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daywalker1776

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To successfully combat the legions of the unknown, we must all be aware of the things that go bump in the night. It is for this reason why I set up this forum to discuss the mythical creatures that fill the ranks of those legions. Basically what I want you to do is post about a creature in myths that could be real, somewhat real, or complete bull-crap. I would also like a description of that creature and whatever else you can fit like a video (real or fake) and/or a picture (again, real or fake). An example would be Slender Man, something that is a complete fabrication, or the Loch Ness Monster, possibly real. Have fun, and remember, bring a gun with some mags, you gonna need it to fight these bitches.
 

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Ok, the Bunyip. I'm Australian. It is our extra-special mythical animal! Here's a description from www.cryptozoology.com. It's quite long, so I'll attempt spoilers.

The Bunyip: Mythical Beast, Modern-day Monster
By Matthew J. Eaton

Dreamtime Bunyip
The Aborigines Dreamtime stories of creation were full of fantastic and magical beasts; the Bunyip was one of the beasts. In Dreamtime the Bunyip was a spirit, which inhabited river, lakes, swamps, and billabongs (former parts of rivers that were left behind when the course of the river was altered). Like other beasts in Dreamtime, the Bunyip was malevolent towards human beings. The Bunyip would defend it's watery home from all who invaded it, normally devouring the invader. At night the Bunyip was said to go and prey upon women and children. Because the Bunyip was such a threat to the Aborigines of the time whenever its terrifying bellowing cry was heard Aborigines steered clear of any water sources.


Australian stamp commemorating the bunyip
To the Aborigines the Bunyip was a beast of many different shapes and sizes. Some Bunyips were covered in feathers; some even had scales like crocodiles. Common features in most Aboriginal drawings of Bunyips are a horse-like tail, flippers, and tusks like the ones found on walruses. Modern Bunyip

The settler's view of the Bunyip varies greatly from that of the Aborigines. Whereas the Dreamtime Bunyip was a fierce man-killer, the more modern view sees them are herbivorous grazing animals. The Aborigine's fear of Bunyip can probably be traced back to a known aquatic man-killer, the saltwater crocodile. Settlers also report two different kinds of Bunyips. The more common of the two has a dog-like face and a long shaggy coat. The second and more rare of the Bunyips is the reported to have a long maned neck, as well as a shaggy coat. As to not create confusion between the two Bunyips; the common Bunyip will be called the Dog-faced Bunyip, and the rarer Bunyip will be called the Long-necked Bunyip.


A sketch on the bunyip by Giorgio Tarditi
Range
The Dog-faced Bunyip is commonly thought to inhabit lakes and rivers in New South Wales, Victoria, and Australian Capital Territory. There have also been a few Dog-Faced Bunyip sightings on the off shore island state of Tasmania. Reports of the Long-necked Bunyip have only come from New South Wales. No mystery animals fitting the description of the Bunyip have come from Iran Jaya or Papua New Guinea. Sightings

Most sightings of the Bunyip occurred during the 19th century, with a few sighting in the past century. One morning in November 1821, E.S. Hall saw a Dog-faced Bunyip with jet-black hair in the marsh running into Lake Bathurst South, New South Wales.

In 1847 a young herdsmen saw a Long-necked Bunyip grazing while he was looking for some cows in a flooded area. A local settler, George Hobler, reported the young herdsman's story to the Sydney Morning Herald. According to the report made Hobler:

"It was about as big as a six months' old calf, of a dark brown colour, a long neck, and long pointed head; it had large ears which pricked up when it perceived him (the herdsmen); had a thick mane of hair from the head down the neck, and two large tusks. He turned to run away, and this creature equally alarmed ran off too, and from glance he took at it he describes it as having an awkward shambling gallop; the forequarters of the animal were very large in proportion to the hindquarters, and it had a large tail."
He took two men to the place next morning to look for its track, which they described as broad and square, somewhat like what the spread hand of a man would make in soft muddy ground.


