Muslim Organization To Rate Games Based on "Values of Islam"
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Lawl'd very hard at reading this.TsunamiWombat said:
As for Op idk how would they do it but all i know it would say is DURKA DURKA MUHAMAD JIHAD!!! cookie for reference. Also if i was presed to take a stab probaly just a system of yes or no or a rating on how much it adheres to islamic culture
Um, not to bash anyone, but around 78.27% of the games in the ME is pirated, even in public shops. So they don't have much right in saying what is 'valid' considering that most of their populace isn't even paying for the final product.
The only games which aren't pirated, are the PS3 ones, but with the entire LBP fiasco for the music, I don't have much hope for them.
The only games which aren't pirated, are the PS3 ones, but with the entire LBP fiasco for the music, I don't have much hope for them.
there is no problem, there's no difference between muslim doing this than there is with Christian priests having a problem with games, it isnt going to get to the point where we arent allowed fallout because you can eat non-halal meat, its not going to affect non-muslims and non-strict muslims anyhow, so i dont see what the bother is
Hah, i love the name.
ESRA.
In my language word "sra" means "he/she/it makes a sh**".
ESRA is just like EMAIL, but with poop instead of letters!
ESRA.
In my language word "sra" means "he/she/it makes a sh**".
ESRA is just like EMAIL, but with poop instead of letters!
Well, this shouldn't be unexpected given the epic fail train we've been riding in the region. We went in with the intent of "winning the peace" and getting a renaissance of sorts going, only to fail in a spectacular fashion due to our unwillingness to push effectively. Something I go into with some frequency.
Both Afghanistan and the New Iraqi goverment wrote constitutions specifying themselves as Muslim nations, and not even beginning a trend of seperating church and state. Almost from day #1 we had planned to bring women's liberation to the region, and we pretty much abandoned that idea, and have even gone so far as to have our women robe themselves and act submissive in diplomatic meetings, even if they outrank the men accompanying them.
Under the circumstances, it only makes sense that any kind of govermental ratings board is also going to use religious standards. I'd imagine this is going to be a thinly disguised method of censoring content coming into the country. To put things into perspective, with the gymnastics a lot of our women serving down there have to go through, just imagine the reaction to games like "Mass Effect" with girls like Ashley and Miranda out there kicking butt alongside the guys, not to mention all the women running around without being concealed under robes... not to mention their independance.
For political reasons we hear less about it than we have in the past (because it might anger Americans to demand we step things up I'd imagine) but we've all heard cases about women being forced to marry their rapists, stoned to death, and similar things like that.
I could have the wrong idea, but I think that pretty much any game made in the US, Japan, and other nations, except perhaps those with purely puzzle based gameplay, would effectively be banned on the merits of gender roles and what they might encourage women to think alone.
Women's rights being the first issue that has come to mind in thinking of how this would conflict with things.
Before anyone gripes at me, despite what some think I don't just pull my attitudes out of thin air for no reason. When I think of "Muslim Approved Games" I think of their television and situations like:
http://www.thetrumpet.com/print.php?q=3919.2133.0.0
The Islamic version Of Mickey Mouse (the character mentioned above I believe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVW6P1Iydxw&feature=fvw
Child Education/Egyptian TV/News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc
Children's TV DVD Collection (compiled for the shock factor for other audiences) :
http://store.nicenecouncil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=678
Women's Rights (one example of many, chosen for a bit at the bottom where it talks about cultural vs. religious issues, which you might notice is an attitude I take myself here).
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/feb/21/beheading-poses-new-challenge-american-muslims/news-metro/
I could go on here, but looking at their media, I can venture an educated guess as to what their standards for video games are going to be like. Some of this stuff is old, some of it's as recent as 2009. You can find tons more if you look.
At any rate, I hope it's a moot point and nobody really bothers to try and market games overseas to Muslim nations. As far as including notations on packages here, well truthfully I'm not sure if I want to see every game package I buy marked with how it offends Islamic moral standards. It's enough to say "contains nudity and adult situations" without say a second blurb saying "infidel propaganda, lack of female submissiveness... etc...".
Apologies if I misunderstand, but I think I'm reading the intent correctly here.
Both Afghanistan and the New Iraqi goverment wrote constitutions specifying themselves as Muslim nations, and not even beginning a trend of seperating church and state. Almost from day #1 we had planned to bring women's liberation to the region, and we pretty much abandoned that idea, and have even gone so far as to have our women robe themselves and act submissive in diplomatic meetings, even if they outrank the men accompanying them.
