My view on the BNP

[A.I. Sigma]

You know, the other day my dad said that, and I quote, "The BNP are right. We ought to ban all these Muslims and their bombs. They're all terrorists. It's a violent religion that must be stopped."

Fucking hell.p.

That very much supports the point I've just made. Thank you~

 

[GRoXERs]

Alternatively there's my view on the BNP:

Racist cunts.

Yeah, that's my view too; but I still don't feel comfortable demonising all of the new voters that selected them in this election.

Whyever not? A vote from ignorance is worse than failing to vote, because you might well end up picking someone who, oh, I don't know, wants to expunge all immigrants from the country. Demonize away. Ignorance in these matters is not excusable, as it's the responsibility of every voter to develop an informed opinion before voting - otherwise, democratic systems cannot (and will not) work.

 

[Superlordbasil]

Generally i see recent events as the rise of idiocy in the general public. Originally idiot meant someone who took no interest in politics (Greek origin of the word). Now too many people don't vote or vote for parties who they don't understand. The result is that now radicals small number of voters are represented higher than they ever should be and too many are voting for racists without truly understanding the consequences.

On a historical note the Nazi party had only 6.5% of the vote in 1924 and look what happened there. "The beginnings of all things are small" Cicero

 

[Octorok]

You know, the other day my dad said that, and I quote, "The BNP are right. We ought to ban all these Muslims and their bombs. They're all terrorists. It's a violent religion that must be stopped."

Fucking hell.p.

That very much supports the point I've just made. Thank you~

While you're welcome, it doesn't stop the fact that I just noticed my father is a Nazi

 

[WrongSprite]

So. They want to allow people into the British Isles based on the level of melanin in there skin, because there has historically been a low level of melanain

what I have learnt so far in my History AS, so I would be grateful if you would point out any mistakes I have made.

Hey, I'm doing that course, too! Did you take your History AS paper 2 test today?

I did!

Anyway, on topic.

So. They want to allow people into the British Isles based on the level of melanin in there skin, because there has historically been a low level of melanain in the British Isles.

Right.

Why?

 

[UpcountryGecko]

I don't think there has been any surge of popularity towards the BNP in recent years, but the scandal surrounding MP's expences has jaded an already apathetic voting public into simply not bothering to stick a cross on a ballot this time round (I seem to recall reading that the UK's voter turnout was approx 32% this time). There was no such compunction for the BNP's supporters, who are by all accounts fanatical in their bigotry and show up to vote without fail (assuming they're not serving time), and so the same number of votes resulted in elected officials.

When it comes to turnout for european elections 32% is substantially higher then in the previous election for MEP's with the last one having less then 20% (I think 18%) of the electorate actually going out and voting. What I don't understand is the thinking of the electorate, if your angry when it's election time learn about the third, fourth parties that have put themselves up in your area don't not vote.

 

[sheic99]

For us Americans, what does BNP stand for?

Before the election I believed that one vote definitely can't make a difference. Now I'm not so sure.

Up until last year, the US had only about a 50% voter turn out for elections. It becomes a lot of votes that don't make a difference.

I have absolutely nothing but hatred for the British Nazi Party. They're not even original in their racism, they stole it from Hitler!

Alternatively there's my view on the BNP:

Racist cunts.

Damn right.

You know, the other day my dad said that, and I quote, "The BNP are right. We ought to ban all these Muslims and their bombs. They're all terrorists. It's a violent religion that must be stopped."

Fucking hell.p.

You should tell your dad that the Shiites(Muslim extremists) only consist of about 10-15% of the Muslim community. It just so happens that they are in power in several countries.

 

[isay]

what I have learnt so far in my History AS, so I would be grateful if you would point out any mistakes I have made.

Hey, I'm doing that course, too! Did you take your History AS paper 2 test today?

Yep, extreme failure

 

[MusicalFreedom]

For us Americans, what does BNP stand for?

The British National Party.

more like the british nazi party considering they hate anything non-white, non-straight, non-british, non-rightwing

 

[D_987]

So. They want to allow people into the British Isles based on the level of melanin in there skin, because there has historically been a low level of melanain

what I have learnt so far in my History AS, so I would be grateful if you would point out any mistakes I have made.

Hey, I'm doing that course, too! Did you take your History AS paper 2 test today?

I did!

What did you think of it?

As for the BNP; I blame the media to be honest - they are the ones that are actually giving the BNP support by denouncing all other parties - very few Liberal Democrats were involved in this scandal, and yet they didn't receive a sizeable amount of the vote (less than Conservatives) because they get no screen time. The BNP are disillusioned morons that see only what they want to see; I have previously said we shouldn't judge people but educate them. however - and I stick by this; the media has a huge part to play - if they denounce the BNP and their actions in the same way they are currently denouncing Labour we wouldn't have this predicament.

 

[Zoibie]

To be honest with you, if I was put in the same position as a White person who feels their job is endangered because of an economy run by a man who wasn't legally elected, all the while seeing their...

That's one of the things that I find annoying, the media, and therefore the public, thinking that a general election was needed when Gordon Brown took over as PM. We never vote for the leader of any party, it's the party members, not the public who vote for them. We vote the the MPs and therefore the majority party which will make up most of government. The media heavily publicise the party leaders so, for most people, that's what a majority of their decision is based upon, but that's not the tradition or how things operate.

