My guess: alliteration. "Draconian DRM" just rolls off the tongue. Or in this case, keyboard.DustyDrB said:
Never buy a Ubisoft game for PC
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I don't know what the fuss is about. UPlay is basically just a launcher, we've had those for ages.
And at least with Ubisoft games I don't have to tell my Logitech gamepad to pretend to be a 360 controller. That alone makes Ubi's PC versions 10 times better than anyone else's.
And at least with Ubisoft games I don't have to tell my Logitech gamepad to pretend to be a 360 controller. That alone makes Ubi's PC versions 10 times better than anyone else's.
They limit your installs, or just don't let you play unless you're connected to the internet yes we know. I had to get Farcry 2 off another site because of my 5 installs I used 3 and it doesn't work anymore, and of course they'll renew them. 2 years later still waiting on that. Till then I've got this other version to go with my retail copy...that came with my video card.
When I was a little kid I used to think Ubisoft was the best company in the world, because they made Rayman 2 [http://www.rayman-fanpage.de/history/grafik_1999/rayman2_pc_box500_front_us.jpg], a game I played religiously all day long on my old Windows 98. Whatever happened to that sweet innocence I felt so long ago before I knew what "DRM" was or why it mattered? I miss the good ol' days.
Yeah ubisoft blows. My favorite pirating story was for the second assassins creed game(i believe?) where you were forced to be in constant contact with their servers. Take that pirates! How will you ever beat that! And then some coder just made his own dummy server that pretended to be Ubisoft. Huzzah: people who stole the game have constant access to it any time they want and anyone who paid for it can lose service and game progress for no fault of their own.
Then you clearly don't watch politics.DustyDrB said:
I just wish Ubisoft would learn that their games are pirated on PC mainly because of their shit DRM....
I mean, because the latest console I own is the N64, I don't have a choice if I want to enjoy the franchises of AC, SC... etc, etc... *sigh* Maybe one day.....
Still, with games that ARE made WELL for PC like Skyrim, I still have hope, maybe using that as an example will show people that not only can games be built for PC, but they can succeed to an insane level without using a launcher program...
Steam doesn't count, all PC gamers have that running permanently anyway....
I mean, because the latest console I own is the N64, I don't have a choice if I want to enjoy the franchises of AC, SC... etc, etc... *sigh* Maybe one day.....
Still, with games that ARE made WELL for PC like Skyrim, I still have hope, maybe using that as an example will show people that not only can games be built for PC, but they can succeed to an insane level without using a launcher program...
Steam doesn't count, all PC gamers have that running permanently anyway....
That was a BIG laugh! Thanks for thatKahunaburger said:
The top one is Ubisoft's business model in a nutshell.
They don't really get that the only people seriously inconvenienced by more draconian DRM are paying customers. No matter what your DRM does, pirates only have to download the crack once.
OT: This is exactly why EA/Ubisoft and any company that forces the same shit like they do down my throat will never ever have my money
Well done sir, well done.Kahunaburger said:
The top one is Ubisoft's business model in a nutshell.
They don't really get that the only people seriously inconvenienced by more draconian DRM are paying customers. No matter what your DRM does, pirates only have to download the crack once.
While I have never bought a Ubisoft game, I've heard enough to be convinced to stick to buying console titles. Which means I will never buy a Ubisoft game because I don't have a modern console...
Original post would have helped more if he had also mentioned the game in question.
I have bought Anno 2070 back in november, and have only once had trouble with not being able to connect. However I could still play it, and halfway through my session it logged me back in to uplay. Sure it's not the best service around, but as far as I can tell they are already on the retreat from what they were doing with Assassins creed, where you had to had a permanent connection, and as soon as your internet dropped you were f*****.
But I would like to go further in defending Ubisoft. They have actually learnt what internet DRM can be good for, because by being connected to Uplay you actually get bonus stuff that you can't get when you're offline, so you actually get something in return this time for getting the real thing instead of going ARRRRRRR and using a torrent (AKA piracy).
My previous game from ubi was From Dust, and that was horrible on multiple levels. The mentioned DRM was much more irritating (they did remove the most restrictive part in the first patch, just days after launch...), and it was just a mediocre game in general. But Ubi is learning, and going "omg I bought a game, had a bad experiance and you should all never buy from them again" is not enough information to make me stop buying.
I have bought Anno 2070 back in november, and have only once had trouble with not being able to connect. However I could still play it, and halfway through my session it logged me back in to uplay. Sure it's not the best service around, but as far as I can tell they are already on the retreat from what they were doing with Assassins creed, where you had to had a permanent connection, and as soon as your internet dropped you were f*****.
But I would like to go further in defending Ubisoft. They have actually learnt what internet DRM can be good for, because by being connected to Uplay you actually get bonus stuff that you can't get when you're offline, so you actually get something in return this time for getting the real thing instead of going ARRRRRRR and using a torrent (AKA piracy).
My previous game from ubi was From Dust, and that was horrible on multiple levels. The mentioned DRM was much more irritating (they did remove the most restrictive part in the first patch, just days after launch...), and it was just a mediocre game in general. But Ubi is learning, and going "omg I bought a game, had a bad experiance and you should all never buy from them again" is not enough information to make me stop buying.
Even if Ubisoft are "learning" (highly dubious), they still slander PC gamers and have shitty customer service. They make EA look good, that's how bad they are.Danoloto said:
I tasted it with From Dust, which I promptly demanded a refund promptly.
Then I got startled again when I bought Anno 2070 one day for the heck of it, only to find out it was made by Ubisoft and had uPlay. But then I found out I could still play that offline, so luckily all was well with Ubisoft.
But yeah, Ubisoft is going the way of EA and Activision in terms of customer harrassment. At least it already blew back in their face already. I hope it happens more often.
Then I got startled again when I bought Anno 2070 one day for the heck of it, only to find out it was made by Ubisoft and had uPlay. But then I found out I could still play that offline, so luckily all was well with Ubisoft.
But yeah, Ubisoft is going the way of EA and Activision in terms of customer harrassment. At least it already blew back in their face already. I hope it happens more often.
Well I just finished Driver San Francisco, and just like Yahtzee, it is going to be on my top 5 of the year.
The DRM are alright, I think? When I lost my internet connection, they just notified it, and.. nothing really happens other than disabled online multiplayer. I also have From Dust, but haven't got around with it due to the abundance of other games due to Steam Sales, but I reckon it should be the same?
The DRM are alright, I think? When I lost my internet connection, they just notified it, and.. nothing really happens other than disabled online multiplayer. I also have From Dust, but haven't got around with it due to the abundance of other games due to Steam Sales, but I reckon it should be the same?
I bought Heroes of Might and Magic VI. It doesn't only need uplay to play online, but to log into the account system in the game itself, which also is unstable at times. So, I have two services that both need to be functional for me to have my savegames up and running for the single player campaign. I have now asked for a refund, although I loved the game, I will rather not that they get the money for it.Danoloto said: