NASA Can't Find Its Moon Rocks

[Scarim Coral]

The solution- The next space mission from NASA is go to the moon to harvest the rocks. I mean those rocks are ain't going anywhere soon.

 

[Thaluikhain]

These rocks are difficult to replace, now that we haven't traveled to the Moon since 1972 and are likely not to return since the space shuttles are retired from service. Crap, we're not going to get any more moon rocks any time soon.

The Soviets have gathered (small) samples from the Moon using unmanned landers since then, mind. The Chinese keep mucking about with their space program, there is talk of them going to the Moon.

Also, as mentioned previously, shuttles aren't any real use in going to the moon anyway.

 

[TheDooD]

Carmen Sandiego still stealing priceless shit? I would have thought she would have a daughter by now.

 

[KirbyKrackle]

You know, the first thing I thought of when I read this was all the conspiricy nuts who went on about how the Moon Landing was faked. I never believed that, and still don't, but this is perhaps the most compelling reason to defend that theory ever....

One thing the goverment does well and takes seriously is bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy. Looking at this it does make for a compelling arguement that the goverment never took them seriously since it was a big fake and they just handed off a bunch of rocks and said "these are from the moon".

I look back at other goverment lies and how they turned out, like the whole "human flesh lampshade" that was shown off by the War Department as evidence of heinous Nazi war crimes during World War II. The goverment seemed to forget all about that whopper which is why someone was able to test it and prove that it was made out of goat skin, which has since put a lot of pressure on claims about Nazi War Crimes in general.

I doubt it means the moon landing was faked, but it does raise some interesting questions. Of course it might just mean that a lot of the specific "moon rocks" they loaned out were fake where they kept the real ones under closer watch and simply forgot about all the fakes they had passed out or something.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that the goverment would drop the ball quite that badly. For all goverment knocking, this is the kind of things it tends to be pretty anal about when it's real.

Actually, if it was fake they wouldn't let people, particularly scientists, have the rocks. Ever. That should be pretty obvious. The fact that they were so careless with these rocks means they're not particularly concerned that the wrong person will get hold of them and realize they were faked. Also, the article itself mentions that it's more than just moon rocks they didn't keep much track of. Oh holy shit, the entire NASA program must be fake! Asteroids don't exist! Mars is just a blinking light in the sky, not a planet! All the money that went to NASA was just to fund massive keggers!

You loons crack me up.

The Holocaust denial bullshit out of nowhere less so. Yes, gosh, they were only taking parts of human beings as souvenirs you guys, not making lampshades. Obviously this somehow means it's doubtful that the Holocaust ever happened. WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Plazmatic]

You know, the first thing I thought of when I read this was all the conspiricy nuts who went on about how the Moon Landing was faked. I never believed that, and still don't, but this is perhaps the most compelling reason to defend that theory ever....

One thing the goverment does well and takes seriously is bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy. Looking at this it does make for a compelling arguement that the goverment never took them seriously since it was a big fake and they just handed off a bunch of rocks and said "these are from the moon".

I look back at other goverment lies and how they turned out, like the whole "human flesh lampshade" that was shown off by the War Department as evidence of heinous Nazi war crimes during World War II. The goverment seemed to forget all about that whopper which is why someone was able to test it and prove that it was made out of goat skin, which has since put a lot of pressure on claims about Nazi War Crimes in general.

I doubt it means the moon landing was faked, but it does raise some interesting questions. Of course it might just mean that a lot of the specific "moon rocks" they loaned out were fake where they kept the real ones under closer watch and simply forgot about all the fakes they had passed out or something.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that the goverment would drop the ball quite that badly. For all goverment knocking, this is the kind of things it tends to be pretty anal about when it's real.

Actually, if it was fake they wouldn't let people, particularly scientists, have the rocks. Ever. That should be pretty obvious. The fact that they were so careless with these rocks means they're not particularly concerned that the wrong person will get hold of them and realize they were faked. Also, the article itself mentions that it's more than just moon rocks they didn't keep much track of. Oh holy shit, the entire NASA program must be fake! Asteroids don't exist! Mars is just a blinking light in the sky, not a planet! All the money that went to NASA was just to fund massive keggers!

You loons crack me up.

The Holocaust denial bullshit out of nowhere less so. Yes, gosh, they were only taking parts of human beings as souvenirs you guys, not making lampshades. Obviously this somehow means it's doubtful that the Holocaust ever happened. WTF is wrong with you?

ah yes, the stupidity of denialists, they think that there being skeptics by looking for information that proves THEIR side. Well, hate to break it to you Therumancer, but that's not what a skeptic does, a skeptic looks to proof AGAINST their side, and if they cant find that proof it is then where they can say "I'm skeptical about this", and again, as KirbyKrackle already said, this actually proves that NASA did go to the moon.

