Need some EYE-D!

[Daniel Ferguson]

You find a locked door, and the way to unlock it is to have a retinal scan done. Guess you could say you need some... EYE-D! HA!

So how would you procure some? Fantasy and Science Fiction methods are available. ANY way you can think of, in other words. Legal, ethical, or totally wrong.

PS: The person suggesting this is a sorceress. Someone in the group is conflicted: they like the gruesome factor of this, but they also like good ol' C4. It's a

Captcha: ham and cheese. I could TOTALLY work that in to my book somehow. PS: I'm writing a book. This is from it. I'm stuck.

 

[Autotelic]

If you have relatively short notice, you could probably kidnap someone and force them to do the scan. You could also kill them and use their dead body, or rip the eyes from their head, but the detector might be able to check for life signs.

In terms of fantasy, shape-shifting might be an option. This is particularly useful in infiltration since it's a perfect disguise (until someone recognises you and starts talking to you, that is).

 

[mrvenom]

Or do what Bruce Willis does in RED.. break the wall next to the lock and unlock the door from within. PROFIT!

 

[Thaluikhain]

The time honoured way is to hack the people, not the device. Find someone careless or uninterested and trick them to opening the thing for you.

Shapeshifting would only work if it was very, very accurate, though this applies in general. Imagine a person as much as you can, and you'd still likely get some details wrong, especially when it comes to their retinal patterns.

 

[Autotelic]

The time honoured way is to hack the people, not the device. Find someone careless or uninterested and trick them to opening the thing for you.

Shapeshifting would only work if it was very, very accurate, though this applies in general. Imagine a person as much as you can, and you'd still likely get some details wrong, especially when it comes to their retinal patterns.

Depends on how the shapeshifting works. If you're doing it from memory, failure is more likely. However, in Animorphs, for instance, new forms are obtained by touch, which absorbs the genetic material of whatever animal they want to become. If you're becoming someone's exact genetic copy, the retinal patterns should be the same.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Depends on how the shapeshifting works. If you're doing it from memory, failure is more likely. However, in Animorphs, for instance, new forms are obtained by touch, which absorbs the genetic material of whatever animal they want to become. If you're becoming someone's exact genetic copy, the retinal patterns should be the same.

Actually, no, like fingerprints, identical twins have different retinal patterns, despite the same genes.

As an aside, that wouldn't work in general, there are plenty of environmental things that can affect height, weight, skin tone, muscle density etc.

 

[Autotelic]

Depends on how the shapeshifting works. If you're doing it from memory, failure is more likely. However, in Animorphs, for instance, new forms are obtained by touch, which absorbs the genetic material of whatever animal they want to become. If you're becoming someone's exact genetic copy, the retinal patterns should be the same.

Actually, no, like fingerprints, identical twins have different retinal patterns, despite the same genes.

I have learned something new today.

Of course, the more I think about it, the more silly my idea seems. After all, what happens when a skinny guy copies a fat guy's genes? Does he end up as a skinny version of the fat guy? There'd need to be something to take that into consideration.

Edit: Did you edit your post or did I somehow manage to ignore the entire second paragraph of your post? Sorry about that.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Of course, the more I think about it, the more silly my idea seems. After all, what happens when a skinny guy copies a fat guy's genes? Does he end up as a skinny version of the fat guy? There'd need to be something to take that into consideration.

Edit: Did you edit your post or did I somehow manage to ignore the entire second paragraph of your post? Sorry about that.

Oh, yeah, I edited that, should have put an edit tag on it.

As for changing size when shapeshifting, what about when you change into someone of less mass? Where does the mass go? The only way I know of to "get rid" of mass is to convert it to energy. 1 gram of matter has the same amount of energy as a 22(ish) KT nuclear device. Could be a problem...though sending the mass to hyperspace or whatever, and bringing some from there to bulk up might work.

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As an aside, Star Trek transporters should be more scary than they are in the show. Convert a drop of water to energy, transmit it to another ship, but don't turn it back into matter, and you will destroy it. Likewise, replicating a drop of matter is just converting energy into it, take a lot of power.

 

[theSteamSupported]

How about creating an eyeball, and fine-tuning the iris pattern until the scanner gets a match?

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

we dealt with this issue a few times playing shadowrun. magic to charm/trick the person into opening it, hacking the system to get it open, a cybereye with the retinal scan duplicated, eye from someone who has clearance and last but the usual route.. "there is no problem that cannot be solved by ample application of high explosive"

as someone mentioned RED. the walls are usually less fortified than the door

Yay, fellow runner in here!

Or if you're into wetwork.. get the eyes. Wasn't there a retinaduplicator purchasable in the Bioware section?
Usually the appliance of a troll on a door works well too.

 

[Shinsei-J]

I'm a bit old fashion so I can do with a freshly decapitated head.
If that's not an option go through the roof or another wall.

 

[Thunderous Cacophony]

we dealt with this issue a few times playing shadowrun. magic to charm/trick the person into opening it, hacking the system to get it open, a cybereye with the retinal scan duplicated, eye from someone who has clearance and last but the usual route.. "there is no problem that cannot be solved by ample application of high explosive"

as someone mentioned RED. the walls are usually less fortified than the door

Yay, fellow runner in here!

Or if you're into wetwork.. get the eyes. Wasn't there a retinaduplicator purchasable in the Bioware section?
Usually the appliance of a troll on a door works well too.

In one of the books (I think it was Runner's Companion) someone has contact lenses that act as retinal duplicators. There might be wetware for it too.

OT: Find another, less guarded door. Or send robots/imps/whatever through the vents and open it from the other side or get what you want from within the room. You are expected to find a way through the defense, so the smartest option is to look for a way around (trolls fall in this category).

 

[Esotera]

I'd probably just ask whoever has access to it & look like I'm important or in a hurry. That's got to be the easiest method of gaining access, making someone think you genuinely should be in there but it won't accept your eyes because of chronic conjunctivitis...

 

[kailus13]

I'd probably just ask whoever has access to it & look like I'm important or in a hurry. That's got to be the easiest method of gaining access, making someone think you genuinely should be in there but it won't accept your eyes because of chronic conjunctivitis...

That could work, but casting an illusion to make one of your eyes a different colour and saying that the system doesn't recognise that would be a better lie. They might call you out if you say you have an eye injury.

Failing that, just go the Demoloition Man route. Eye on a stick, anyone?