Music Theory- The basics updated V7

[zehydra]

Wow, this is a nice summary, if I ever saw one! Good Job! (I too, am a musician)

 

[fd18e3d0-816e-11e4-b4a9-0800200c9a66]

This is very useful, i shall be coming back here with my guitar at some point in the near future. I know some theory (chord progression, major key, some scales) etc but it's by no means a comprehensive understanding. I'm always looking to learn more and there is a lot here for me to sink my teeth into.

Is there anything you would recommend me add? I would love to increase the length the length so it's improved and people can understand an even better learning of music for it

Plus I would like to hit 10,000 words but that's a very shallow reason

To be honest what you have written is greater contains more than i already know so i can't really suggest anything to add. The only thing i can think of is how to read sheet music.

 

[The Rockerfly]

To be honest what you have written is greater contains more than i already know so i can't really suggest anything to add. The only thing i can think of is how to read sheet music.

Brilliant, I shall go literally to the very basics of music. This shall be added in version 7 along with other content if possible

Thanks

 

[fd18e3d0-816e-11e4-b4a9-0800200c9a66]

To be honest what you have written is greater contains more than i already know so i can't really suggest anything to add. The only thing i can think of is how to read sheet music.

Brilliant, I shall go literally to the very basics of music. This shall be added in version 7 along with other content if possible

Thanks

No problem. If the first post gets too long you may want to spoiler tag some of the sections.

 

[The Rockerfly]

To be honest what you have written is greater contains more than i already know so i can't really suggest anything to add. The only thing i can think of is how to read sheet music.

Brilliant, I shall go literally to the very basics of music. This shall be added in version 7 along with other content if possible

Thanks

No problem. If the first post gets too long you may want to spoiler tag some of the sections.

That's also a good idea, people said that it was quite difficult to read all of it at once and having spoiler tags would make it a hell of a lot easier to read

Thanks for these ideas by the way

 

[fd18e3d0-816e-11e4-b4a9-0800200c9a66]

To be honest what you have written is greater contains more than i already know so i can't really suggest anything to add. The only thing i can think of is how to read sheet music.

Brilliant, I shall go literally to the very basics of music. This shall be added in version 7 along with other content if possible

Thanks

No problem. If the first post gets too long you may want to spoiler tag some of the sections.

That's also a good idea, people said that it was quite difficult to read all of it at once and having spoiler tags would make it a hell of a lot easier to read

Thanks for these ideas by the way

No problem, if i think of anything else i'll add it here. Just want to add again that i'm really liking this thread, good job

 

[The Rockerfly]

Version 7 has been created including:

How to read sheet music for piano, guitar and drums

Included diagrams for how to read sheet music on drums, guitar, piano and rhythm

Added extra diagrams

Different vocal styles in metal, including for women specifically

Spoilers on content that are essential to just playing music, let alone writing it

As always, please criticise it and say if you disagree so I can make it even better for new musicians.

 

[ldbmikey86]

If you're picking up drumming, get this book
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/A-Funky-Primer-for-the-Rock-Drummer/3507447

I took lessons for a year, used this book, my ears, and obsession with live footage/music videos, and then kinda went off on my own to learn more after that instructor had no more to really teach me.

But in the end, for drumming (at least in my case/opinion), it's better to just let it come as muscle memory by ear over time, and really helps flex your ability to improv while still staying in key, but not focusing on it entirely. Which is something I've noticed a lot of people that go to music college lack. They can play technically well, but not soulfully well so-to-speak, and seriously struggle at jamming.

 

[The Rockerfly]

If you're picking up drumming, get this book
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/A-Funky-Primer-for-the-Rock-Drummer/3507447

I took lessons for a year, used this book, my ears, and obsession with live footage/music videos, and then kinda went off on my own to learn more after that instructor had no more to really teach me.

But in the end, for drumming (at least in my case/opinion), it's better to just let it come as muscle memory by ear over time, and really helps flex your ability to improv while still staying in key, but not focusing on it entirely. Which is something I've noticed a lot of people that go to music college lack. They can play technically well, but not soulfully well so-to-speak, and seriously struggle at jamming.

Exactly, I've not read that book I'm entirely self taught and I've seen people go through loads of lessons who are just unable to jam as a result.