 

[orangeapples]

Really? Are you kidding me? Blockbuster had a better system. If a 16 year old could work a system to see which movies were loaned out to which people, how could rocket scientists not know how to keep track of invaluable rocks? I thought these people were supposed to be smart.

 

[Therumancer]

You know, the first thing I thought of when I read this was all the conspiricy nuts who went on about how the Moon Landing was faked. I never believed that, and still don't, but this is perhaps the most compelling reason to defend that theory ever....

One thing the goverment does well and takes seriously is bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy. Looking at this it does make for a compelling arguement that the goverment never took them seriously since it was a big fake and they just handed off a bunch of rocks and said "these are from the moon".

I look back at other goverment lies and how they turned out, like the whole "human flesh lampshade" that was shown off by the War Department as evidence of heinous Nazi war crimes during World War II. The goverment seemed to forget all about that whopper which is why someone was able to test it and prove that it was made out of goat skin, which has since put a lot of pressure on claims about Nazi War Crimes in general.

I doubt it means the moon landing was faked, but it does raise some interesting questions. Of course it might just mean that a lot of the specific "moon rocks" they loaned out were fake where they kept the real ones under closer watch and simply forgot about all the fakes they had passed out or something.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that the goverment would drop the ball quite that badly. For all goverment knocking, this is the kind of things it tends to be pretty anal about when it's real.

Actually, if it was fake they wouldn't let people, particularly scientists, have the rocks. Ever. That should be pretty obvious. The fact that they were so careless with these rocks means they're not particularly concerned that the wrong person will get hold of them and realize they were faked. Also, the article itself mentions that it's more than just moon rocks they didn't keep much track of. Oh holy shit, the entire NASA program must be fake! Asteroids don't exist! Mars is just a blinking light in the sky, not a planet! All the money that went to NASA was just to fund massive keggers!

You loons crack me up.

The Holocaust denial bullshit out of nowhere less so. Yes, gosh, they were only taking parts of human beings as souvenirs you guys, not making lampshades. Obviously this somehow means it's doubtful that the Holocaust ever happened. WTF is wrong with you?

Read the very beginning of what I said first. I never claimed the moon landing was faked so relax.

As far as the holocaust goes, that's another cup of tea entirely. What we're looking at is more a situation where the extent of it was a lie, exagerrated for purposes of propaganda, rather than saying the entire thing did not happen.

The general myth of The Holocaust is that the Nazis rather mechanically rounded people up, marched them into camps, stuffed them into gas chambers or giant ovens, and killed them en-masse. The problem with this theory is manyfold, among them the simple fact that there are legions of holocaust survivors who have shown off their tatoos and such. If this was a mechanical slaughter, then there would be no reason for long term marking and prisoner identification, never mind any survivors. Things like the human flesh lampshades, portable bone grinding devices (another one), and similar things that all fit into the mythology have all been proven false after the fact, putting a lot of the specific claims into doubt.

What we know is that large camps operated, they were highly unpleasnt, and a lot of people died. When tracked down a lot of the stories about the Nazis doing horrific things to the prisoners have proven to be false, or faked for purposes of propaganda. Most likely the concentration camps were effectively work camps where a lot of people died due to the conditions. That's a horrible thing, but somewhat differant from "murder factories where psycho-killers make handicrafts out of the dead prisoners".

Honestly, I mostly only care about it because of the propaganda aspects. To me it demonstrates what you need to do to destroy an entire culture/way of thinking, you need to demonize it beyond all believe so the people on the ground can go about wiping it out entirely. The realities of war so to speak. I'm of the opinion similar things should have been going on with the US's current wars.

To be honest from all the research I've done Japan was the country that performed all the really sadistic and flashy war crimes through things like "Unit 731" (look it up) which was simply the most infamous of a number of similar units. Not to mention what they did to the people of Korea and China... while war crimes like the rape of "comfort women" made the situation in China more infamous, truthfully they were a lot more sadistic to people like
the Koreans.

You hear less about what Japan did (and I think a lot of it was folded into accusations againt Germany) because we need Japan directly. See we occupy that country to this day despite pretensions of their independance (they are arguably a US puppet nation, just a well disguised one). The US military pretty much occupies Japan in huge numbers as it acts as our major foothold into the Far East, with a ton of naval bases intended to occupy in that part of the world, it's pretty much our first line against nations like China and Russia (right in their back yard so to speak). We downplay what happened with Japan (and allow them to downplay it) as part of trying to maintain that foothold as peacefully as possible.

As far as NASA throwing massive Keggers, understand something, even when dealing with loons who don't believe in the moon landing, nobody really claims that NASA itself has done nothing, just not that. It's involvement with Satellites and such alone would arguably justify it's budget. A lot of awesome tech does indeed come out of the space program.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Big deal. There's a zillion of them in space.

Why don't we do some exploring, eh?

