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Ed130 The Vanguard

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Another vote for Deep Space 9, the fisrt season is a little janky (I think Gene was still around at that point) but it really kicks off with the lead up to the Domnion War.

There were also some rumors that DS9 was greenlit due ti Bablyon 5 and the two series share some similarties (both set on a space station, religion playing a role, large story arcs, etc)

The characters also were fun to watch such as Odo and Quarks 'straight cop and known con-man routine as well as Garak's 'just a humble tailor, totally not an exiled member of Cardassia's feared Obsidian Order' performance.

Also: Red Dwarf is a riot.
 

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wolf thing said:
You should read some books, that is the best way to get in to science fiction, especially speculative fiction which people rarely mate these days.

I would recommended, "the mote in gods eye" by larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, "starship troopers" by Robert Heinlein and "Foundation" by Issac Asimov. And there is much more.

As for tv shows there is doctor who which is fun but it is more of a family show and leans to the pulpy side of the genera, which isnt really what science fiction does best at least not what i think it does best.
ah, someone who knows his stuff! ^^
i as said in above quote, there are a lot of others to read, too, but i would like to highly recommend Stanislaw Lem's books - if you like to drift off a *bit* into the philosophical... spaces ;)


everything else watchable (including the entire Star Trek (don't miss out on DS9 and VOY!) EXCEPT for the latest series which - rightfully! - originally didn't have Star Trek in its name) already has been mentioned, even Lexx, so... yeah, there you go. should take you some time to watch/read all this stuff

p.s.: Heinlein's Starship Troopers is quite a bit different from the movie; even if you know it, read it! if you enjoyed the movie, do not, under any circumstances, even if your life is threatened, watch the third one - the second gets ok after a rough start, but the third... it just hurts remembering watching it. the animated one is quite alright, though :)

edit for p.p.s.: i have no idea whether they're available in english, but there's a some 30 books numbering german sci-fi series; "Mark Brandis" - rather old, thus a bit more "adventorous" than contemporary sci-fi
 

Kpt._Rob

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Star Trek is absolutely the direction you should go. Don't save it for later, enjoy it for now!

TNG is of course one of the absolute best series. I don't feel like there's any real need for me to vouch for its quality. It's got Patrick Stewart as Jean Luc Picard, Brent Spiner as Lt. Data, Michael Dorn as Worf, and of course LaVar Mother F***ing Burton as Geordy LaForge. Plus you've got recurrent characters such as Guinan (played brilliantly by the one and only Whoopi Goldberg), the very trolly godlike entity Q, and the hilarious Lwaxana Troi (mother of Deanna Troi, the excellent Betazoid counselor). You've also got things to look forward to such as the Borg, and, just because it bares mentioning again, the appearances of Q.

Having said that Deep Space 9 (DS9) is probably my favorite of the series. While Captain Sisko will never be as good as Captain Picard, and Lt. Dax can't hope to be as awesome a science officer as Lt. Data, the show more than makes up for it with its more focused narrative. Unlike the Enterprise (which travels all over), DS9 is a stationary space station hovering above Bajor and not too far from the borders of the Cardassian Empire. It is, of course, also right next to the worm hole which connects the Alpha Quadrant (federation territory) to the Gamma Quadrant (ruled by The Dominion). You'll get a much better feel for the peoples who come from these various forces, and start to understand and love the region of space which DS9 inhabits. And it offers some excellent characters of its own. Captain Sisko is still brilliant, and in later seasons you'll find a familiar face in Worf (O'Brien from the enterprise is also on the station as the engineering chief, and he'll grow on you quite a lot). But you'll also get the station's shape shifting security chief Odo, who's a really fun character. And replacing the stoic bartender roll played by Goldberg is the station's hilarious money grubbing Ferengi, Quark and his maligned brother Rom, running their bar/gambling hall/holosuites (think holochamber but somewhat skeezier and rented by the hour). There is also the recurrent roll of the ex-Cardassian Obsidian spy and assassin Garack, who has taken the role of DS9's tailor.

Really either series would be an excellent option. I put off watching Star Trek for a long time myself, but when I did finally start watching it I simply couldn't put it down. If you give it a try, I'm sure you'll find the same.
 
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Third vote for ST:DS9

I always found B5 to be far too cheesy for my tastes and personally liked DS:9 better in the end. It starts off as the usual episodic stuff in the first seasons but rapidly develops a really epic and lengthy storyline in the following seasons. Of course it isn't nearly as developed as that of B5 is but still comes very close at the end with mature topics and some really strong themes going into it. What ultimately made it better for me, though, are the characters that I always enjoyed a lot more than the ones in B5. Give it a watch. You won't regret it.

