Motion Controls: A rant

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Dr. Awesome Face

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I know that there have probably been a million of these threads overall, but there hasn't been one too recently so I will take that oppurtunity to spread my opinion on motion controls like a plague.
Motion contols are a massive waste of time, effort and money. Why? here's why:

The Wii: Nintendo's latest console is where this all started. With the announcement that the Wii would be using motion controls, many people were dying to give it a try and experience the incredible immersion that the Wii falsely advertised. Wii Sports was a great start and I still consider Wii sports to be a fairly good game when I occasionally play it when my cousin (who damn near loves the thing) comes over for a visit. Wii sports showed the potential that the wii had. Gamers bought it, casual gamers bought it, people who had never owned a console in their lives bought it. Nintendo was raking in the cash worldwide, and started producing games almost exclusively for this casual demographic. This was back in 2006/2007. Now in 2010 Microsoft and Sony have gotten greedy and want a slice of that big ol' money pie.

The Price problem: Since all the casual gamers have wiis, why would they want to buy the atrociously expensive Kinect, or the confusing and overall expensive PlayStation Eye, two move conrollers and move navigator, all on top of the console itself. They may as well stick with the wii which is suiting them just fine. Then there's the hardcore gamers. Why would core gamers want to pick up Kinect for $200AUD when it has literally no fun, non-wii looking games that make use of the technology? They wouldn't. And then there is the Move which is trying to appeal to the core gamers as well with games like "The Fight" and "The Shoot". But once again the aforementioned controller problem and price problem rears its ugly head. The Move starter kit which contains the PlayStation Eye and one of the lollipop move controllers. This is about $100AUD. The term starter kit is completely redundant however as we've been told that some games will require two lollipop contollers instead of just one, an extra one costs about $70AUD. And we've also been told that some games will require the navigation controller which consts $50AUD. This entire concept is so confusing and it means that in order to play every game on the Move's set list it would cost $220AUD, or $180USD. That is a lot of money to spend on a something that is only slightly more advanced than the Wii which is only a bit more expensive.

Playing on the couch: It was recently discovered (I can't remember where I found this it was either on GameTrailers or here on the escapist) that it would actually be impossible to sit down while playing Kinect, because it cannot register a person unless it can see their entire body standing in front of it. That is not a good point in its favour. I don't know about you but when I'm playing a game it is to chill out after a long day, or just to have some fun. To do this I sit on either my desk chair or in my recliner or lie down on the couch. What do these have in commmon? Apart from my fingers I am barely moving, I'm in a relaxed position and most importantly I am not standing up. From what we've seen of Kinect it is very involving and looks rather exhausting to play for more than five minutes. How is this going to revolutionise gaming?

Say what you will about my opinions on these motion controllers. But my evidence supports the theory that Kinect and Move will ultimately fail. To start with they will probably sell rather well. But then after some of Microsofts characteristic tecnical issues, Kinect will start losing followers and eventually (hopefully) dribble away. Move has a better chance if they can give a clear indication of which games will use which controllers, but at the end of the day it will end up less successful than the wii. Why? Because the Wii has become a brand. Even people who have never played games in their lives no what the Wii is, hell those people prbably now own wiis. The Wii is the motion control behemoth, Microsoft and Sony are too late to the party, and don't stand much of a chance.

In Conclusion, Microsoft and Sony are doing pretty well for themselves at the end of the day, but Nintendo is the champion in the money grabbing frenzy. They may have spent the last couple of years hanging out with casual gamers making incredibly stupid games, but they've pulled themselves back with the 3DS and all the new titles that were announced at E3. Obviously they're about to make another mistake with the retarded sounding vitality sensor thing. But all those monumentally dumb games have moved away from Nintendo and joined Microsoft to fill out the lauch line up for Kinect. I'm not going to tell you not to buy Kinect or Move, but the fact is I shouldn't have to. The facts speak for themselves. And if you need more evidence to not buy Kinect, well......Kinectimals.

Actually speaking of Kinectimals, it was recently discovered that Kinectimals does not use the same technology as Milo, which now will not be released. Does anyone else get the suspicion that Milo wasn't actually a game? Like it was just a really well timed and acted pre-rendered video?

