Music Genres You Can't Stand

[Arkhangelsk]

I like country, when there's no song (unless it's dark country, like Woven Hand). For my country needs, I go to guitar virtuoso John 5. But, I don't think I hate any specific genres. It all depends on the song itself.

Oh wait, I just thought of the world's most horrid genre: Crunkcore.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

That's kind of a meaningless statement because you could in fact say that about almost any genre from country to screamo to rap to death metal to opera. Every genre has its specific vocal quirks, none of them are "bad musicianship", they are in fact very appropriate musicianship for that style. Vocal "musicianship" isn't about being technically the best, it's about being able to master the specific techniques of a style in such a way that compliments the music the most effectively.

Not entirely true. Proper vocal technique is very important if the singer doesn't want to wind up unable to use their vocal chords at all. Country technique in particular is pretty bad with this, because the nasally sound they get is an indication that they aren't opening their mouth enough to lift their soft pallet, a very big no-no.

On topic: I really can't stand any punk-derived genre of music, and that goes doubly for screamo and metal core. The reason I can't stand punk is that it was a rebellion against the need for professional musicians to be technically skilled with their instruments. It's part of the modern culture of laziness, and a part that, as a musician, I really can't stand. As for why screamo and the various other hardcore punk genres bother me, it's because they've been frequently confused for metal in recent years, giving music that actually requires a level of virtuosity unseen outside of jazz these days a bad name as a genre for lazy people to go "chugga chugga chugga COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE chugga chugga chugga..."

In all my years of singing, teaching, performing, industry work, etc, I'm yet to meet one person who destroyed their singing voice by singing country music, so I think that's a bit of a non-issue. Also, not all country musicians go for that nasally vocal sound, maybe in the American scene they do, however where I live the country musicians tend to sing in something pretty close to their regular speaking accents.

The whole concept of punk as a musical reaction to technical music was that people with creative ideas shouldn't be excluded from making music just because they didn't also have technical ability, and that it was ideas that represented the true seed of musical innovation, not how many notes you could play at one time, or how fast you could go. I think that was definitely a good thing for popular music as a whole to realise, and a lot of musical styles that exist today probably wouldn't even exist without some sort of punk movement having happened.

Fair enough about country music. My point was more that there is such a thing as correct and incorrect vocal technique, and if you try to do it wrong while singing professionally, it can kill your vocal chords. It doesn't have to be proper classical style, but there are some points of technique that need to be followed. As far as your comments about the punk revolution, it was as much a reaction to prog-rock as it was metal. Prog is entirely about ideas, the ability to play fast is just something that opens those ideas up. Of course, I've never been a lyrics guy so much as an overall sound guy, so excuse me if I don't care about lyrical ideas so much as musical ones.

Besides, we've always had music that was about ideas; I'm pretty sure Bob Dylan was still current during the original punk movement, for example. At any rate, I think trying to go pro when the technical ability isn't there yet is just lazy, and not something to be lauded. If you've got a type of music that really is all about the message, like the aforementioned Bob Dylan, fine. But the lack of musicianship is the message of punk. Besides that, the stuff that masquerades as punk today is just pop under another name. It's gained exactly the sort of stagnance that the original movement was complaining about in the mainstream rock of the day, without even the excuse of punk requiring large amounts of skill to play.

 

[the Dept of Science]

On topic: I really can't stand any punk-derived genre of music, and that goes doubly for screamo and metal core. The reason I can't stand punk is that it was a rebellion against the need for professional musicians to be technically skilled with their instruments. It's part of the modern culture of laziness, and a part that, as a musician, I really can't stand. As for why screamo and the various other hardcore punk genres bother me, it's because they've been frequently confused for metal in recent years, giving music that actually requires a level of virtuosity unseen outside of jazz these days a bad name as a genre for lazy people to go "chugga chugga chugga COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE chugga chugga chugga..."

Accusing punk of lacking virtuosity is missing the point somewhat. While virtuosity is prized by metal and jazz, punk promoted other traits instead. Pop songwriting (Buzzcocks, the Ramones), lyrical ability (Patti Smith, Nick Cave), innovation (Television, Talking Heads, Suicide, the Slits), "realness", energy, DIY spirit (Minor Threat/Fugazi). Technical skill is neither necessary nor sufficient for good music.
Anyway, the initial punk wave gave way to derivative genres that did require skill, even though it didn't manifest itself in guitar solos (appart from Television: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlbunmCbTBA). Sonic Youths alternative tunings and unusual time signatures, the Pop Group's free jazz channeling punk, PiL's krautrock influenced songs, My Bloody Valentine's intensely polished shoegaze. Heck, even metal bands like Motorhead were partly influenced by the punk movement.

 

[General Ken8]

I don't know, I GUESS I can stand just about every genre of music, but I don't really enjoy modern country, hip-hop that uses just autotune and fart noises, and, well, this monstrosity (I've used this video before, but the overall crap-factor of this song never gets old.)