And then if you are out for a bit of experimentation and want something decidedly epic and discursive go and watch Legend Of The Galactic Heroes [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNyY2F1OurUbDBCtILijHYI52YAiIvSX5]. It's an anime that ran from 89 till 97 and was never released in the West meaning you can only get it with subtitles - and yet it is, by far, the best space opera I have seen. Four seasons with a consistent story and so packed with politico-philosophical themes, epic space-battles and likeable characters that it always hurts me that most people won't ever know this one. It's like War & Peace in space and tells a grand and epic storyline without the flashy bits like aliens or somesuch that one usually has when it comes to Sci-Fi. But if you are up to it it's a veritable feast to watch.
 

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Afaik you already named the important far future/deep space shows. So the only thing i can offer are some present/near future scifi shows that are good to great:

Alphas (good): A rather grounded superhero show with powers like enhanced strength or senses and a focus on different characters in a team and their interactions. Sadly, the first season (especially the first half) isn't that good, but after that it's quite entertaining. Another drawback are the budget limitations that show from time to time.

Fringe (good to great): One of my favorite scifi shows of the last years. The first season is rather boring, but the following ones are really good (especially season 2 and 3), both because of great ideas and great characters/actors. My big problem with the show is the complete lack of interest in the scientific concepts that are presented, which really hurt my immersion. The scientific concepts often make no sense at all and there is never even a try (e.g. technobabble) to mask that fact.

Person of Interest (good to great): A mix of entertaining case of the week and interesting scifi-plot about an ai. The second season is (once again) much better than the first with a stronger overarching plot and more scifi elements. My favorite thing about the show are the interesting, diverse villains and supporting characters (of which there are plenty).

Ghost in the shell - anime (great): While this is a anime, you don't have to enjoy animes to like it. The art style is great, the ideas are really interesting and the show consistently entertaining. The anime series consists of two seasons: "Stand Alone Complex" and "Stand Alone Complex:2nd Gig". There is more, but it's imo not that important.
 

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Andromeda is definitely worth a watch, spent a few weeks watching that every evening after work and enjoyed it a lot. About a captain trapped in time for a few hundred years trying to rebuild the alliance that he was part of and his sentient space ship.
 

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Mausthemighty said:
Where's the X-files? Has everyone forgotten about Mulder and Scully?
I was a big fan of the X-Files, series after series, and then (SPOILERS AHEAD)... as Mulder found his sister, but it wasn't, then again, but it wasn't, then again, and so on. And Scully, as the more level headed counterpoint to Mulder's "I want to believe", worked really well at the start, but for her to carry on refusing to believe and continually looking for the more 'reasonable' answer instead after the deluge of weird shit she saw through the episodes got more and more ridiculous. As the seasons went on I got less and less interested in the show and wasn't sad to see it finish.

After all that - if you stick with the early seasons I'd still recommend it :)

I'd also definitely recommend Red Dwarf - the first series is just setting the scene, by the second and third series the characters and stories were much better. Check the lists of most voted for episodes - Back to Reality is definitely a good one. (But again, I prefer the earlier series to the later ones)
 

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Hrm...

I would suggest maybe looking into The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. It's not strictly Sci-Fi but a fun show none the less. Same with the Adventures of Brisco County Jr.

Other than that, if you're not adverse to animated shows I'd highly recommend hunting down episodes of The Zeta Project.
 

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A few people have mentioned Star Trek: DS9 which is similar to Babylon 5 and picks up in the middle of the second season when the Dominion threat start coming up.

Cowboy Bebop - Is a anime Sci-Fi western which follows a crew of bounty hunters and the show is really good. The english version is even better than the japanese version (which is quite rare).

Kevin Zorbo is space (Andromeda) is not bad. Although i could never really take it seriously because of Kevin Zorbo but the back story isnt too bad.

Legend Of The Galactic Heroes IS AMAZINGLY deep and has an amazing story. If you love politics and space operas this is a good anime but the animation quality is a little dated, so don't let that set you back.

Banner of the Stars/Crest of the Stars series is another anime space Opera that is quite good, i am not sure however how much of it is available in english though.
 