The Bunyip from Aborigines Dreamtime stories of creation
In 1852 a Dog-faced Bunyip was observed in Lake Tiberias, Tasmania. It was described as being 4 to 4½ feet long, with a head like a bulldog and black shaggy fur. While rowing across Great Lake, Tasmania, Charles Headlam and a friend almost bumped into a Dog-faced Bunyip. They described it as being about the size of a fully-grown sheepdog, and having two small wing-like flippers. The Bunyip stayed at the top of the water until it swam out of view.

In 1872 three men watched a Dog-faced Bunyip swimming in Midgeon Lagoon, New South Wales for about a half-hour. One of the men gave the following first-hand description to the Wagga Wagga Advertiser: Half as long again as an ordinary retriever dog; the hair all over its body was jet-black and shining, its coat was very long, the hair spreading out on the surface of the water for about 5 inches, and floating loosely as the creature rose and fell by its own motion. I could not detect any tail, and the hair about its head was too long and glossy to admit of my seeing its eyes; the ears were well marked.

In 1886 some horsemen were fording a river near Canberra reported seeing a Dog-faced Bunyip, which was about the size of a dog and had a white coat. They threw stones at the Bunyip until it was out of sight. A similar beast was shot at in New South Wales; it retreated into a lagoon and was said to make a grunting sound. Then in 1890 an expedition by the Melbourne Zoo failed to capture a Bunyip commonly seen in the Euroa district near Victoria. Bernard Heuvelmans reports Bunyip sightings from as recently as 1932 near large hydroelectric dams in Tasmania. The Line Up

Now that we've gone over the different sightings of the Bunyip we must ask ourselves if it truly exists as evidence suggests, then what is it?


A Diprotodon skeleton, an ancient marsupial that resembles the bunyip
Prehistoric Survivor
It seems that there is one extinct animal out there to explain every cryptid now days. The Bunyip is no exception. Diprotodons were large rhino sized plant eating marsupials, which went extinct about 10,000 years ago. Since nearly everything in Australia is a marsupial, why not the Bunyip? Much like the modern view of the Bunyip, the diprotodon was a grazing animal. Lifestyle wise it has been compared to modern cattle, rhinos, and tapirs.

Officially there is only one known species of diprotodon (Diprotodon australis) and it is unclear if it was a somewhat aquatic animal. Although some researchers believe that if diprotodon did survive then it evolved into something like a marsupial hippo. If this is true then a diprotodon could indeed be a Bunyip. Appearance wise the diprotodon is similar to the Bunyip. It had a face somewhat like that of a dog, as well as a somewhat shaggy coat; both major traits of the Bunyip. So could the Bunyip be a diprotodon? Yes, but first we would have to accept the fact that diprotodons survived and evolved into a hippo-like animal. That alone could be a hard theory to stomach.

Wayward or New Seal
Of all the animals that frequent Australia, seals fit the description of the Bunyip the best. Researchers have used the seal to explain the Bunyip in one of two ways. The first of these theories seems the more likely one. This is the theory that seals worked their way into the interior lakes and swamps through rivers. Then people who are not use to seeing seals misidentify them for the Bunyip. The second and more radical of the two theories is that long ago seals did work their way into the interior, but somehow became trapped. Eventually these trapped seals adapted to their freshwater conditions, and fur coats would eventually replace their blubber. If we accept this theory then it could also explain the Bunyip.

As stated earlier the first seal theory does seem the more likely of the two. The fact that most Bunyips are seeing swimming in the water and only their heads are visible strengthens the misidentified seal theory. But it is those few land sightings of Bunyips, which proves that not all sightings are of just seals. The search for the Bunyip's identity continues.


