MovieBob leaving The Escapist
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My word...I... I don't know what to say. So many emotions are flowing through my body at this moment. So sad. I guess, well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6b3V2MNxQ
http://youtu.be/PgBYGvImmvY?t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daSG5fwdA7o
He won't be missed. I do worry about what this means for the site as a whole, though. I've seen this happen before, and it didn't go anywhere good. I hope the new new editor wasn't made captain of a sinking ship. Hopefully things may work out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6b3V2MNxQ
http://youtu.be/PgBYGvImmvY?t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daSG5fwdA7o
He won't be missed. I do worry about what this means for the site as a whole, though. I've seen this happen before, and it didn't go anywhere good. I hope the new new editor wasn't made captain of a sinking ship. Hopefully things may work out.
Good. I've grown weary of his shit slinging, popular media insulting and fauxpologizing ways. It's not that hard to find places that do the same things he did, but without the hipster lens.
I used to enjoy the content he slung out, but ever since his love letter of an article about Sarkeesian and him all but throwing rose petals wherever Faraci stepped (or in this case, tweeted), he had gone from someone I respected to someone whose words I wouldn't acknowledge if it meant saving my life. Then again, he'd probably enjoy seeing me die, since I'm everything he hates in a human.
tl;dr - I'm glad his ass was canned.
I used to enjoy the content he slung out, but ever since his love letter of an article about Sarkeesian and him all but throwing rose petals wherever Faraci stepped (or in this case, tweeted), he had gone from someone I respected to someone whose words I wouldn't acknowledge if it meant saving my life. Then again, he'd probably enjoy seeing me die, since I'm everything he hates in a human.
tl;dr - I'm glad his ass was canned.
Patreon is what is causing the shift. If you have enough of a following you can break off and go to them and live off donations for your work. The Escapist isn't the only site who have lost talent to them Machinima and TGWTG have lost talent to Patreon as well. Why split profits with a site or youtube group when you can get the majority of them with Pat only taking a small cut?TakerFoxx said:
My Sentiments exactly his attitude was pretty poisonous and while his loss is a blow I cant help think that it's ultimately for the best.Johnny Novgorod said:
Want to know what I was chanting before I click on Escape To The Movies today? "Please no SJW. Please No SJW. Please No SJW." Sure enough. He went into another social justice rant. Then he backtracked and say he really enjoyed the movie.
AAARRRRGGGHHH!!! Good Riddance!
Want to know why that is so annoying? Imagine being in a restaurant. The whole staff berates you about social issues the whole time that you are there. It won't make a very good dining experience. So, why do critics (movies, videogames, etc.) think it is such a great idea to needlessly insert their political opinions in their reviews. If a movie is about a social issue, then it's fair game to comment about it. Even then, the main focus should be on whether the movie is any good or not.
I'm on the same page with a lot of people here. The Escapist really need to start putting up new content to replace the ones that they had let go.
AAARRRRGGGHHH!!! Good Riddance!
Want to know why that is so annoying? Imagine being in a restaurant. The whole staff berates you about social issues the whole time that you are there. It won't make a very good dining experience. So, why do critics (movies, videogames, etc.) think it is such a great idea to needlessly insert their political opinions in their reviews. If a movie is about a social issue, then it's fair game to comment about it. Even then, the main focus should be on whether the movie is any good or not.
I'm on the same page with a lot of people here. The Escapist really need to start putting up new content to replace the ones that they had let go.
Well, I'm surprised by that. I have had my fair share of complaints about how ridiculously left he is and how he panders to a certain crowd... but I still value what he says. We all need opinions that are opposite of what we think to keep us grounded. And if you are open minded then even if you don't end up agreeing with someone else's opinion, you still have plenty to learn from things they say. I'll miss his videos and articles. Also... what the hell are they going to fill in his Tuesday and Friday videos with? I almost have no reason to come here all the time with all the talent that has left here recently.
Well, if they lose Yahtzee, the I will have zero reason to come back here. Jesus Christ this place bled like it's got talent haemophilia.
Not shedding a tear to be honest. He's been going increasingly off the rails for the past months and I have been avoiding his material here. His video's and column were pretentious, badly written, poorly produced and frankly often short-sighted, the interesting insights from his older reviews was long gone.
I agree the Escapist do need to fill this hole in content, because he produced like what, 3 times a week? They can only go up from Bob imo.
I agree the Escapist do need to fill this hole in content, because he produced like what, 3 times a week? They can only go up from Bob imo.
You should always respect the opinions of others, but there is a tipping point where its like "Dude you are constantly talking shit about gamers and saying some pretty nasty things on Twitter and I don't think they are going to do my website any favors."Baresark said:
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I don't know. I generally dislike the idea as one should 'celebrate' someone they dislike being taken off a site. Bob, for all of his soapboxing and political talking, was someone I generally liked. He was a constant well of knowledge and even if I disagreed on him with something, he provided a perspective that I generally liked.
I loved Schlocktober, I loved listening to his Escape to the Movies articles, I loved listening to the background and history of Marvel and DC comics and how they related to the live action movie release this week and I really loved his Big Picture shows. Now, I'm not entirely sure if I will come to the Escapist, because I usually came for his shows. Even if Bob's opinions drove me crazy sometimes, I had respect for him. I'd rather have a critic who insults my tastes and makes me think rather than a critic how gives me a pat yay/nay response. That's more than I can say for a lot of critics nowadays.