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

On topic: I really can't stand any punk-derived genre of music, and that goes doubly for screamo and metal core. The reason I can't stand punk is that it was a rebellion against the need for professional musicians to be technically skilled with their instruments. It's part of the modern culture of laziness, and a part that, as a musician, I really can't stand. As for why screamo and the various other hardcore punk genres bother me, it's because they've been frequently confused for metal in recent years, giving music that actually requires a level of virtuosity unseen outside of jazz these days a bad name as a genre for lazy people to go "chugga chugga chugga COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE chugga chugga chugga..."

Accusing punk of lacking virtuosity is missing the point somewhat. While virtuosity is prized by metal and jazz, punk promoted other traits instead. Pop songwriting (Buzzcocks, the Ramones), lyrical ability (Patti Smith, Nick Cave), innovation (Television, Talking Heads, Suicide, the Slits), "realness", energy, DIY spirit (Minor Threat/Fugazi). Technical skill is neither necessary nor sufficient for good music.
Anyway, the initial punk wave gave way to derivative genres that did require skill, even though it didn't manifest itself in guitar solos (appart from Television: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlbunmCbTBA). Sonic Youths alternative tunings and unusual time signatures, the Pop Group's free jazz channeling punk, PiL's krautrock influenced songs, My Bloody Valentine's intensely polished shoegaze. Heck, even metal bands like Motorhead were partly influenced by the punk movement.

Read what you quoted again. I accused screamo and the various -core genres of giving actual metal a bad name, because the general public hears the screaming coupled with repetitive guitar riffs, and assumes that A.) it must be metal, and B.) because it's repetitive and takes little technical skill, metal must be the same way. Deathcore is probably the worst offender here. I don't think virtuosity is or should be a requirement to make good music; competency on one's instrument, however, is.

As for your youtube link, The song is interesting, but the only thing about it that stylistically says "punk" to me are the slurred vocals and the repetitive sounding verses. The rest of it sounds like a cross between 60's psychedelia and Southern rock. Wikipedia does list Television as a punk group -- although they're also listed as proto-punk, which fits the article better -- but regardless, they were an early example, and most of the influences listed are 60's rock groups. Punk as a whole went in a decidedly different direction.

 

[FolkLikePanda]

Rave- I cor stand the bloody shite: untsuntsuntsuntsunts WAAWAAAWAAAAAA!!! (SHUT UP!). At me school rpom I sat down and refused to look a prat dancing to that shite. And I hate bands who class themeselves as rock and play that shite like Pendulum and Hadouken, burn the bastards at the stake the fuckers!

Screamo/Death Metal - BLARG! RAW RAW! LKFJASLKNGKJANVKSANVKJS! Makes me want to overdose on aspirin.

Country - So boring.

Pop - Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and most pop singers (though Lady GaGa does some good songs, they're not my cup of tea) ought to be thrown into the Sun by Chuck Norris

Nearly everything else I can stand.

 

[DSK-]

Drum and bass with MC's - or alternatively Trance live sets with MC's who love the sound of their voice. One of the reasons I got put off from D'n'B was that MC'ing was the in thing a few years ago (or so it seemed) and it drove me up the wall.

In a few trance sets that I have of Trance Energy 2009 there is an MC that does THE SAME DAMN THING through 4 different DJ sets. Yes! lets just say "Dee Jay! Paul van Dyk!" for no apparent reason! lets say "Break it down and let the bass line getcha!" again and again!

sigh sorry about that. It completely spoils the music. I don't mind most music genres; if I like a song or track of a particular genre, it doesn't necessarily mean I like the genre. I'm eclectic I suppose (thanks Whoopi Goldberg for that word!)

 

[Rarhnor]

I like stuff...but i don't like Pop in general

 

[bodyguarddied]

I have very limited tastes. I only really like hard rock, any sort of metal and classical. I cannot stand pop or techno. The rest is tolerable at best.

 

[Lulzovich]

I looked through the whole of this thread and have seen barely any examples of people saying that they dislike a genre without at least some degree of ignorance.

No genre's of music are inherently better than the others. All genres have a small fraction of people actually worth listening to and a massive amount of stuff that is in one way or another, bad. Pretty much every example I have seen has been people judging it by the bad majority, that even their pet genres have.

Saying rap is all "talking over a shitty beat" about how big your dick is is, or country is just rednecks singing about being rednecks is like saying metal is all people that can't sing, growling about how great it is to kill people over droning guitar noise, or jazz is just people making stuff as they go along. Its just a crude stereotype not held by any people that actually listen to the genre.

For example, there are plenty of rappers who are witty, articulate and possess a high degree of verbal dexterity who rap about pretty much any topic. Even if they do sing about more stereotypical rap stuff, does that make it bad? Maybe it means I relate to it less, but, I can still find Jay-Z or NWA enjoyable. It would be wrong to tar them with the Soulja-Boy/50 Cent brush.
Similar points can be made about country, RnB, metal, electronic music, indie rock and pretty much every other genre that people have been bashing. Appart from crunkcore (although, in my head, I can imagine there being a good crunkcore band, it's just a long way off).

