My science teacher is kinda stupid.

[Smeggs]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

Where the hell do you go to school?

Tell her superiors she is not doing her job correctly and is being offensive.

 

[Hal10k]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

The 6000 years part would suggest she's a Christian, the living-alongside-dinosaurs part would suggest she's an atheist, and the evolution-is-a-scam part would suggest she's a Christian again.


?

I think she's using the creationist argument that dinosaur fossils are just the remains of the creatures wiped out in Noah's great flood or Eve's expulsion from Eden, or something like that. Hence, before that, humans coexisted with dinosaurs, all of whom were non-carnivorous for some reason.

I kinda like the theory. Anything that increases the odds of the Flinstones being re-released as a documentary is just fine by my reckoning.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

Crazy thing is that yes it has.

Evolution is simply the passing of traits from one generation to the next. It's why you have the same physical features as your parents.

But you are right about the early man fossils being from a different species. Their decendants DNA changed enough to qualify as a different species every few million years.

 

[shrimpcel]

Hang the heretic! Burn her at the steak! We can't have people with opinions and beliefs!(Okay, so she probably shouldn't be a science teacher, but still...)

"Burn her at the steak" has got to be the funniest error I've seen in a while.

 

[Smeggs]

Engage said teacher in scientific combat (i.e.- argue that's she's wrong as all hell... with SCIENCE!).

^Do as the duck says, assuming you have the necessary knowledge and wit to hold your own in a scientific arguement.

Anybody who denies years of research, study and hard evidence because "Teh bibal sais uderwise" is being an idiot. A blind idiot.

 

[Macgyvercas]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old

Ahh, the YECs. Try this (assuming she also believes that the universe is an age significanty less than 14 billion). Ask here how far the Andromeda Galaxy is from Earth (protip: it's 2.5 million light years. Light year is approximately 5 trillion miles). Then point out the fact that since the light we are observeing from the Andromeda galaxy started travelling 2.5 million years ago, how can the universe be under that age?

 

[Hal10k]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

From the little dictionary on my dashboard:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.

The definition of "theory within the scientific community is different from the accepted layman's definition. A "theory", according to standard scientific practice, has to be supported by experimentation and generally recognized as a plausible explination for a phenomenon by the scientific community. Before that, it's just a hypothesis. Gravity is a theory; being pulled towards the center of the Earth by Cthulhu's intake of breath is a hypothesis.

I have absolutely no idea what the broad focus of this argument is, but I read your post and immediately though "Semantics-Man awaaaaaay!"

 

[utopaline]

THAT is not science. Tell her to go back to Sunday School to teach that. I have never read one single SCIENCE book that states that. She should not be teaching science. Not stupid, jsut mis informed as to what science is

 

[I Have No Idea]

I think she's using the creationist argument the dinosaur fossils are just the remains of the creatures wiped out in Noah's great flood or Eve's expulsion from Eden, or something like that. Hence, before that, humans coexisted with dinosaurs, who were non-carnivorous for some reason.

I kinda like the theory. Anything that increases the odds of the Flinstones being re-released as a documentary is just fine by my reckoning.

WHOA, I just realized that I was completely off when I said the living alongside dinosaurs thing suggested she was an atheist. WOW, how the heck did I miss that? I guess I was just initially confused by the calculus I'm supposed to be l studying.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

How can she be a science teacher if she holds those beliefs. They surely have to take some sort of test to be accepted as a teacher OF SCIENCE. Surely these things will have been picked up on and rectified.

Unless you live in one backwards ass town, I'm calling troll.

If a teacher has worked at a school for 4+ years they can more or less get away with anything short of physically assaulting/sexually harassing a student. (and they get even more leeway with each additional year they work at a school)

Probably a troll, but for the sake of the thread in the very slim chance that he isn't a compelte troll...

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

I was going to ask what course subject they teach. If they taught, for instance, chemistry or physics it wouldn't matter.

Going by this though, I'm assuming (because I'm not reading 3 pages) that your teacher is a biology teacher, somewhere between 8th grade and sophmore year level teaching, and if such is the case you need to report them to the principle under the basis of not learning the curriculum and bringing a religious bias into a learning environment. (assuming this by slim chance isn't a troll thread)

 

[Rayne870]

She has the belief that the Earth is 6000 years old,humans lived along side dinosaurs, and evolution is a big religious scam so I need help of what to do.

doesn't this make her unfit to teach science?

 

[Gitty101]

Don't feed the trolls. This one escaped the flame-barrier...

 

[Kakashi on crack]

Also hasn't it been proven that the theory of evolution and religion can easily co-exist in harmony?

I mean seriously. With a very mild modification to how you view the whole adam and eve thing, you could say that evolution co-exists with religion quite easily.

 

[trollax]

She doesn't want to even teach science.Became of this chapter

 

[Saltyk]

Seriously people. Grow up. Let a person believe what they want to believe. If she thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old, let her. If she thinks evolution is wrong, let her. As long as these beliefs do not hurt anyone or cause problems, they are harmless. Believing in God is not a mental illness. Please stop acting like it is.

That being said.
IF she is not teaching science theory in a science class, that is a problem. As a science teacher, she has a duty to teach scientific theory. She can state that people are allowed to believe as they wish on the subject, but they need to know the theory all the same. If she isn't teaching the theory properly, the OP needs to tell someone of authority. The principle or the school board would be a good start.

But as long as this belief is just a personnel feeling there's nothing wrong with it.

Things tend to cease to be "theories" when there is pretty much no conflicting evidence, and the overwhelming majority of the educated community agrees with them. Just because there are other contradicting ideas does not make it a theory. For example, I can say the sky is currently blue, just because another person says that no, the sky is purple, doesn't make what I said a theory.