Under the circumstances, it only makes sense that any kind of govermental ratings board is also going to use religious standards. I'd imagine this is going to be a thinly disguised method of censoring content coming into the country. To put things into perspective, with the gymnastics a lot of our women serving down there have to go through, just imagine the reaction to games like "Mass Effect" with girls like Ashley and Miranda out there kicking butt alongside the guys, not to mention all the women running around without being concealed under robes... not to mention their independance.
For political reasons we hear less about it than we have in the past (because it might anger Americans to demand we step things up I'd imagine) but we've all heard cases about women being forced to marry their rapists, stoned to death, and similar things like that.
I could have the wrong idea, but I think that pretty much any game made in the US, Japan, and other nations, except perhaps those with purely puzzle based gameplay, would effectively be banned on the merits of gender roles and what they might encourage women to think alone.
Women's rights being the first issue that has come to mind in thinking of how this would conflict with things.
Before anyone gripes at me, despite what some think I don't just pull my attitudes out of thin air for no reason. When I think of "Muslim Approved Games" I think of their television and situations like:
http://www.thetrumpet.com/print.php?q=3919.2133.0.0
The Islamic version Of Mickey Mouse (the character mentioned above I believe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVW6P1Iydxw&feature=fvw
Child Education/Egyptian TV/News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc
Children's TV DVD Collection (compiled for the shock factor for other audiences) :
http://store.nicenecouncil.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=678
Women's Rights (one example of many, chosen for a bit at the bottom where it talks about cultural vs. religious issues, which you might notice is an attitude I take myself here).
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/feb/21/beheading-poses-new-challenge-american-muslims/news-metro/
I could go on here, but looking at their media, I can venture an educated guess as to what their standards for video games are going to be like. Some of this stuff is old, some of it's as recent as 2009. You can find tons more if you look.
At any rate, I hope it's a moot point and nobody really bothers to try and market games overseas to Muslim nations. As far as including notations on packages here, well truthfully I'm not sure if I want to see every game package I buy marked with how it offends Islamic moral standards. It's enough to say "contains nudity and adult situations" without say a second blurb saying "infidel propaganda, lack of female submissiveness... etc...".
Apologies if I misunderstand, but I think I'm reading the intent correctly here.
you know its jsut a matter of time before those mad oil sheiks make a reverse call of duty right, i'd be surprised if there isent a mod that makes you drive around in a little honda car, with your ak74 and rpg instead of a humvee and shoot americans instead of taliban XDOnyx Oblivion said:
islamic sprite editors might fix that with no problem what so ever XDangry_flashlight said:
mario: the islamic edition XD
man i should make mods for all these silly games that get rejected, i could earn so top dollar.
well. maybe indirectly for selling the mods for stuff and selling the stuff here XD, maybe trade it for oil or diamonds or something XD
This. I find christians rating games disturbing enough. But this just smells a little like censorship and condemnation on a large scale (=national) level. I can see games getting banned because they arent conform to "islamic truths".mad825 said:
Games should be rated by fun, not religion.
You guys go do that in a corner and we'll be over here ignoring you, having fun and being smart.
Simple: no western retailer is going to require an ESRA rating on their games packaging, so this isn't going to come even close to affecting games here. How is it going to affect game sales in the Middle East? Well, that depends from country to country, depending on how firm a grip Islam has on the local government, and well, things probably aren't going to change much. I doubt you can get a copy of Mass Effect in Afghanistan without a great deal of trouble anyway.
i wouldn't think this would be an issue anywhere but here. i doubt most games can be released in most of the Muslim world to begin with. and here in the US, there is that piece of paper that protects free speech, flimsy though it may be.
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Can't wait to see what they'll rate Bayonetta: A domineering woman with a prominent female sexuality, who shows nothing but her illustrious hair, and who is furthermore a witch of devilish power, embark on a quest to fight against god. It's like it was made to be bashed by them.
They should probably devote some time to fixing the whole freedom of speech thing (and all the other human rights violations going on in the Islamic world, whether they be linked to Islam or not) before setting up another censorship board to ascertain what Allah might think of Jiggle Physics (my guess would be the same as Yahweh). But if it doesn't get any power to institute official bans and remains solely informative, then it should be fine.
They should probably devote some time to fixing the whole freedom of speech thing (and all the other human rights violations going on in the Islamic world, whether they be linked to Islam or not) before setting up another censorship board to ascertain what Allah might think of Jiggle Physics (my guess would be the same as Yahweh). But if it doesn't get any power to institute official bans and remains solely informative, then it should be fine.
I can see this hurting the sales of some games, but I can also see it increasing peoples knowledge of Islam, which would be something really good. I'm undecided whether I like this or not yet.