 

[CapitalistPig]

Great idea NASA lets waste more of the tax payers money cleaning up your messes. how about we just dont waste money on you at all????? Robot in space no men on mars. thats my mantra.

 

[CapitalistPig]

You know, the first thing I thought of when I read this was all the conspiricy nuts who went on about how the Moon Landing was faked. I never believed that, and still don't, but this is perhaps the most compelling reason to defend that theory ever....

One thing the goverment does well and takes seriously is bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy. Looking at this it does make for a compelling arguement that the goverment never took them seriously since it was a big fake and they just handed off a bunch of rocks and said "these are from the moon".

I look back at other goverment lies and how they turned out, like the whole "human flesh lampshade" that was shown off by the War Department as evidence of heinous Nazi war crimes during World War II. The goverment seemed to forget all about that whopper which is why someone was able to test it and prove that it was made out of goat skin, which has since put a lot of pressure on claims about Nazi War Crimes in general.

I doubt it means the moon landing was faked, but it does raise some interesting questions. Of course it might just mean that a lot of the specific "moon rocks" they loaned out were fake where they kept the real ones under closer watch and simply forgot about all the fakes they had passed out or something.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that the goverment would drop the ball quite that badly. For all goverment knocking, this is the kind of things it tends to be pretty anal about when it's real.

Actually, if it was fake they wouldn't let people, particularly scientists, have the rocks. Ever. That should be pretty obvious. The fact that they were so careless with these rocks means they're not particularly concerned that the wrong person will get hold of them and realize they were faked. Also, the article itself mentions that it's more than just moon rocks they didn't keep much track of. Oh holy shit, the entire NASA program must be fake! Asteroids don't exist! Mars is just a blinking light in the sky, not a planet! All the money that went to NASA was just to fund massive keggers!

You loons crack me up.

The Holocaust denial bullshit out of nowhere less so. Yes, gosh, they were only taking parts of human beings as souvenirs you guys, not making lampshades. Obviously this somehow means it's doubtful that the Holocaust ever happened. WTF is wrong with you?

Read the very beginning of what I said first. I never claimed the moon landing was faked so relax.

As far as the holocaust goes, that's another cup of tea entirely. What we're looking at is more a situation where the extent of it was a lie, exagerrated for purposes of propaganda, rather than saying the entire thing did not happen.

The general myth of The Holocaust is that the Nazis rather mechanically rounded people up, marched them into camps, stuffed them into gas chambers or giant ovens, and killed them en-masse. The problem with this theory is manyfold, among them the simple fact that there are legions of holocaust survivors who have shown off their tatoos and such. If this was a mechanical slaughter, then there would be no reason for long term marking and prisoner identification, never mind any survivors. Things like the human flesh lampshades, portable bone grinding devices (another one), and similar things that all fit into the mythology have all been proven false after the fact, putting a lot of the specific claims into doubt.

What we know is that large camps operated, they were highly unpleasnt, and a lot of people died. When tracked down a lot of the stories about the Nazis doing horrific things to the prisoners have proven to be false, or faked for purposes of propaganda. Most likely the concentration camps were effectively work camps where a lot of people died due to the conditions. That's a horrible thing, but somewhat differant from "murder factories where psycho-killers make handicrafts out of the dead prisoners".

Honestly, I mostly only care about it because of the propaganda aspects. To me it demonstrates what you need to do to destroy an entire culture/way of thinking, you need to demonize it beyond all believe so the people on the ground can go about wiping it out entirely. The realities of war so to speak. I'm of the opinion similar things should have been going on with the US's current wars.

To be honest from all the research I've done Japan was the country that performed all the really sadistic and flashy war crimes through things like "Unit 731" (look it up) which was simply the most infamous of a number of similar units. Not to mention what they did to the people of Korea and China... while war crimes like the rape of "comfort women" made the situation in China more infamous, truthfully they were a lot more sadistic to people like
the Koreans.

You hear less about what Japan did (and I think a lot of it was folded into accusations againt Germany) because we need Japan directly. See we occupy that country to this day despite pretensions of their independance (they are arguably a US puppet nation, just a well disguised one). The US military pretty much occupies Japan in huge numbers as it acts as our major foothold into the Far East, with a ton of naval bases intended to occupy in that part of the world, it's pretty much our first line against nations like China and Russia (right in their back yard so to speak). We downplay what happened with Japan (and allow them to downplay it) as part of trying to maintain that foothold as peacefully as possible.

As far as NASA throwing massive Keggers, understand something, even when dealing with loons who don't believe in the moon landing, nobody really claims that NASA itself has done nothing, just not that. It's involvement with Satellites and such alone would arguably justify it's budget. A lot of awesome tech does indeed come out of the space program.

We took the live footage on the moon in my physics class and proved with the elapsed time with vacuum space that the only way with which the objects could have fallen at the velocity they did was on the moon.... so yeah argue against physics.

 

[Don Reba]

NASA can borrow some from the Russians.