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Ok so I've had this character name that I've used for years, and I'm altering his concept slightly.

He's actually my favorite and most beloved example of organic character creation, and it spawned from City of Heroes.

I was making a character, and built a Magic Invul/Stone Melee tanker. And I was idly thinking to myself "Ok so he's a magic hero, which means his powers might come from something like an amulet, yeah ok that works. Where did he get the amulet? His father, who was a hero previously, and who died. He ran around with the name The Fist, and was a terror to the local thugs. Now that he's dead, he passed on his legacy to his son, who took up the mantle, but renamed himself The Risen Fist. Yeah, ok cool I can work with that." And then I fleshed out his background even more, his personal hatred of that undead/frankenstein enemy faction in the game. The Vakossh I think? Or Vakalosh? Because that villain used his father's corpse to make one of the Eidolon villains from dead super heroes.

Sorry sort of rambling, I loved that character. xD

Anyway, the name was supposed to be a double meaning. 1, it was a statement that The Fist had returned, and had "arisen" to fight crime again in the spirit of his son. and 2. The image of a fist raised defiantly in the air.

I've always loved the name and the meaning it's got for me, and I'm going to be using him in an Exalted game with some friends of mine. He will be a Zenith caste as they are the most "tanky" type from the various castes.

Soooo, I was hoping someone who is fluent with Chinese could tell me how to spell Risen Fist.

I don't know if there are different words used for the two examples of "risen" i gave above, but if so, could you provide both please? The one for risen = returning from the dead or similar concept, and the one for risen = a hand lifted in the air.

I'm looking for how to spell it in it's English version, and pronounce it if possible.

Thanks!
 

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I'm not fluent in Chinese, so please don't get a tattoo of this or anything!

Fist is easy enough...quan.

Risen is more difficult. Lifting up a fist would be ju qi quan. Unfortunately the "qi" means "up" as in "raise up fist" and on the one hand I think its ungrammatical without it, but on the other hand doesn't make a natural sounding name. (In the same way that "Risen up fist" sounds worse than "Risen Fist").

For the other meaning fuhuo means resurrection, with the fu meaning doing something again and huo meaning life.

So it seems there are a few combinations you could go with...

Fuquan = the returning fist
Fuhuoquan = the resurrected fist
Fuhuo Juquan = the resurrected raised fist"
Fujuquan = the fist raised again.

As for pronounciation it's complicated but if you go with:

Fu as in Foo-fighters
Huo sounds like whore
Ju sounds like Jew
Quan is kind of tricky but try saying "chew an (apple)" really quickly. (If you want to be precise look up mandarin pronunciation on google, because this sound doesn't really have an equivalent in English).
 

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LaoJim said:
I'm not fluent in Chinese, so please don't get a tattoo of this or anything!
Heh, nah, I'm just wanting to have an accurate name for my Exalted character to use. Considering how heavily steeped in Chinese mythology the game setting is, it felt fitting to have his title be as accurate as possible to the english title he uses.

Fist is easy enough...quan.

LaoJim said:
Risen is more difficult. Lifting up a fist would be ju qi quan. Unfortunately the "qi" means "up" as in "raise up fist" and on the one hand I think its ungrammatical without it, but on the other hand doesn't make a natural sounding name. (In the same way that "Risen up fist" sounds worse than "Risen Fist").
Yeah that does sound slightly odd. Perhaps the word "lifted" ? or maybe "elevated" would work? Some word that would mean risen, above your head basically. xD

LaoJim said:
For the other meaning fuhuo means resurrection, with the fu meaning doing something again and huo meaning life.

So it seems there are a few combinations you could go with...

Fuquan = the returning fist
I like this one. In what context is "returning" used here? Returning like "I'm returning from a trip" ?
LaoJim said:
Fuhuoquan = the resurrected fist
Fuhuo Juquan = the resurrected raised fist"
Fujuquan = the fist raised again.
The resurrected fist sounds good, or at least easy. In the context of this Exalted character, he's more of a defiant character. Short bio on Exalted. The characters are all the "children of the sun god" basically, who has been absent from the world for a long time, and has been cast as the evil god by the current ruling dynasty. All of his children are hunted down and killed when they are found. But the time the game takes place, is a strong resurgence of the Solar Exalted coming into power. So he's much more of a "I'm a defiant power in the face of the evil dynasty" kind of "Risen Fist", not so much the "I'm the reimagining of my father's legacy"

So maybe the word Defiant would sound better in translation? The Defiant Fist, and I'll just mentally have it in my head as sort of translating into The Risen Fist, as in "Risen in defiance"


LaoJim said:
As for pronounciation it's complicated but if you go with:

Fu as in Foo-fighters
Huo sounds like whore
Ju sounds like Jew
Quan is kind of tricky but try saying "chew an (apple)" really quickly. (If you want to be precise look up mandarin pronunciation on google, because this sound doesn't really have an equivalent in English).
Cool, I'll look into that, if you could give me some variations on Defiant Fist? I'd really appreciate it. xD
 

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Once I get home from work. Can't help you with the pronunciation though; Cantonese here.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Fuquan = the returning fist I like this one. In what context is "returning" used here? Returning like "I'm returning from a trip" ?
Sorry, my Chinese is not always good enough to pick out all the nuances of a word so take anything here with a pinch of salt and my initial translation was possibly a little off. Basically Fu is a formal character that is roughly equivalent to the prefix "re-" in English words (i.e. resurrection, return, reapply ect.) basically meaning to do something again. As such its probably a good element to have in the name. As well as Fuhuo for resurrection, you could have Fuchou for revenge, Fuxing for restoration, or Fudan for "returning to former brilliance".

Happyninja42 said:
Cool, I'll look into that, if you could give me some variations on Defiant Fist? I'd really appreciate it. xD
Basic words are kang for "resistance/protest", fan for "opposition" and tiao for "provoke"
 

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LaoJim said:
Happyninja42 said:
Cool, I'll look into that, if you could give me some variations on Defiant Fist? I'd really appreciate it. xD
Basic words are kang for "resistance/protest", fan for "opposition" and tiao for "provoke"
So Resistant Fist would be

Kang Quan?

LaoJim said:
Fudan for "returning to former brilliance".
Oooh, I like that one. Fudan Quan correct?