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Dags90

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I'm glad this thread popped up, because I've been sitting on this demotivator for years.

And that's all I have to say about that.
 

Jonluw

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
Jonluw said:
I don't think they ment "they're just drivin around in circles, I could do that". I rather think they ment, "The track is oval/circular, and the races take forever; that's not very exciting to watch".
I did, because it isn't - I posit that watching cars drive in a loop for hours is only marginally more interesting than watching paint dry.
Now don't be hating on paint. If you manage to get really high on paint-fumes beforehand, I imagine watching paint dry can be very interesting.

Gildan Bladeborn said:
I am routinely baffled by the appeal of video games that simulate those races - if I'm going to drive a car in a situation wherein I am essentially immortal and allowed to cheat death due to it all being a simulation, I'm going to be driving the wrong way through traffic, causing massive crashes, strapping guns on and blasting things - I sure as hell wouldn't choose to drive on a roughly circular course over and over. At least if you were actually doing that, you get the sensation of speed and the thrill of doing something dangerous, but simulating it in a video game strikes me as an exercise in monotony. You're playing a video game for crying out loud!

Apparently some people enjoy simulated boredom.
Me and a buddy tried racing on the Nissan speedway track in Forza 2, with the fastest cars in the game. We managed 60 rounds before we set of in opposite directions.
God, the monotonous sound of the engines as we drove at full speed constantly.

Oval racing is just not interesting to watch.

Racing on regular tracks can be quite fun though. More turns, more variables, more variety, more excitement.
 

Chewster

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RAKtheUndead said:
chewbacca1010 said:
And don't take things so personally, while we're at it.

Thanks kindly!
When somebody pushes their luck on something I've written a Probing The Inaccuracies article on, they're not going to get any leeway from me. There's a reason why I write the articles apart from personal satisfaction.
How is anyone "pushing their luck"? Someone started a thread where they voiced their opinion on something.

Sorry, but just because you don't agree with someone saying something is boring (something you were wrong about anyway, we are talking about NASCAR specifically, not racing in general, as I already pointed out so your article isn't even relevant to the OP) doesn't mean anyone is "pushing their luck". Some people find video games boring and I do not and for some reason, I'm OK with that.

Honestly man. Relax.
 

SilkySkyKitten

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Jonluw said:
Me and a buddy tried racing on the Nissan speedway track in Forza 2, with the fastest cars in the game. We managed 60 rounds before we set of in opposite directions.
The Forza games are truly a terrible way to properly experience oval racing due to the extremely limited amount of cars competing at one time. Forza has only about 8 or so cars on a track at one time, while actual NASCAR races have about 42 cars on a track at one time (not including the 5-20 cars that might get knocked out due to accidents during the course of a race). Plus, in Forza all of the competing cars always race in a way that avoids other competitors without really bunching up into tight packs, so you don't get the tightly packed groups of cars you see in something like an actual NASCAR race.

Nissan Speedway also isn't the best representation of most real-world oval courses due to the fact that you don't need to brake at all, as even most NASCAR courses require some form of brakeing in order to even make it around a single turn. The only oval course in the Forza games that truly represents most real world oval courses is Twin Ring Motegi, and even that isn't a proper taste of what most NASCAR courses are like.

Try driving around THAT in a NASCAR stock-car without using your brakes.

If you truly want to feel what oval racing is really like, try racing against a full grid in something like the ol' Papyrus NASCAR Racing simulators. It may be monotonous against only one other person/a few other people, but when you are tightly packed within a group of 10-or-so cars with only a few inches to spare between you and the guys in front of you, next to you, and behind you, monotonous is word you won't even consider using.
 

Jonluw

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Skywolf09 said:
Jonluw said:
Me and a buddy tried racing on the Nissan speedway track in Forza 2, with the fastest cars in the game. We managed 60 rounds before we set of in opposite directions.
The Forza games are truly a terrible way to properly experience oval racing due to the extremely limited amount of cars competing at one time. Forza has only about 8 or so cars on a track at one time, while actual NASCAR races have about 42 cars on a track at one time (not including the 5-20 cars that might get knocked out due to accidents during the course of a race). Plus, in Forza all of the competing cars always race in a way that avoids other competitors without really bunching up into tight packs, so you don't get the tightly packed groups of cars you see in something like an actual NASCAR race.

Nissan Speedway also isn't the best representation of most real-world oval courses due to the fact that you don't need to brake at all, as even most NASCAR courses require some form of brakeing in order to even make it around a single turn. The only oval course in the Forza games that truly represents most real world oval courses is Twin Ring Motegi, and even that isn't a proper taste of what most NASCAR courses are like.

Try driving around THAT in a NASCAR stock-car without using your brakes.

If you truly want to feel what oval racing is really like, try racing against a full grid in something like the ol' Papyrus NASCAR Racing simulators. It may be monotonous against only one other person/a few other people, but when you are tightly packed within a group of 10-or-so cars with only a few inches to spare between you and the guys in front of you, next to you, and behind you, monotonous is word you won't even consider using.
I am aware that the Forza games don't simulate NASCAR well. It was actually just me and my friend playing, with no AI controlled cars at all. The reason I wrote the first post there, is that playing NASCAR in Forza is a lot like watching NASCAR in real life.

I am not arguing that playing a proper NASCAR game is boring, but rather that watching a race is. And I think the excitement of playing on the Nissan Speedway in Forza can easily be likened to that of watching a race.
 

DustyDrB

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It's not fun to watch, but the single biggest hurdle for me to ever even give it an honest chance: the rednecks. Holy hell, the rednecks. I will go far out of my way to not being associated with that group.