I guess you could say the media played a strong, albeit indirect, part in the BNP's recent popularity. It seemed like the expenses scandal would never end, and whilst I don't agree with their actions, it has been blown out of proportion. This isn't a recent development by all means, why is it now, when the media have nothing better to do that rip into government, that they decide to make this such a big deal? Sure it's bad, corrupt politicians aren't a good thing, but the government are taking the right decision IMO: reviewing all cases, and anyone who made 'suspicious' claims won't be able to stand next session.

And I'm certainly not a fan of BNP, I feel ashamed to live in the region that Nick Griffin is representing. Seriously, how he comes up with the crap he says is beyond me, like a couple of months ago claiming that The Holocaust didn't really happen, it was just Allies propaganda!?

BTW, anyone doing A level Politics?

 

[isay]

For us Americans, what does BNP stand for?

The British National Party.

more like the british nazi party considering they hate anything non-white, non-straight, non-british, non-rightwing

I consider myself British but they still hate me.

 

[sheic99]

Generally i see recent events as the rise of idiocy in the general public. Originally idiot meant someone who took no interest in politics (Greek origin of the word). Now too many people don't vote or vote for parties who they don't understand. The result is that now radicals small number of voters are represented higher than they ever should be and too many are voting for racists without truly understanding the consequences.

On a historical note the Nazi party had only 6.5% of the vote in 1924 and look what happened there. "The beginnings of all things are small" Cicero

And when Hitler was voted chancellor it was only 33% of the vote.

For us Americans, what does BNP stand for?

The British National Party.

more like the british nazi party considering they hate anything non-white, non-straight, non-british, non-rightwing

Thanks. It's starting to sound a lot like the minute men in America. Luckily for us, they aren't political.

 

[rowan-thats-me]

I hate it when people blame problems in britian on foriegn people, E.g polish people take alot of british work when it comes to construction not because they are "stealing" jobs but because they can, and do, do them better, and dont drink thier weight in tea every day.

ah, rant over BNP=bad news

 

[A.I. Sigma]

what I have learnt so far in my History AS, so I would be grateful if you would point out any mistakes I have made.

Hey, I'm doing that course, too! Did you take your History AS paper 2 test today?

Yep, extreme failure

Aw, it can't be that bad! Which question did you do - 2 or 3?

 

[Cartographer]

I don't think there has been any surge of popularity towards the BNP in recent years, but the scandal surrounding MP's expences has jaded an already apathetic voting public into simply not bothering to stick a cross on a ballot this time round (I seem to recall reading that the UK's voter turnout was approx 32% this time). There was no such compunction for the BNP's supporters, who are by all accounts fanatical in their bigotry and show up to vote without fail (assuming they're not serving time), and so the same number of votes resulted in elected officials.

When it comes to turnout for european elections 32% is substantially higher then in the previous election for MEP's with the last one having less then 20% (I think 18%) of the electorate actually going out and voting. What I don't understand is the thinking of the electorate, if your angry when it's election time learn about the third, fourth parties that have put themselves up in your area don't not vote.

Well, the European elections coincided with local council elections in England in an attempt (I guess) to get more people to vote. If previously it was 18% then it seems like it worked.
I couldn't agree more about not voting; you basically have waived any/all rights to complain about anything by not voting, and I consider those people who "do not vote, in protest" to be spineless.

That said, 32% is still pitiful.
Lets assume a community of 10 people.
3 left wing.
3 right wing.
2 centre.
2 racist, extremist bigots.

The 7 people who didn't vote are going to be controlled by the 2 racist, extremist bigots. And the poor guy who actually got off his arse and voted the way he believed is the most screwed of the lot, because he did everything he should have, but the rest of the community let him down.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

For us Americans, what does BNP stand for?

The British National Party.

more like the british nazi party considering they hate anything non-white, non-straight, non-british, non-rightwing

NAZI actually stands for something along the lines of "Nationalist, working socialist party", so the names themselves have similarities.

Anyway, I don't blame the voters entirely. They had rason to think the BNP would sort this out. They were in a time of crisis, the BNP blamed it on Major parties, the EU and immigrants and people wanted someone to point the finger at. The BNP simply gave them this target for them.

I have absolutely nothing but hatred for the British Nazi Party. They're not even original in their racism, they stole it from Hitler!

Alternatively there's my view on the BNP:

Racist cunts.

Damn right.

You know, the other day my dad said that, and I quote, "The BNP are right. We ought to ban all these Muslims and their bombs. They're all terrorists. It's a violent religion that must be stopped."

Fucking hell.p.

And when are you going to tell your dad to stop reading the sun?

all the while seeing their hard earned money being spent on elaborate duck houses (wtf?)

I heard about that. It's called Duck Island if I'm right. My favourite wastes of taxpayer's money though are:

-Claiming for money to clean out his moat.

-And someone who claimed for £5 for a church fund.

 

[elvor0]

The idea behind it is fine, but they've taken it too far, Britain is in dire need to immigration control, and control of people leeching off of the country (Black, White or otherwise) but the way the BNP (I so totally didn't put BMP first time) goes about it is completely wrong and way too extremist. But it seems no one can find a good middle ground for problems these days, either it's Nazi death camps or "Sure do what you want, here's some free money".

 

[goater24]

BNP = Reactionist Scum

EDIT: To think they have won two seats representing the UK makes me sick.

 

[internutt]

I wouldn't say they are becoming popular. Did you see the protests in Manchester the other night?

I think that the real reason BNP did so well was because of uninformed voters and the informed voters were just too lazy to vote.

Its a sign of laziness rather than the UK becoming racist.