Mystery Object Survives Black Hole

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blackrave said:
Shouldn't object that have strong enough gravity to resist supermassiveblackhole soo become black hole itself?
G2 is in black hole's orbit, it means it's going around it so fast it cannot "fall in it" (the same way Earth doesn't fall into Sun and ISS doesn't crash into Earth). It recently passed the periapsis (the point in orbit where it is closest to the black hole), and scientists predicted that the tidal forces at that distance should tear apart the measly gas cloud. This is not unique to black holes, the same thing would happen to the Moon if it would get too close to the Earth. Since this didn't happen, they concluded that there must be a star inside the gas cloud. A star would have to be much closer to be affected by the tidal forces.

"Mystery Object Survives Black Hole" is a very misleading and clickbaity title.
 

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Major_Tom said:
blackrave said:
Shouldn't object that have strong enough gravity to resist supermassiveblackhole soo become black hole itself?
G2 is in black hole's orbit, it means it's going around it so fast it cannot "fall in it" (the same way Earth doesn't fall into Sun and ISS doesn't crash into Earth). It recently passed the periapsis (the point in orbit where it is closest to the black hole), and scientists predicted that the tidal forces at that distance should tear apart the measly gas cloud. This is not unique to black holes, the same thing would happen to the Moon if it would get too close to the Earth. Since this didn't happen, they concluded that there must be a star inside the gas cloud. A star would have to be much closer to be affected by the tidal forces.

"Mystery Object Survives Black Hole" is a very misleading and clickbaity title.
So it was combination of high gravity and high speed? Makes sense.
Thank you astro-skeleton.
 

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Major_Tom said:
blackrave said:
Shouldn't object that have strong enough gravity to resist supermassiveblackhole soo become black hole itself?
G2 is in black hole's orbit, it means it's going around it so fast it cannot "fall in it" (the same way Earth doesn't fall into Sun and ISS doesn't crash into Earth). It recently passed the periapsis (the point in orbit where it is closest to the black hole), and scientists predicted that the tidal forces at that distance should tear apart the measly gas cloud. This is not unique to black holes, the same thing would happen to the Moon if it would get too close to the Earth. Since this didn't happen, they concluded that there must be a star inside the gas cloud. A star would have to be much closer to be affected by the tidal forces.

"Mystery Object Survives Black Hole" is a very misleading and clickbaity title.
So it is clickbait. Screw you, journalism.

More fitting title should be "Mystery Object Survives Black Hole... for now. But there is no escape."
 

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More information for the science/tech buffs: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-astronomers-solve-puzzle-about-bizarre-object-at-the-center-of-our-galaxy
 

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Galactus perhaps? Has no one considered the devour-er of worlds?
Hehe... or maybe it was the Beast Planet?

OT: from what I know, a binary star system is a system of two stars, I'm surprised that by combining, it became dense enough to be unaffected from the blackhole.

 

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Mangue Surfer said:
There is no such thing as a black hole.
Indeed, there is only God. Or was that not the real intent of your message?

Anyhow, people who are dismissive of such things like a singularity in space because it defies the working of nature as we know it here on earth and by that can not be fully explained yet, are the same people who thought that the world was flat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth].

And let me iterate that this response is not a flame/troll bait post. But the person who posted the quoted statement does so without explaining why he has come to this conclusion.
 

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So what is G2? The astronomers believe that it's just one of an emerging class of stars near the black hole that are created because the black hole's powerful gravity drives binary stars to merge into one.
Black Holes: Celestial Matchmakers
Actually, that sounds way more 'porno' when I type it out than it did in my head.
 

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I just have a feeling we will find this being in there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opHsq9G0eOE

You see the black hole didn't want the planet so it spit it back out. So MAYBE we could just avoid this planet at all costs. :)
 

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Cpt. Slow said:
Mangue Surfer said:
There is no such thing as a black hole.
Indeed, there is only God. Or was that not the real intent of your message?

Anyhow, people who are dismissive of such things like a singularity in space because it defies the working of nature as we know it here on earth and by that can not be fully explained yet, are the same people who thought that the world was flat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth].

And let me iterate that this response is not a flame/troll bait post. But the person who posted the quoted statement does so without explaining why he has come to this conclusion.
An Event horizon can't exist in our universe, information can't simple be lost.
 

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Mangue Surfer said:
Cpt. Slow said:
Mangue Surfer said:
There is no such thing as a black hole.
Indeed, there is only God. Or was that not the real intent of your message?

Anyhow, people who are dismissive of such things like a singularity in space because it defies the working of nature as we know it here on earth and by that can not be fully explained yet, are the same people who thought that the world was flat [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth].

And let me iterate that this response is not a flame/troll bait post. But the person who posted the quoted statement does so without explaining why he has come to this conclusion.
An Event horizon can't exist in our universe, information can't simple be lost.
Sorry, I'm afraid you're statement contradicts the evidence found by the UCLA:http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Case-for-Massive-Black-Hole-at-3902

The idea does make some sense, but it's hardly the scientific theory black holes and general relativity are.