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NoeL said:
Mcupobob said:
Farscape(Farscape was weird and fun, I liked the aliens on that show and weird cultures in the show. Not a favorite but none the less a decent show in my book)
I love Farscape. It admittedly had its fair share of misses (uninspired, cliche sci-fi plots) but its hits were out of the park. Had some really well-written story arcs (e.g. when Crichton is "cloned" and what plays out thereafter) and the chemistry between Browder and Black was amazing. They're both awesome actors.
I really liked farscape but my problem was when Crichton started acting like a superior asshole in season 2 or 3(can't remember) it almost killed the show for me. However the great episodes that did happen(like the Clone one) did save it for me. The show was unique which is why I saw it through the end.
 

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Space: Above and Beyond - kind of similar to the BSG,
Quantum Leap - Time Travel,
X-Files - Conspiracies, aliens, cryptic stuff, mad scientists.

MacGyver - not futuristic nor supernatural but utter competence porn, sci-fi enough in my eyes.

But yes, the best science fiction is on paper.
 

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wolf thing said:
I would recommended, "the mote in gods eye" by larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, "starship troopers" by Robert Heinlein and "Foundation" by Issac Asimov. And there is much more.
I'd add Baxter and Clarke's "The Light of Other Days." It's one of my favorites.

As far as tv goes, don't forget to go "mini." One of the few highlights of the Sci Fi Channel's "Hammer Era" was a few really well done sci fi miniseries. "Triangle" and "Battlestar Galactica" were in my opinion the weakest of them, and BSG got a whole series with 5 seasons and I liked Triangle. A more faithful adaptation of Frank Herbert's "Dune" was pretty good (although I perfer the Lynch version.) And they did "Children of Dune" too. "The Lost Room" was a very good series wich was a grittier version of their "Warehouse 13" Eureka spinoff. "Taken" was a Spielberg produced longer miniseries featuring some good acting and good storytelling in an X-Filesish fashion. But the gold star goes to "Tin Man" an updated look at the world of "The Wizard of Oz."
 

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Chromatic Aberration said:
Third vote for ST:DS9

I always found B5 to be far too cheesy for my tastes and personally liked DS:9 better in the end. It starts off as the usual episodic stuff in the first seasons but rapidly develops a really epic and lengthy storyline in the following seasons. Of course it isn't nearly as developed as that of B5 is but still comes very close at the end with mature topics and some really strong themes going into it. What ultimately made it better for me, though, are the characters that I always enjoyed a lot more than the ones in B5. Give it a watch. You won't regret it.
Write what you said down, post it on your wall and come back to it in 10 years. Trust me, everything becomes cheesy as it ages. Oh and...the characters in DS9 are more interesting? Come on man. Kira? Bashir? I could use many words to describe these people but "interesting" is not one of them. And Sisko is boring as fuck. On the other hand, O'Brien is awesome. But really and Odo too most of the time, I liked DS9 it's just nothing can top B5.
 

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Mcupobob said:
NoeL said:
Mcupobob said:
Farscape(Farscape was weird and fun, I liked the aliens on that show and weird cultures in the show. Not a favorite but none the less a decent show in my book)
I love Farscape. It admittedly had its fair share of misses (uninspired, cliche sci-fi plots) but its hits were out of the park. Had some really well-written story arcs (e.g. when Crichton is "cloned" and what plays out thereafter) and the chemistry between Browder and Black was amazing. They're both awesome actors.
I really liked farscape but my problem was when Crichton started acting like a superior asshole in season 2 or 3(can't remember) it almost killed the show for me. However the great episodes that did happen(like the Clone one) did save it for me. The show was unique which is why I saw it through the end.
I liked asshole Crichton. Given the rest of the crew (sans Aeryn) were children and/or simple-minded and that he was essentially going through a mental breakdown fighting off Harvey it made sense that he was a) incredibly frustrated, and b) didn't care who knew about it.
 

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I'm surprised you didn't like the new Galactica, actually. I'm watching it now and I can't bloody stop. It's basically like a soap opera in many respects, but it's a damn good one, IMO, and the political overtones, particularly for the time it was made, are sometimes so spot on.

Anyway, that's enough of that... :)

I agree that you should try out Star Trek: TNG, or Voyager. Those are my favorite Treks.
 

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You should watch Highlander: The Source.


Yeah, that battle. It was the most epic thing you've probably ever seen. I think I see goosebumps.
 

Julius Terrell

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My vote goes to 2001: A space Odyssey
Ghost in the Shell
Legend of Galactic Hero
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Now and Then,Here and There
Heroic Age
Kikaider
Blue Sub 6
Appleseed (original)

animation is not inferior in ANY WAY!!

These series and movies are dramas by nature but the get the job done.