Yeah, one isolated incident definitely holds true for an entire massive country and millions of people. Nice job there, you really should us Americans, huh.Noyourjoanzy said:
My science teacher is kinda stupid.
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Engage said teacher in scientific combat (i.e.- argue that's she's wrong as all hell... with SCIENCE!).
Well, on the topic of education lets not forget the hole of California, can afford education because they made it law not to raise property tax.
The good news is the tax is low. which is great because no one can get a descent job to pay it anyways.
Yeah, that is the worst case(I hope) but if Washington DC can have a murder rate of 700/year per million people compared to say 37/year per 1 million as the all time high for Canada(which I guess is the easiest country for comparison being that they are right next to each other).
So you are right one incident is not grounds to prove it, I just thought it was too long to start listing the last 10 years.
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The good news is the tax is low. which is great because no one can get a descent job to pay it anyways.
Yeah, that is the worst case(I hope) but if Washington DC can have a murder rate of 700/year per million people compared to say 37/year per 1 million as the all time high for Canada(which I guess is the easiest country for comparison being that they are right next to each other).
So you are right one incident is not grounds to prove it, I just thought it was too long to start listing the last 10 years.
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10th post down he says "She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson"Razada said:So I was wrong about Einstein, apparently.Furioso said:I really need to check up on that history book, find out where that source comes from. Hmmm. Or I got my wires crossed, I mean, it is 3am. *sigh*
Regardless, at no point does the OP state that she pushed her views DURING THE LESSON. He simply stated that she HELD THOSE VIEWS and (Obviously) informed the pupils of her views (Not a very professional thing to do but whatever). As the OP has not stated if she has been TEACHING her views, one can assume that she is not (As it would risk her job to not follow the curriculum) and that as an only entity you are judging some poor woman based upon nothing other than her faith.
hell, she might be a wonderful science teacher. We simply do not have enough evidence to condemn her as a retard, bad teacher or anything similar. She simply holds these views. She does not necessarily teach them.
Edit: 18th post down he says "I live in backwards Kansas by the way she keeps saying the book(science is wrong) and the other book is right(bible)."
that is exactly right what I meant.She always during we are blessed fore being primates/having hands/ect. She is very religiousFurioso said:10th post down he says "She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson"Razada said:So I was wrong about Einstein, apparently.Furioso said:
Regardless, at no point does the OP state that she pushed her views DURING THE LESSON. He simply stated that she HELD THOSE VIEWS and (Obviously) informed the pupils of her views (Not a very professional thing to do but whatever). As the OP has not stated if she has been TEACHING her views, one can assume that she is not (As it would risk her job to not follow the curriculum) and that as an only entity you are judging some poor woman based upon nothing other than her faith.
hell, she might be a wonderful science teacher. We simply do not have enough evidence to condemn her as a retard, bad teacher or anything similar. She simply holds these views. She does not necessarily teach them.
She needs to stop smoking weed and watching the Flintstones, because a person in her position should know fucking better. The reason why I say this EVOLUTION and RELIGION are two different arguments. Hell both of them counter each other, it's basically like she tried to combine both concepts to sound "smart" yet her concept is more of a clusterfuck then believing we all came from Adam and Eve.trollax said:
Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.Saltyk said:
Actually, it's my experience that student feedback can sink a professor's career. Of course, I go to a weird school.TheRussian said:
Just in response to the last bit about Einstein being jewish. He was born into a jewish family this is true but that does not make him jewish. Just as how a child belonging to christian parents is not christian. As a child one cannot truely comprehend all the different faiths instead most choose to adopt the faith of their parents. Einstein did not do this though. As proof I'd like to reference pg 36 of "the god delusion" by Richard Dawkins. Also if you read biographies of his life his religious views point him towards spinoza's god theory.Furioso said:
just figured I'd clear that up. Cheers
You need to report that to the school board, go through your parents. She is unfit to teach if the student's know she believes that nonsense. If she kept it to herself and taught facts then it wouldn't be a problem, but if she has voiced that opinion she needs to be fired.
The last thing the world needs are children being taught by religious nuts outside of the home, as they are can already be crippled enough by religious parents.
The last thing the world needs are children being taught by religious nuts outside of the home, as they are can already be crippled enough by religious parents.
You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.brainslurper said:
From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.
Things like this happen, I'm sure she sounded completely professional when being hired, and no one has bothered to report her/she hasn't been caught by any faculty, hell, this isn't even the worst case of insanity lately, we're now dealing with a celebrated coach (Jerry Sandusky) being accused (he is good as guilty really, not a single person is pulling for him because of the overwhelming preliminary evidence) of rape and molestation of up to 40 male children over the course of his career, with I think 10 stepping forward to testify, but that's not the worst part, the worst part is that multiple, MULTIPLE faculty CAUGHT HIM IN THE ACT and reported it to the school, and the school (Penn State University, a pretty well renowned college) did NOTHING to stop it, my point is that insane shit happens every now and then, and an unprofessional science teacher isn't really that "out of left field" when compared to the other insanities of the worldRazada said:Well, It does influence her teaching. But you never know, it could all be a rather clever ploy. Perhaps it is a good thing she is making her students question evolution instead of having blind faith in science (Yes that was deliberate). For all we know this could be an elaborate double-ploy to make her students think more, she might not even be a christian at all!Furioso said:10th post down he says "She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson"Razada said:So I was wrong about Einstein, apparently.Furioso said:
Regardless, at no point does the OP state that she pushed her views DURING THE LESSON. He simply stated that she HELD THOSE VIEWS and (Obviously) informed the pupils of her views (Not a very professional thing to do but whatever). As the OP has not stated if she has been TEACHING her views, one can assume that she is not (As it would risk her job to not follow the curriculum) and that as an only entity you are judging some poor woman based upon nothing other than her faith.
hell, she might be a wonderful science teacher. We simply do not have enough evidence to condemn her as a retard, bad teacher or anything similar. She simply holds these views. She does not necessarily teach them.
Edit: 18th post down he says "I live in backwards Kansas by the way she keeps saying the book(science is wrong) and the other book is right(bible)."
Unlikely? Yes. But possible? Yes.
Even with all available evidence I would rather not insult the woman. I mean, the fact that she is teaching "Science" as a single principle shows that the OP is rather young (I mean, We split up teh sciences at around age 13 in the UK) and could just be bored and making things seem worse than they are to get attention on the internet.
I guess I am coming up with every possible explanation to avoid the conclusion that the American school system is a pile of shit that lets crazy people teach. I mean, if this is the case he should merely report the teacher for not teaching the class.
The 6000 years part would suggest she's a Christian, the living-alongside-dinosaurs part would suggest she's an atheist, and the evolution-is-a-scam part would suggest she's a Christian again.trollax said:
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From the little dictionary on my dashboard:Saltyk said:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.