A modern art sculpture of the bunyip
Man In the Swamp
It is thought that most of the sightings of Bunyips from the early parts of the 20th century were of nothing more then fugitives hiding in the swamps and billabongs. The billabongs were a prime area to hide from the long arm of the law, since they are such inhospitable places. Those hiding there were called swaggies, whenever they heard something coming their way they would take cover under the water. Once they thought the coast was clear they would rise up out the water, normally covered in muck and weeds. Anyone who was still around would most certainly be frightened by the whole ordeal and run off. So some Bunyips weren't Bunyips at all just men hiding in the billabongs. Just like the seal theory, not all Bunyip reports can be written off as nothing more than swaggies. Conclusion

The Bunyip is one of those animals that can't just be written off as myth. The fact that reports of them go back to the Dreamtime stories proves this, the sightings by settlers strengthens it. What we have is a genuine mystery aquatic animal here, or should I say we did. With the lack of reports in recent years it seems the Bunyip may have gone extinct. If this is true then it will be a great tragedy to cryptozoology. Here is a truly magnificent animal that may have gone extinct before its existence was even proven. Until a dedicated researcher comes along, and is willing to waste money and man-hours searching will we discover the truth behind the story of the Bunyip.

Selected Sources:
Cryptozoology A to Z, Coleman, Loren & Clark, Jerome ©1999
Reader's Digest "Strange Stories, Amazing Facts"
The Unexplained, Shuker, Karl P.N.
Skeptic's Dictionary. http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/bunyips.html
The Origin of the Bunyip. http://www.drizabone.com.au/legends/bunyip.html
Lycos Excyclopedia: Oceania Index. http://versaware.animalszone.lycos.com/continents/oceania.asp
 

Fenolio

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Wow that is a whole lot of text. Darn my laziness!
Sea monsters. (Most likely real)
Forest Faries. (Could be real)
Gryphons.(Not a chance in hell)
 

Xiorell

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Ahhh nice thread mate, Cryptozoology being an interest of mine, I shall be sure to post something after walking my dog!
 

Rakkana

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Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
 

tombman888

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Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
 

Rakkana

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tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
 

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Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
How would they ignite the hydrogen to breathe it out as fire. This is an interesting theory...and quite exciting

In terms of fairies a fair wack of the social research into the belief of them surrounds the belief that they stole good looking babies and young children on a regular occasion and raised them as their own. They replaced the stolen children with "changelings" that would appear to become sick and die a short time later. Some research theorises that this was a way of explaining the high mortality rates of children. I did some research into this at uni. I'll have to dig up the books I used...

Fairies in general are just nasty nasty creatures...kidnapping, killing, being all spiteful towards everyone. There's relatively few of the things that are documented as doing good. Even then if you upset them they were meant to get nasty towards you...
 

Rakkana

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Sproingy said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
How would they ignite the hydrogen to breathe it out as fire. This is an interesting theory...and quite exciting
I think it was something to do with them chewing on platinum deposits. Or flint. I can't remember.
Something to do with them eating a certain kind of dirt and it getting caught in their teeth. Then they would bask these teeth together to make a spark.

To stop the fire going back down the mouth and into the organ they would have a similar throat/tongue to the crocodile. It would in essence close up.

I'm sorry I can't remember much more. Aside from the origins.
 

tombman888

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Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
i haven't actually seen it, i was told by a friend and he was kinda vague about it. I still can't find it, could you send me a link?
 

Rakkana

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tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
i haven't actually seen it, i was told by a friend and he was kinda vague about it. I still can't find it, could you send me a link?
Sorry no. I have it on DvD. Got it from a bookstore.

I'm not 100% where it is at the moment anyway. If I find it I'll send you a message with it's name.
 

tombman888

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Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
i haven't actually seen it, i was told by a friend and he was kinda vague about it. I still can't find it, could you send me a link?
Sorry no. I have it on DvD. Got it from a bookstore.

I'm not 100% where it is at the moment anyway. If I find it I'll send you a message with it's name.
Ahh ok sweet.
 

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For no particular reason, I will do this in reverse order. Most, if not all, of the following is speculation
Zombies: inconcieveable, if I saw one I'd worry about bigger things to come with horns and hellfire.

Slenderman (and the like): About as real as you let them be.

