Neosage's rant on WoW and life (don't pay any attention I just have to get this out of my system)

[Amarok]

I'll hold yer hand Mr. Pants, I'll hold yer hand...

 

[meece]

I tried wow.

Found it INSANELY dull.

First time with an MMORPG, did the quests, wondered around looking at stuff, reached lvl40 and then just got tired of killing ENDLESS mobs to lvl and didn't stick around to finish grinding the quests till the endgame. Maybe the endgame "improves" fine that's like saying....hell play through an FPS which'll take ~200hours and the final level is gonna be 5x the size of the others and be the best FPS level ever.

I'm not gonna play it to reach the end if the first bit isn't fun. *Maybe* WoW is fun once you get into it.... but I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time to find out.

 

[Amarok]

I tried wow.

Found it INSANELY dull.

First time with an MMORPG, did the quests, wondered around looking at stuff, reached lvl40 and then just got tired of killing ENDLESS mobs to lvl and didn't stick around to finish grinding the quests till the endgame. Maybe the endgame "improves" fine that's like saying....hell play through an FPS which'll take ~200hours and the final level is gonna be 5x the size of the others and be the best FPS level ever.

I'm not gonna play it to reach the end if the first bit isn't fun. *Maybe* WoW is fun once you get into it.... but I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time to find out.

Did ye make any attempt at communication with other players during that time? For me, WoW truly became good when I started playing regularly with some other people, I still play with 'em now two years later.
A lot of people don't seem to take advantage of the "mmo" aspect of the game.

 

[Siegreich]

I played wow on and off for three years, to be honest, I am amazed I lasted that long, I mean I raided, pvped, quested etc... and it was never really fun, I wasted an entire weekend farming AV for epics and it made me want to slit my wrists and listen to My Chemical Romance. Basically what I am saying here is don't play wow you'll regret it later on, I do... And so does my wallet

 

[meece]

• [1] Ragefire Chasm (RFC) HHorde Crest 8 (13-16)
  [2] Wailing Caverns (WC) 10 (17-20)
  [3] The Deadmines (VC) AAlliance Crest 10 (17-20)
  [4] Shadowfang Keep (SFK) 10 (18-21)
  [5] Blackfathom Deeps (BFD) 10 (22-24)
  [6] Stormwind Stockade (Stocks) AAlliance Crest15 (23-25)
  [7] Razorfen Kraul (RFK) 15 (24-27)
  [8] Gnomeregan (Gnomer) 15 (25-28)
  [9] The Scarlet Monastery:Graveyard (SM GY) 20 (30-32)
  [10] The Scarlet Monastery:Library (SM Lib) 20 (33-35)
  [11] Razorfen Downs (RFD) 25 (34-37)
  [12] The Scarlet Monastery:Armory (SM Arm) 20 (35-37)
  [13] The Scarlet Monastery:Cathedral (SM Cath) 20 (36-40)
  [14] Uldaman (Ulda) 30 (36-40)

That's all the instances you could have done during your levelling to 40.
Most of those places are simply awesome and you only need to find other 4 people to team up with you. In the middle of 11 millions well, that's no excuse.

Yea I wonder into a game and instantly KNOW every instance location off by heart. yea....sure...

NOT!

I did talk to people, hell even made a few friends, joined a guild and chatted to people. But the thing is talking to people isn't going to make a game more enjoyable for me if I don't find it fun. That's the long and short of it, isn't going to change it, maybe you think different but that's you.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

I played wow on and off for three years, to be honest, I am amazed I lasted that long, I mean I raided, pvped, quested etc... and it was never really fun, I wasted an entire weekend farming AV for epics and it made me want to slit my wrists and listen to My Chemical Romance. Basically what I am saying here is don't play wow you'll regret it later on, I do... And so does my wallet

Same I was a lock and I became my Guild whore because I was nice enough to run instances with people which then made me quit the game because I couldn't get shit accomplish even after I left the guild I would get message after message about run me through, "insert instance" I was more boring then my job at the time. I then picked up LOTRO and enjoyed that thoroughly mostly because running around drunk as a dwarf in a pub was quite hysterical not to mention the playerbase was more mature. Though I stopped that too because of the squeeze of money at the time.

 

[Bocaj2000]

I really enjoy the game. If you go into it with doubts/slight bias/closed mind/impatience/hate for RPGs it's going to be a drag, especially if your impatient. You develop over time in your character and knowledge of the game.

If I want to play a fast paced game, I'll play Fallout 3. If I want to develop something that I've been working on for a while, I'll play Warcraft. That's the appeal and why many love it so much. It's character development without borders of a direct storyline. The fact that your guy starts out shitty and gets to be Jesus later on is what makes it great. And separating this from other MMOs is its charm that others can't create. Realisticly, grinding doesn't appeal to anyone, but subtle character development appeals to many.