They are far too robotic and it actually can make them worse players as a result

 

[rockera]

Cool thread very useful I could use this for revision but a word to the wise if you have any pets check to see if their dead if not, go eat something I'm sure you've forgotten to eat.

 

[triggrhappy94]

Oh god music theory found me. Ahhh it hurts.
(I play guitar, and I can play just about any song if you give me enough time to memorize it, however music theory is complicated and hard)

 

[The Rockerfly]

Cool thread very useful I could use this for revision but a word to the wise if you have any pets check to see if their dead if not, go eat something I'm sure you've forgotten to eat.

Oops...

Question, what is the sentence on animal neglect?

 

[The Rockerfly]

Oh god music theory found me. Ahhh it hurts.
(I play guitar, and I can play just about any song if you give me enough time to memorize it, however music theory is complicated and hard)

It's not, but this is why I made this thread. If you don't understand it I will happily explain it to you

 

[triggrhappy94]

Oh god music theory found me. Ahhh it hurts.
(I play guitar, and I can play just about any song if you give me enough time to memorize it, however music theory is complicated and hard)

It's not, but this is why I made this thread. If you don't understand it I will happily explain it to you

I don't think that'll be nessecary, thanks through. I have been focusing more on theory lately, so this did help.

 

[The Rockerfly]

I don't think that'll be nessecary, thanks through. I have been focusing more on theory lately, so this did help.

Just remember that if it sounds good then it probably is theory approved and that if it sounds good that's all that's important

 

[SpectralAnomaly]

Congratulations on the 100k+ views Rocker! Now you can get that shiny shiny badge.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Congratulations on the 100k+ views Rocker! Now you can get that shiny shiny badge.

Thanks Jon, I've yet to get my badge yet though

However it's not at 103,000 views I would honestly love to know whose being viewing this thread so much

 

[Stealth Prawn]

Fantastic, very accurate. I like that you had comprehensive lists of genres and tips on writing for certain genres.

The only issue I found was with the power chord thing. You said root, fifth, the fifth of that. But the fifth of B is F#, so that would make an E5 chord E, B, F#, when it's clearly E, B, E.
I think you mean the fourth of the fifth, or just the octave of the root. Even then it's not 100% necessary to include the octave. Aside from that it's personal preferences, like what categories you put certain bands in, and your choice of double bass over electric for jazz.

 

[The Rockerfly]

Fantastic, very accurate. I like that you had comprehensive lists of genres and tips on writing for certain genres.

The only issue I found was with the power chord thing. You said root, fifth, the fifth of that. But the fifth of B is F#, so that would make an E5 chord E, B, F#, when it's clearly E, B, E.
I think you mean the fourth of the fifth, or just the octave of the root. Even then it's not 100% necessary to include the octave. Aside from that it's personal preferences, like what categories you put certain bands in, and your choice of double bass over electric for jazz.

Oops, that was an accident, thank you for pointing that out. Shall change it asap

 

[Zombie_Fish]

Exactly, I've not read that book I'm entirely self taught and I've seen people go through loads of lessons who are just unable to jam as a result.

They are far too robotic and it actually can make them worse players as a result

That's strange. I've been having lessons on drums for about 4-5 years now, am on my third teacher currently and I'm really good at just jamming along with other musicians or just some backing music even.

I think it's more how you're taught than whether or not you decide to get a teacher. If you simply focus on something like rhythms and not actually learn about songs and styles then yes, you will come out sounding lifeless (as I experienced with my first teacher). However, both my teachers since then have taught me using songs and implementing different rhythms/ fills/ rudiments etc. into said songs to learn, as well as teaching me all those things straight when you get some aspects of drumming that just become too much of a challenge to fit into a song[footnote]Still don't see how you can move your hand fast enough to fit two single strokes on the left hand into one eighth beat in The Prodigy's Voodoo People. It's just one of these things my drum teacher showed me and let me try but I just can't do it without having a hand spasm.[/footnote].

Teaching isn't something that I'd suggest avoiding by any means -- Hell another drummer I know ended up realising that his technique that he self-taught himself was wrong thanks to teaching and benefitted from it as a result -- I'd simply advise you to pick a teacher who teaches the right way for you. Learning songs ended up making me a much more dedicated and competant drummer (both technically and in variety of style) than I would've otherwise, and I have high doubts about whether I could work self-teaching myself anyway.