound having disappeared and it isn't mentioned again. Now, I could go into EXTREME details, but that would take a while. so, if you are interested in this, go here: http://squallsdead.com/
Tidus is pretty annoying due to his personality being that of a semi-spoiled brat. I generally hated him For just existing.
Vaan wasn't the main character of FF12. End of discussion.
Squall is a good character in a very interesting story but if, and only if, you take into consideration a interesting fan theory. (skip this to avoid any spoilers) Pretty much in a nutshell, Squall was dead from disk 2 onwards. If you can recall, at the end of Disk one, squall was hit by some magic by the sorceress and then falls off the float. After this, the party is taken to prison and the next time we see him he is waking up. He makes a comment about his wound having disappeared and it isn't mentioned again. Now, I could go into EXTREME details, but that would take a while. so, if you are interested in this, go here: http://squallsdead.com/
Tidus is pretty annoying due to his personality being that of a semi-spoiled brat. I generally hated him For just existing.
Vaan wasn't the main character of FF12. End of discussion.
All of the main characters in the Japanese Final Fantasy 3.
No, not 6 - with Terra, Locke, Sabin, Gau, Cyan and others.
Three. Yeah...that Final Fantasy. All of those main characters. I greatly dislike all of them.
No, not 6 - with Terra, Locke, Sabin, Gau, Cyan and others.
Three. Yeah...that Final Fantasy. All of those main characters. I greatly dislike all of them.
Everyone in the game had silly clothing. But anyway,dimensional said:
A guy on the verge of a breakdown, desperately staying positive and keeping himself sane by repeating that he'll be the hero and everyone will be saved (Lots of people are dense enough to miss this one for some reason)?
The guy who takes the blame for basically everything, even when it isn't his fault (Hope's mother wasn't his fault in any sense of the word and he tried to save Serah, while Lightning chose to ignore her and yet still blames Snow)?
The guy who gets verbally and physically abused for doing this, yet acts incredibly kind to everyone in his party, even after they punch/insult him or try to kill him?
What a DICK! He should be more like Lightning and be unhelpful, shove his mistakes and responsibilities onto others and assault them for it and yet still keep a condescending attitude towards the others for 90% of the ride. Oh and crippling depression too. Can't have a character that isn't gloomy in a Final Fantasy game. I hate nice, mostly selfless characters with a positive outlook. He's such an idiot.
And Snow has more of a personality than Vanille, Lightning or even Fang do. Hope is debatable, although that one is horribly executed. Sazh probably has the upper hand in this case. Seriously though, out of all the gloomy, self-centered, unhelpful dicks in the team, Snow is one of the few people who actually try to act like actual kind people. Besides, his role is more of a catalyst for the development of other characters, as his own personality is already a step above most other characters from the beginning anyway (and this finally finishes somewhere towards the ending).
Seriously though, fuck Lightning. When it comes to horrible personalities in Final Fantasy games, she somehow takes the title without too much difficulty. And I've played 8,10 and 11, so that says quite a bit.
As far as I'm aware Vaan was actually added at the last minute.krazykidd said:Honestly i can't stand Vaan . He is such a Boob. I mean seriously he has to be the most immature entitle , little piece of trash i have ever had as a main protagonist. He needs a good kick in the pants. ... But then again , Balthier keeps saying he is the main character so i'm not sure if this counts. The main character can't die right ?
So because of that technicallity i choose this.Sean Hollyman said:
He wasn't originally going to be the main character, Basch was.
Square is convinced their main demographic are people who like hyper feminine empty slates for protagonists.
I see we have different ideas about Snow to me he just seemed extremely weak and annoying throughout the game his constant Im gonna be a hero crap gets old really quickly if youre gonna be a hero just do it for gods sake stop talking about it but he dosent he starts the game saying im gonna be a hero and thats all he ever says throughout the game right up till it conclusion just like a broken record seriously dood get over yourself, theres a reason he gets abused throughout the game by Lightning and its because hes so unlikeable in every way (although maybe thats what they were going for if so bravo because they nailed it and hes a masterfully crafted character for this purpose), I wasnt particularly fond of Lightning either but at least she got on with stuff without spouting recycled garbage every other line and ocasionally you saw a different side to her. Sazh was awesome though.SpaceBat said:
Squall. Vann.
Both annoy me in different ways. Both do a terrible job at being relateable.
Anyone saying Zidane is obviously too much of a bizzarro person for us to ever be friends.
He ranks extremely high with me on the JRPG hero scale. Next to Lloyd Irving from Symphonia.
Cloud is weak but he doesn't quite come off as badly as the other two since the cast of 7 play off of Clouds weakness to almost reflect THEIR strength onto him.
Tidus, while doesn't appeal to me either, I did not play in English... when I did I saw just how terrifyiing the voice work was. And... yeah I didn't play far with it.
Both annoy me in different ways. Both do a terrible job at being relateable.