[My bias is that I'm a writer and I always connect with characters I create in games and make a back story for them. I also grew up with Warcraft 2 and played it often. I'm not a fanboy, as I think that Blizzard makes great games, nothing groundbreaking though.]

 

[Woe Is You]

Blackfathom Deeps and Razorfen Kraul/Deeps awesome?

What the hell?

Those are some of the most boring instances in the whole game. Only Sunken Temple and Molten Core manage to be even less interesting.

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

I understand where you're coming from, and I respect most of your opinion.

Except the part about the tauren. You don't talk bad about the moo-cows around me, clear? Ever. Even if I also hate the male model's protruding teeth.

Also, RP servers are a lot more fun in my opinion, but that's just my thought.

 

[Woe Is You]

Blackfathom Deeps and Razorfen Kraul/Deeps awesome?

What the hell?

Those are some of the most boring instances in the whole game. Only Sunken Temple and Molten Core manage to be even less interesting.

So you're telling me that Scarlet Cathedral, Uldaman and Gnomeragan are boring places?
Well shenanigans at you sir.

No, those are fine. Blackfathom Deeps and Razorfen Kraul/Downs (Wailing Caverns II and III respectively; like the first one wasn't boring enough) on the other hand are horrible.

Shadowfang Keep, Scarlet Monastery, Uldaman, Gnomeregan, The Deadmines...some of the most memorable instancing I've had. The ones I listed, before them...not so much. In fact, I'd rather do some grinding than go to Razorfen Downs ever again.

 

[Auron555]

Doing the end of RFD (the one with Ammenar the Coldbringer), where you fight all the way up the spiral, FINALLY getting to this huge lich... it was epic for me.

 

[Voltano]

Okay, so I'll be honest that I didn't play WoW far enough to actually try all the features (I think I only got a gnome mage to level 11 before quitting), like raids and instance dungeons or whatever, but I think this just leads to the "dangling the carrot" argument made countless times by non MMO fans. I had a friend tell me that the game only really gets good when a character hits level 20, and it was kind of a turn-off point for me when I heard that because

A) What about all the previous leveling? What was all that for? If the game only gets to be "fun" when some hours are put into it, then what the am I doing with all the previous stuff before the "good bits"? It's even more ironic considering that I only tried the trial part of the game and that has an experience cap of level 20. Again, it feels like that juicy piece of candy left on a windowsill to taunt a poor child who doesn't have the money to purchase something sweet for Christmas.

B) The game is a time-sink, and while this is a matter of opinion, I understand that this is a standard trick all RPGs--single player and MMO--all do. I don't have anything against them, quite the opposite really as I do love them a lot (their original roots are linked to roguelike games). Yet I always made the analogy that I could play a "time wasting" game for one time fee and have the same fun and experience compared to another "time wasting" game that charges you to play to use your time for the "fun parts".

I do agree that this is by no means a "bad" game, it's quite addicting and a very successful game, but still the thought of that nearly 200 dollar price tag per year is extremely expensive to me compared to a similar game I can pick up for just 20-30 bucks.

Actually, I might have experienced something like the raid/instance dungeon scenario like WoW in a free to play MMO. "Requiem: Bloodymare" had a instance dungeon for me around level 14 that I needed to team up with 3 other players to finish, and it was quite a unique experience compared to the grinding in normal MMORPGs. Though I'm not sure if this is the "epic awesomness" some people would describe from WoW. *shrugs*

 

[Souplex]

World of warcraft is simply modernized natural selection. People who are stupid enough to play start getting fatter and slower and becoming less productive. This makes them less attractive to the opposite sex unless they have some weird fetishes and therfore less likely to breed effectively removing them from the gene pool.

 

[Neosage]

This was all well and good until about level 20.

Yes I did do the deadmines, and yes it was kinda fun (in the sort of watch some level 70 guy do all the work kind of way) but most of the time my group was so retarded, well not retarded just we had no healer except me (great) and so when anyone got on low health I generally ran in not giving a damn about my life which funnily enough ended up in me dieing.

Edit: In fact I would say I enjoyed the majority of my time on WoW but my enjoyment was less than say; mass effect or oblivion. And seeing as the price is pretty much a complete rip-off, I feel that I don't really want to pay that much for a game that I don't enjoy as much as other games.

Edit 2: I also had a level 70 dwarf hunter on a private server (it's called wowscape) he was also fun, but I shall say it again, not as fun, as other games I have played.

Edit 3:

FYI, my raiding character was a Mage until late T5/early T6. I was always the top DPSer even with same skilled Warlock and Rogue players in my raiding group.

I shouldn't have to wait too enjoy a game should I?