You do realize that calling something scientific theory does mean you are denying it as being scientific fact, right? 90%+ of the things they teach you in science is scientific theory. Gravity? Scientific Theory. Relativity? Scientific Theory. Evolution? Scientific Theory.

From Wikipedia:
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

From the little dictionary on my dashboard:
Theory: a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
Evolution no longer fits this definition, as it has been thoroughly explained and proven countless times.
Gravity is somewhat a theory, as there is no thorough scientific explanation for WHY objects with more mass have a larger gravitational pull.

And? Seriously are we even disagreeing?

 

[Skulltaker101]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

I'm stunned.

Okay, first we have to analyse the meaning of the word "theory". See, a theory in a scientific context is a hypothesis, or "educated guess" that has been proven via experimentation and observation. Therefore, "just a theory" is to suggest that yes, evolution is a proven process that can be observed and analysed. Creationism is not a theory. It is not even a hypothesis. It is a matter of belief in ancient scripture. It cannot be observed or analysed. It cannot be proven. Surely you see the problem with the age-old argument of "just a theory." As a theory, then by definition it HAS BEEN PROVEN.

Also, the popularity of a concept is not the same as said concept being correct. Remember that in the 1500s, nearly everyone believed that the Sun orbited the Earth, but it didn't make it true.

OT: I have no trouble with somebody's faith. What irritates me is dogma and the forcible spreading of such faith under the guise of fact. That is what your teacher is doing. It is patently incorrect, and I don't care if that part of Kansas is so backwards that a jug of moonshine is an acceptable musical instrument. It's not right. Listen to the wisdom of these fine Escapists. Go talk to your principal.

 

[Krion_Vark]

leave her to her beliefs, unless she's actively teaching this to her students or is professing all her beliefs as the facts, she is in no way being a harm to anyone.

In complete agreement. Many people don't understand that personal beliefs are generally harmless. They can only be harmful if A. that person uses them to negative effects; or B. other people make a big deal about it.
As long as she keeps this to herself and outside the classroom (like teachers should), she's fine.

You. meet-

She is teaching evolution at the moments and skips the evidence but if their is an argument against it in a paragraph she focuses on it for the whole lesson

If Trollax isn't just trolling. big if

Then he has every right to be worried. To be a teacher of science you should not be voicing your opinions that have been dis-proven by science.

If you want to invalidate science that is currently held to be truth, such as evolution, then you should be working on that yourself. Not teaching your, as of now, unsubstantiated theories to students who need to know what is currently accepted as truth to pass tests.

The crazy thing is that evolution HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. Its still only a theory because to prove it would mean to either find definitive proof that humans evolved from apes or to be able to observe an ape evolve into man. Neither of which we have found. Yes we have found things that substantiate the claim of evolution but there is still no 100% proof that what we found are actually ancestors of humans or a completely different species that has died out.

*edit* Oh yeah Creationism is more widely believed than evolution in the United States.

I'm stunned.

Okay, first we have to analyse the meaning of the word "theory". See, a theory in a scientific context is a hypothesis, or "educated guess" that has been proven via experimentation and observation. Therefore, "just a theory" is to suggest that yes, evolution is a proven process that can be observed and analysed. Creationism is not a theory. It is not even a hypothesis. It is a matter of belief in ancient scripture. It cannot be observed or analysed. It cannot be proven. Surely you see the problem with the age-old argument of "just a theory." As a theory, then by definition it HAS BEEN PROVEN.

Also, the popularity of a concept is not the same as said concept being correct. Remember that in the 1500s, nearly everyone believed that the Sun orbited the Earth, but it didn't make it true.

Stunned at what?
Did you know that in Scientific terms that Gravity is still known as a theory? Just because we know it happens and can observe it does not make it into science fact. Not right away. It has to be tested and have its results verified through different testing. Yes we know that evolution happens we have observed it. BUT the reason that its not a FACT is because of how broad it can be between the same species. You can sometimes not get the same result of an evolution putting the same stressors on a plant/animal. Yes you usually get the same evolutionary change in the same group but the evolutionary changes vary from test to test even if you copy the test. Scientists are working on evolution to become Science fact but as it stands now it is still just a theory.

I never said I was supporting Creationism its just that a lot of people don't realize that there is A LOT of work that goes into making something a science fact. The crazy thing is that if you think about it Creationism is a child's fantasy. They get to ride dinosaurs. Who is to say that humans didn't exist with the dinos? No one can really prove or disprove that. Creationism sits in its own little bubble it cannot really be proven or disproved because if creationism isn't real then who says evolution is? Say that God created all of us at once dinosaurs plants and humans. Then when shit went down the humans ended up either killing all the dinos or were able to adapt to the changes of the world and survive. There is a possibility that both Creationism and Evolution exist because God possibly could have made everything and then just took a step back and watch it unfold and see how his little play things are going to exist in this world.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Sorry guys, but in this case, personal beliefs DO matter. A teacher can never keep their beliefs out of their lessons in some way and this WILL cause harm to her science students.

On the other hand, Trollax may well be trollin....

 

[Yugeky20]

She is not your science teacher if he doesn't teach science...

On the other hand I am somewhat suspicious of the whole thread due to op's name, avatar and health meter.

Not only does she not teach science she doesn't know science(believing evolution is a religous scam).

 

[OneOfTheMichael's]

That's just.....horrible.
Consult your principle and then....

Hang the heretic! Burn her at the steak!

If she continues to state her made up opinions.