Best of luck, Mr. Bob "Moviebob" Chipman. I wish you well.
I don't know. I generally dislike the idea as one should 'celebrate' someone they dislike being taken off a site. Bob, for all of his soapboxing and political talking, was someone I generally liked. He was a constant well of knowledge and even if I disagreed on him with something, he provided a perspective that I generally liked.
I loved Schlocktober, I loved listening to his Escape to the Movies articles, I loved listening to the background and history of Marvel and DC comics and how they related to the live action movie release this week and I really loved his Big Picture shows. Now, I'm not entirely sure if I will come to the Escapist, because I usually came for his shows. Even if Bob's opinions drove me crazy sometimes, I had respect for him. I'd rather have a critic who insults my tastes and makes me think rather than a critic how gives me a pat yay/nay response. That's more than I can say for a lot of critics nowadays.
Best of luck, Mr. Bob "Moviebob" Chipman. I wish you well.
Not going to lie, I'm somewhat glad he's gone.
I remember following him when he first started the game overthinker on youtube and, regrettably, followed suit with a lot of the crap he was spouting. The dudebro stuff was one thing that came to mind for me believing.
When he made the jump to screw attack, I followed suit and soon stopped following. Here's when he started becoming something of a nutjob and I sort of disregarded him when he claimed that if anyone didn't like Metroid Other M you were racist towards the japanese because of something regarding traditional values implanted in Samus.
When he came to the escapist, I rolled my eyes and would occasionally dip into some content every few months to see if he became sane.
He was pretty damn good when it came to movies and comics but with gaming I just kind of wish someone'd tape his mouth shut. The whole thing regarding how he said that Halo was inspired by Nazism that someone brought up above comes to mind, as does the entire ME3 debacle.
And especially these past few months with gamergate and #zerobiscuit, I honestly don't have much sympathy seeing him let go.
I remember following him when he first started the game overthinker on youtube and, regrettably, followed suit with a lot of the crap he was spouting. The dudebro stuff was one thing that came to mind for me believing.
When he made the jump to screw attack, I followed suit and soon stopped following. Here's when he started becoming something of a nutjob and I sort of disregarded him when he claimed that if anyone didn't like Metroid Other M you were racist towards the japanese because of something regarding traditional values implanted in Samus.
When he came to the escapist, I rolled my eyes and would occasionally dip into some content every few months to see if he became sane.
He was pretty damn good when it came to movies and comics but with gaming I just kind of wish someone'd tape his mouth shut. The whole thing regarding how he said that Halo was inspired by Nazism that someone brought up above comes to mind, as does the entire ME3 debacle.
And especially these past few months with gamergate and #zerobiscuit, I honestly don't have much sympathy seeing him let go.
I suspect that the truth is rather carefully being parsed there. Does it have anything to do with Gamergate? No not really. Does it have anything to do with Bob going on yet another Twitter rant yesterday calling gamers "Sub Human Shits" and implying they are for the most part rapists? After being repeatedly warned that the things he says and does on Twitter have strong negative impacts on the site, the community and the reader base? I'm going to go with yes on that one. The fact that Archon responded to his "Sub Human" Tweet last night and voiced his own opinion on the matter seems pretty telling. I mean at the end of the day no matter how you slice it "Gamers" all Gamers, Even the Gamergaters, are the audience around here. They are the consumer. They are the people that this site gets paid to attract and put ads in front of. They are the marketing target demographic. The staff and advertisers really prefer that when said audience arrives they are not carrying torches and pitchforks.Sniper Team 4 said:
Part of the changes at the Escapist reflect a desire to take the consumer suggestions to heart, make changes, move past Gamergate, and return to a normal civil state of doing business. This is hard to do when one of your more prominent contributors is peeing on the audience.
I'm sure at the end of the day the reason for his departure is not officially Gamergate. It is likely "why can't you do the most basic simple thing we, your employer asks, and just act professionally and not bully and abuse the customers? We kind of need them."
This especially, he was at least pretty knowledgeable on movies and comics. Gaming, however, he knew next to nothing about and yet seemed to want to speak up about. I read parts of his book on SMB 3 and it's not at all compelling or well-written, nor is most of it even actually about Mario.Volothos said:
Oh and remember when he declared PC gaming dead in 2011? The guy is clueless on gaming.
I agree with you, it gets annoying when people are like that, but that does not mean they do not have anything to contribute. And I also tend to ignore the things as they become more extreme to about things. I would like to see as close to actual sexual equality in gaming that we can get, but I know not all developers and gamers are misogynists who want to exclude women just because.Thorn14 said:
Oh my fuck, I remember that. It was something about how PC Gaming would shift away from desktops to more laptop use. No. No, I say!l0lwut said:
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To echo the sentiments of many in this thread, good riddance. Bob 'no such thing as bad tactics, only bad targets' Chipman has been a toxic liability for too long. He has proven himself to be the worst kind of bigoted ideologue (as that tweet I referred to shows), and I hope he now fades into complete obscurity like he deserves.