Quoted For Truth.

As for me, I can't seem to find anything that I like in crunkcore, I've a lot of different artist I can't even remember how they're called now (except for brokencyde, because they were mentioned a dozen times now) a listen but it all sounded equally bad to me, just not my cup of tea, I guess. Also, I can't seem to stand any emo stuff, prolly 'cause it's "rich" with whiny. And gangsta rap. Most of their lyrics are demeaning or just plain pretentious. And some of those bands that literally just bash their instruments randomly without any coherent melody or anything that seems like music with only one goal: to sound loudest possible. They consider it art or something, but I shiver at the very thought of some guys I saw at one club trying stuff like that and they were booed of the stage and one of them came back to tell us how we don't know real art or some shit, but he was interrupted as someone almost hit him in the head with a freakin' brick.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

Country -

Hip-Hop - Not rap. Rap is an actual genre born from the inner city. Generally, rappers talk about their lives and their struggles. Hip-Hop is a bastardization of this.

i think your abit confused. Rap or rhyming is an element of the inner city cultural movement known as Hip-Hop. But i know what your trying to say. the bastardization here is commercial hip hop(50,lil anybody and the rest) not real Hip Hop(what the fan-boys call it).

Yes, thank you. That is what I was trying to say.

 

[Amberella]

I can tolerate all genres of music. Genre isn't important to me, the song in question is.

Rap is my least favorite overall though.

This 100%. Can't stand Rap at all, it's crap to me.

 

[captaincabbage]

I have to say I do like songs from a lot of different sorts of genres, but the one and only genre of music that makes me want to punch the maker of the song in the face is techno!. Fuck I hate Techno.

How do you define techno? Actual techno, or just every form of electronic dance music?

OT: Personally, I hate the whole gangster rap thing, like 50 Cent and his ilk. I can't stand all the sugary trancepop eurodance crap. Country is really boring to me. To be honest, anything slow and downtempo I don't really like. Maybe I am just too impatient, but I need uptempo music to keep me interested.

Oh, I also dislike most of the heavier metal types, like Deathmetal and that stuff.[/quote]

I define Techno and all its sub-genres as shit that a dog could replicate by jumping on a cassio keyboard.
You're not going to try and defend a genre in this thread are you? because anyone who tries to explain a genre of music (or anything else) to someone that hates it just comes across as a massive selfrightious tool.

 

[the Dept of Science]

I define Techno and all its sub-genres as shit that a dog could replicate by jumping on a cassio keyboard.
You're not going to try and defend a genre in this thread are you? because anyone who tries to explain a genre of music (or anything else) to someone that hates it just comes across as a massive selfrightious tool.

On the other hand, someone who expresses a hatred of something that they don't really have a good knowledge of to someone that knows and likes that thing comes off as ignorant and a prick.

Pretty much every example on this thread where someone has tried to explain their dislike of a genre has revealed to have a very poor knowledge of the it. Generally citing the very worst of said genre, artists that people who are actually into the genre don't listen to.

 

[BlackStar42]

I don't know, I GUESS I can stand just about every genre of music, but I don't really enjoy modern country, hip-hop that uses just autotune and fart noises, and, well, this monstrosity (I've used this video before, but the overall crap-factor of this song never gets old.)

I...What...But...Why...Who...How...

WHY, GOD! WHY?!

 

[King of the N00bs]

rap,country,most pop... that's it

 

[King of the N00bs]

I don't know, I GUESS I can stand just about every genre of music, but I don't really enjoy modern country, hip-hop that uses just autotune and fart noises, and, well, this monstrosity (I've used this video before, but the overall crap-factor of this song never gets old.)

I...What...But...Why...Who...How...

WHY, GOD! WHY?!

no...no...NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!! STOP THE SCREAMO RAP!!!! IT'S TEERRRRRIBLLLLEEE!!!!

 

[The Eggplant]

None. I dislike songs and/or musicians, not genres as a whole. I dislike much hip-hop even as I greatly enjoy Lupe Fiasco, Immortal Technique, Blackalicious, and a handful of others. On the other end of the spectrum, I dislike most metalcore but happily listen to Misery Signals, All That Remains, Remembering Never, A Day To Remember, and others.

Saying you dislike an entire genre implies either ignorance or the ability to have listened to every single band that could even be loosely categorized in that genre...which, unless they're independently wealthy and extremely compulsive, I somehow doubt anyone has.

 

[Slaanax]

Country not sang by Johnny Cash mostly anything else I will listen to except death metal crap.

 

[aspher]

I don't think there are any genres that I simply can't stand because I can listen to anything if I'm in the right mood, but there are genres that I rarely listen to: metal, world, classic, punk to name a few.