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Lust

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I wasn't pulled in at all by this new motion gaming that sony and microsoft are delving into either. Oh well. That said, I wants to see that 3DS in action. :p
 

migo

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Certain types of games are better suited to certain controls. I can definitely see first person shooters being much better using motion controls to aim, it's perfect for light gun games anyway. Echochrome II will also make perfect use of it. Okami's a perfect example too. Not sure I dig Kinect for gaming purposes, but I think the Wii and Move will have a few games where it actually works, and as long as you don't try to force it where it shouldn't go, things will work fine.
 

The Bandit

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Dr. Awesome Face said:
and all the new titles that were announced at E3.
I forgot everything I read before this sentence and didn't continue reading. I think my brain literally shut down for a few minutes. Remaking the same old games repeatedly does not constitute new games. Nintendo isn't even trying anymore, they're literally releasing every one of their previous titles on every new console.

On topic- I don't really understand what you're going for here. It's like you're trying to convince people not to buy motion controls, which blows my mind. If the product is shitty, people won't need convincing. If you're wrong and Kinect is actually good (Move won't be good, it's the same thing as the Wii), then that's a good thing, right? It's like trying to convince people that burning their house down is a bad thing.

Also, Milo is being released, just not in 2010.
 

Sougo

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I don't care for the motion controllers. I'm probably not gonna get one. That aside, noone is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to get one.

The only thing I don't want happening is the quality of games declining because of these motion controllers.
 

Dr. Awesome Face

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The Bandit said:
Dr. Awesome Face said:
and all the new titles that were announced at E3.
I forgot everything I read before this sentence and didn't continue reading. I think my brain literally shut down for a few minutes. Remaking the same old games repeatedly does not constitute new games. Nintendo isn't even trying anymore, they're literally releasing every one of their previous titles on every new console.

On topic- I don't really understand what you're going for here. It's like you're trying to convince people not to buy motion controls, which blows my mind. If the product is shitty, people won't need convincing. If you're wrong and Kinect is actually good (Move won't be good, it's the same thing as the Wii), then that's a good thing, right? It's like trying to convince people that burning their house down is a bad thing.

Also, Milo is being released, just not in 2010.
Read the title. This was a rant and that was me ranting. Now that I've actually read all the bile I gave out its easy to see that my points did come across that way. If I'm ranting I usually am trying to convince people not to do something. I was mostly gathering points together in my head and putting them on the internet. In short, the rant was more for my sake than anybody elses.

As for the arguably new titles being released from Nintendo I was referring to the "new" metroid, donkey kong, kirby, zelda etc. Metroid: Other M is new, its the first non-prime metroid we've had in a while, and it uses fixed camera third person mixed with a little first person. Donkey Kong Country: Returns is supposed to be new, however after watching the E3 2010 coverage on it, I'm going to assume it will basically be Donkey Kong Country but with Wiimote waggles. Kirby Epic Yarn is completely new, and the first Kirby we've had in yonks. And then there's legend of zelda: Skyward Sword.......yeah that will be the same as every other zelda. But then there is also Epic Mickey and the new Kid Icarus (yeh its on the 3DS but its still Nintendo).

Just did a quick google search about Milo. It is still in development and won't be released this year. On that note, sure it shows off fancy technology, but how much entertainment will Milo really provide?
 

TheTim

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i don't mind wii's motion controls, as they spawned many amazing games,
but the other companies controls can go to hell.
 

Dr. Awesome Face

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Sougo said:
The only thing I don't want happening is the quality of games declining because of these motion controllers.
I agree. Games like Super Mario Galaxy were incredbly good (still haven't played the new one yet) but I felt that they suffered abit from the controls. If Kinect, or move, do take off, and they start implimenting them into new games (rather than just re-releasing games for Move, as Sony is doing) then I still want to have the choice of whether or not I use them. Lets say for example, in Dead Space you push in one of the analog sticks so that a little pathfinder will appear and show you where you need to go next. Imagine if Kinect would force you to stand up and put you palm out facing down, rather than simply pressing a button?