Anyone saying Zidane is obviously too much of a bizzarro person for us to ever be friends.
He ranks extremely high with me on the JRPG hero scale. Next to Lloyd Irving from Symphonia.
Cloud is weak but he doesn't quite come off as badly as the other two since the cast of 7 play off of Clouds weakness to almost reflect THEIR strength onto him.
Tidus, while doesn't appeal to me either, I did not play in English... when I did I saw just how terrifyiing the voice work was. And... yeah I didn't play far with it.
Im surprised there is not much mention of FFX-2!!
God those girls annoyed me so much! That was a real low point for square!! How did Yuna end up that annoying!?
God those girls annoyed me so much! That was a real low point for square!! How did Yuna end up that annoying!?
THAT THING NEVER HAPPENED. GOT IT.Elementary - Dear Watson said:
I time traveled and erased it from the timeline. Any memory you have of it is simply odd dreams of a parallel world.
(God I wish)
Main entries though I think, no one counts that as a thing.
He's annoying, he's literally the reason that I didn't finish the game. I literally hated him. He's the sort of person who I would either never associate with; if they refused to let that happen, I would really, really want to hurt them.alphamalet said:
Yeah, the whole affair wasn't conveyed well at all and I didn't believe for a second that he was any different when his mum was alive.
Also very stupid, and annoying. I mean, Snow was an awkward weirdo, who thought he was much cooler than he actually is, but he didn't kill the kids mum, she made her own choices.
It's realistic sure, but I don't want to have that shit in my games. I don't play games to listen to children whinge and complain. I could sit around on the train around 3:15 if I wanted that.
I don't know who all of those characters are, but I think the fact that I am now 21 not a pre-teen/teen probably has something to do with it. Also, Vivi was sad/shy, but wasn't pathetic.
And Cloud, and Garnet weren't whiny at all.
No. I hated him so much that I turned it off and haven't touched it since. I'm such a huge FF fan than I actually imported a Japanese Lightning Edition PS3, when it was stolen, I never got around to replacing it. I intended to fully, then right before I did I realised that not only do I not need a PS3, but FF13 was fucking aweful.
You're probably right about the writing being consistent, and I definitely agree that if hope's character had existed in FF1, I might have put up with him. I wouldn't have liked him, but I probably wouldn't have given up on the game due to him.
Well that's a bit of a logical fallacy.Druagamaniac said:
Or something.
Lets say my favorite thing about your games is you have awesome summons.
My least favorite thing is you have stupid characters.
I'm buying the game because the first thing outweighs the second thing.
Basically their games are doing well despite their actions, not because of them.
With the exception of 14 and 13 >_> <_<. But look at 13, it sold real well but was so bad they apologized for it and tried to make amends.
My problem wasn't with the flips and shit, I kinda liked that actually.dimensional said:
My problem was with the constant apologising for everything ever to everyone. It was over the fucking top. It became a drinking game.
Anytime someone apologises take a drink, if they actually say sorry: take 2, if it's not entirely clear why they are apologizing, take 3.
You won't make it past half way.
Going by protagonists only: Tidus
He's incredibly stupid but not in any charming way because he just refuses to stop whining.
Laguna was a doofus, but he was a loveable doofus who wanted to be a nice guy.
Tidus is like an annoying 11 year old trapped in a slightly older body. And you're stuck with that asshole for nearly all of FF10.
And I loved Freya. I actively looked forward to seeing her (so naturally, she's out of the party for half the damn game) and half the scenes she is in are great. Especially when she's chewing Zidane out for being dense.
The only comments I'll make about FF12's cast is that you're basically correct. They were so bland and forgettable that it's not worth getting bothered over. However, I will say that Vaan immediately reminded me of Tidus (the look, the "Stupid teen" attitude..just toned down by 90%) and Lightning would later remind me of Ashe. A lot.
It's like a Line of Succession, but for Suckage.
He's incredibly stupid but not in any charming way because he just refuses to stop whining.
Laguna was a doofus, but he was a loveable doofus who wanted to be a nice guy.
Tidus is like an annoying 11 year old trapped in a slightly older body. And you're stuck with that asshole for nearly all of FF10.
Huh. Exactly my thoughts about FF9. To this day, I do not know for certain what it was about Zidane that pissed me off; I cannot rationalize it. By all accounts, I should have liked him a lot more as he's similar to Locke, one of my favorite characters from FF6.Tallim said:
And I loved Freya. I actively looked forward to seeing her (so naturally, she's out of the party for half the damn game) and half the scenes she is in are great. Especially when she's chewing Zidane out for being dense.
The only comments I'll make about FF12's cast is that you're basically correct. They were so bland and forgettable that it's not worth getting bothered over. However, I will say that Vaan immediately reminded me of Tidus (the look, the "Stupid teen" attitude..just toned down by 90%) and Lightning would later remind me of Ashe. A lot.
It's like a Line of Succession, but for Suckage.