Muslim Organization To Rate Games Based on "Values of Islam"
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Actually, like, all the non PS3 games in Egypt, and probably the rest of the middle east, are pirated. There's a chain called ''Gamevalley'' Litterally all non PS3 games and consoles they sell are pirated/chipped. They're the biggest gaming chain in Cairo, if not all of Egypt. So i doubt anyone is going to notice anything new, what with there not being any proper covers or backs on the games to accommodate the rating. Besides, i doubt anyone would care even if they could see the rating.
Ummm, wow just wow ok I am a Muslim and I am an arab living in Saudi Arabia, and brother you are soooo off... there are always black sheep in every nation every religion etc... so why are we judged by them and not the true muslims the ones that want to innovate the ones who seek true knowledge and better understanding of life? i dont go all westerns are all up in each others beds just having massive orgy's or all westerns have no sense of morals because we cant compare each others standards. I love video games and most times the way the portray Muslims and arabs is soooo wrong and off, but thats ok in a way because thats how its seen through the designers eyes. for instance most westerners dont understand why someone would blow himself up so the relation came to the only way they can relate... Sex the whole 72 virgins crap going on but they dont see (because the media doesnt show) the seig that Israel does on Palestinians how they watch their mothers, daughters, brothers and fathers killed no food no water and barley anyway to defend themselves it is against Islam to kill yourself but there is no hope for them and its their final defense thats why they blow themselves not because of the "72 virgins" but i dont blame anyone for trying to relate in anyway why dont you try being open minded and see this as a step for westerners to learn more about Muslims and vice? i find it a great step towards peace because yes if the crappy news media cant do it or movies hopefully games can...Therumancer said:
LOL this made me laugh... even though im a religious Muslim but i know how you feelspidermounky said:
oh but is ok for the people who are putting a siege on those people for years and its there ONLY way to retaliate? and demolishing the peace process with it with their arrogance? now that is rich and full of ironyBlood Countess said:
Christians already do this with video games, music, movies...this shouldn't even have made the news.
It's just people exercising their freedom of religion...and their right to sanctimoniously judge others. Nothing to see here, move along.
It's just people exercising their freedom of religion...and their right to sanctimoniously judge others. Nothing to see here, move along.
I'm convinced that the only way to please those sexist fanatics in the Middle East would be to make a game where you walk around buying woman with the A button, have them make you a sandwich with the B button, and beat the shit out of them with the X button.
I'm sure that would be approved by their ESRA group and be critically acclaimed, but as a game designer, I'm not going to make a piece of crap game like that, so they can suck my American dick. I'd much rather keep making games about shooting terrorists that look like their people and letting my women walk around in bikini's as they please.
I'm sure that would be approved by their ESRA group and be critically acclaimed, but as a game designer, I'm not going to make a piece of crap game like that, so they can suck my American dick. I'd much rather keep making games about shooting terrorists that look like their people and letting my women walk around in bikini's as they please.
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ehh, all the books are based on each other, really each religion tends to have the same values and the fundies of each of them are big ass holes.... really they are almost all the same religion, its just the nations around them that are different, like here in the states we are much more secular mostly but in allot of Muslim nations they tend to have a very strong religious cast that has allot of power over the people, while here in the west we seem to respect religious devotion as long as they arnt to loud about it and keep it to utahtehroc said:
Considering that most games have Muslims as cannon fodder and women have less cloth on their bodies then what goes into the average shoe will deifently cause some issues for this system.
I should have wrote " the people" and not "there".Del-Toro said:
I don´t like christian values as well.
Actually i don´t even like atheists. I like people though.
No, I'm assuming there's an general idea on these forums (and the UN declaration of Human Rights, and the worth it ascribes to each individual) what is and isn't ethical, and that culturally and ethically significant traits need not be the same. They can overlap, in which case the ethical evaluation takes precedence, but not all cultural aspects are problematic in regard to human rights.Del-Toro said:
My thoughts exactly. Numerous other special interest groups already do this (including, in some senses, the ESRB). Sure it may be taken the "wrong" way in predominantly islamic countries, but if those are the values they deem appropriate then I don't think it's our place to argue.JaredXE said:
Making an art form conform to any type of values is absurd. The purpose of true art should be to allow the viewer to experience either something that they can/will never experience or to provide a deeper in depth view of something that that may experience. If you want the range of works to be truly representative of the human experience you have to talk your hands off and let them make their own choices.
Take for example the book "To Kill a Mockingbird," a prized work well known for its in-depth view of racism in the depression era south from the viewpoint of a young girl at the time. If this work were to be judged by some values system and blocked because it *spoiler alert* "portrays violence by an adult male against young children" or "has extensive references to rape" and that is against *insert country/religion/faction" values, then much of the value of the work is gone.
The world and people still have this absurd notion that any work created to express an opinion or experience must be judged by all groups of people as to not offend, but art has always been offensive. I'm pretty sure the French government hated "The Third of May 1808" and wanted it gone but to do so would be to erase a valuable part of human experience.
In all, let these rating boards do their thing, but don't give them any real power. Let the ESRB or the ESRA call the next ultra-violent/explicit/racist/worthless work a piece of shit, but don't let them exercise any control over it.
Take for example the book "To Kill a Mockingbird," a prized work well known for its in-depth view of racism in the depression era south from the viewpoint of a young girl at the time. If this work were to be judged by some values system and blocked because it *spoiler alert* "portrays violence by an adult male against young children" or "has extensive references to rape" and that is against *insert country/religion/faction" values, then much of the value of the work is gone.
The world and people still have this absurd notion that any work created to express an opinion or experience must be judged by all groups of people as to not offend, but art has always been offensive. I'm pretty sure the French government hated "The Third of May 1808" and wanted it gone but to do so would be to erase a valuable part of human experience.
In all, let these rating boards do their thing, but don't give them any real power. Let the ESRB or the ESRA call the next ultra-violent/explicit/racist/worthless work a piece of shit, but don't let them exercise any control over it.
Sigh.... at this point I can't even be angry. I just file this under "Idiots will be idiots".
Judging games on the value of religion, I wonder how they'll take games that toy with the idea of religion, will they recognise their artistic merits or never look any deeper than the surface.
Probably the latter since that's what most people seem to do!
Judging games on the value of religion, I wonder how they'll take games that toy with the idea of religion, will they recognise their artistic merits or never look any deeper than the surface.
Probably the latter since that's what most people seem to do!
blind indeed. particularly here. what with Sharia ruled nations being notorious for control/restriction of information and complete intolerance for dissent.Danish rage said:
and as someone mentioned above, its not limited to the religion of submission. Imagine a Christian rating board: the game wins points for burning people because it smells pleasing to the lord, but loses points because two men share physical contact for more than 3 seconds.
still, you should remember this: Don't judge the Muslims that you know by Islam and
don't judge Islam by the Muslims that you know.