Grief gnomes: I can't prove it, but I'm almost sure they exist. (they're what I like to blame, anyway)
Ever had something happen (usually in a game) that really shouldn't have? An item vanishing from your inventory, your spells always failing, an NPC just not reacting as it should, an enemy suddenly finding itself with overwhelming strength/unavoidable attacks for no apparent reason, PSYCHIC GUARDS, the Witch parking herself just outside the saferoom, etc.? I think it's grief gnomes, smarmy little bastards programmed in to make life a misery, sometimes working with the glitch gremlin to sure things do not go smoothly.
Ex: Playing Force unleashed, (FU, for short) I simply couldn't get Galen (starkiller's real name, I'm told) to throw things properly in spite of perfect pitch only minutes before.
"Oh, you want to throw stuff at that AT-ST, do ya? well how about we ignore the targeting system and direction you're throwing in favor of bouncing things off the walls in the hopes they bounce off hard enough in the right direction to do a little damage, and when you're done, I'll spawn another one!"
In reality, missing a sock? can't find your keys? internet connection playing jumprope? car alarms going off all the time? Grief gnomes, I say!

If that mess doesn't count, rodents of unusual size very well could exist.
 

Folio

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Pshaw, I'll go to France to fight the Tarasque! (Preferably with an army of Tengu, those kick butt.)

But if you want balls to the wall... Let's go with something more... biblical. The Leviathan! No ship can beat a monster of this magnitude for it is the pet of The Lord. Steam comes from his nostrils and his gaping mouth can swallow a ship and crew whole.

I don' know how to fight it cap'tain. Aye, meetin' this thing will be the end of us all!
 

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tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
i haven't actually seen it, i was told by a friend and he was kinda vague about it. I still can't find it, could you send me a link?
Sorry no. I have it on DvD. Got it from a bookstore.

I'm not 100% where it is at the moment anyway. If I find it I'll send you a message with it's name.
Ahh ok sweet.
I've read that Chinese Dragons had an organ at the top of their head which made it possible for them to fly. Japanese Dragons, however, don't have this and cannot fly. Odd how they look the same, yet do not share this trait.
 

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I think it was something to do with them chewing on platinum deposits. Or flint. I can't remember.
Something to do with them eating a certain kind of dirt and it getting caught in their teeth. Then they would bask these teeth together to make a spark.

To stop the fire going back down the mouth and into the organ they would have a similar throat/tongue to the crocodile. It would in essence close up.

I'm sorry I can't remember much more. Aside from the origins.
That's so cool...Now I want to see this doco too...
 

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Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
Not hydrogen, methane. Yes, I've seen the documentary. Instead of farting or burping, they store the methane in a separate lung, methane, being lighter than air (and highly flammable), with the addition of bird-like hollow bones, would allow them to fly, also, by eating a catalyst, like platinum, they could exhale the methane, the catalyst would then ignite it and voila, firebreath. And to prevent the fire from going back into the throat, they would have some kind of "security hatch" the closes as soon as they stop breathing fire, much like the hatch alligators have to stop their lungs from filling up with water.

(I have only seen it once, by the way)

I think it was called "Dragons: A Fantasy made Real" and was produced by Animal Planet.
 

Rakkana

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chstens said:
Rakkana said:
tombman888 said:
Rakkana said:
Dragons. I watched a documentary which proved the possibility of them existing was there.
I second this. although, i believe they said that they wouldn't be able to fly if they did exist. =|
They said they could have hollow bones and an organ with bacteria that produce hydrogen. This could help them to fly.

The hydrogen organ could also be a theory for breathing fire.
Not hydrogen, methane. Yes, I've seen the documentary. Instead of farting or burping, they store the methane in a separate lung, methane, being lighter than air (and highly flammable), with the addition of bird-like hollow bones, would allow them to fly, also, by eating a catalyst, like platinum, they could exhale the methane, the catalyst would then ignite it and voila, firebreath. And to prevent the fire from going back into the throat, they would have some kind of "security hatch" the closes as soon as they stop breathing fire, much like the hatch alligators have to stop their lungs from filling up with water.

(I have only seen it once, by the way)
Thank god somebody with a better memory then me has seen it.
 

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I once read something on how zombies (in a modern day neurological sense. not a rise-from-the-dead sense) are a possibility. Ever since I read that I've been preparing for the apocolypse.