New Force Unleashed Trailer and now Gameplay vid

[Abedeus]

Still doesn't explain why Vader didn't bother trying to reflect the Emp's lightning fingers. Luke's saber was right there on the ground next to him.

Maybe he was too weak after the fight. Maybe Emperor's power shocked him too much. Maybe he didn't expect Emperor to actually strike to kill.

In that exact same storyline, 'awakened' Ichigo blocks a weapon that "contains the power of a million zanpakuto" (sp) with his own. And then uses his weapon to obliterate a scaffold that was built to withstand "the power of a million zanpakuto."

I stand by my comment.

Fine. Then again, the power of those "million zanpakuto" was never described... Million of normal zanpakuto, vice-captain, captain?

AH HAH! Yes, but the vast majority of the enemy ships were piloted by robots!

And the Jedi themselves showed zero qualms about hacking the living shit out of tons and tons and tons of Geonossians!

And at this point in the series, Anakin had already slaughtered men, women and children!

But... They did it in self-defense. Their infants attacked them in groups.

Okay, screw all the space rocks, why the hell didn't Vader just grab the Millenium Falcon itself?

I think that the Force doesn't have an unlimited speed or reach. If you use a Force Choke, the power will travel at a set speed - but if it's in the space itself, the speed doesn't change, reach is unlimited... but the speed is the same. If the ship was too fast, or too unpredictable to grab, it would be a waste of power.

Shouldn't the stronger Jedi be able to wrench his opponent's saber from his hand?

That's like saying "oh, a sharpshooter should be able to shoot someone's gun out of their hand without using a scope". Plausible, but very hard. Impossible during a combat.

If Yoda truly was the superior master of the Force like we have been led to believe, why did he whip out the wee bitty saber on Dooku?

Why not just fucking disarm him?

He was old. No matter how good someone is, age and time is an entity more powerful than Force itself.

Wouldn't that be a truer test of Force skill?

Wouldn't it be also a bit anti-climactic?

- SO IT HAS COME TO OUR FIGHT, OLD FOOL! ANYTHING TO SAY?!
- Talking you should stop, fighting too would be best to. *ZOOP lightsaber away*
- Oh come on.

 

[xvbones]

Maybe he didn't expect Emperor to actually strike to kill.

With all due respect, I don't believe this and neither do you.

This is Palpatine and that was Darth Vader.

If Vader didn't actually think the Emp would kill him like he meant nothing at all, Vader was not wearing his brains that day.

Fine. Then again, the power of those "million zanpakuto" was never described... Million of normal zanpakuto, vice-captain, captain?

I don't even think it matters.

That stands as Bleach's personal 'OVER 9000' moment, for me.

But... They did it in self-defense. Their infants attacked them in groups.

FUCKING SAND PEOPLE

I think that the Force doesn't have an unlimited speed or reach. If you use a Force Choke, the power will travel at a set speed - but if it's in the space itself, the speed doesn't change, reach is unlimited... but the speed is the same. If the ship was too fast, or too unpredictable to grab, it would be a waste of power.

In Empire, Vader force-chokes a number of failures who are not on the same ship as he is.

The ships these failures are on are always moving.

And in TFU, you can yank TIEs out of the air and throw them at each other, regardless of their velocity.

That's like saying "oh, a sharpshooter should be able to shoot someone's gun out of their hand without using a scope". Plausible, but very hard. Impossible during a combat.

Again, and with all respect, I don't buy it. In TFU, you can easily swap between lightsaber swings and hurling entire TIE fighters around like Superballs.

Also, as to the sharpshooter... he's shooting a bullet. The Force is described as 'a part of you'. They're completely different animals.

Speaking of bullets, Vader even pulls this exact trick on Han Solo, again in Empire. He blocks blaster bolts with his hand and then whips Han's blaster away from him.

....And Lucas has stated that the events of TFU are canon.

He was old. No matter how good someone is, age and time is an entity more powerful than Force itself.

Again, I just don't buy it. Yoda is described as the most powerful Jedi alive by every single person with anything to say about him.

And he was sprightly enough to do all those completely unnecessary jump-flip-spinnies off the wall, loop de loop, nothing but ninja.

Wouldn't it be also a bit anti-climactic?

- SO IT HAS COME TO OUR FIGHT, OLD FOOL! ANYTHING TO SAY?!
- Talking you should stop, fighting too would be best to. *ZOOP lightsaber away*
- Oh come on.

yeah, it would. Incredibly anticlimactic.

The problem is that Lucas stated that the events of TFU are canon. Which means that all this time, the Force has been far far stronger than we have ever been shown.

And every single one of those lightsaber fights took place only because the combatants were too polite to disarm their opponents.

Including Darth Maul, who had zero reason to be polite or behave with any honor.

 

[ShadowKatt]

In the first game you can use the Force to pull a fucking Star Destroyer out of orbit.

Which begs the question why the fuck is anyone using lightsabers ever for any reason at all if the force is this fucking strong.

Star Wars is dead to me.

I feel you on that one. I call it the Dragonball effect, but I think it may have started with Superman way back when. You take something that is super powered, but in order to keep him challenged you have to throw bigger and badder baddies at him. BUT, you can't kill him, or else it's all over, so he gets more powerful, which is why by the end of Dragonball GT, Gokus prostate has enough ki to wipe out two full galaxys and a couple small star clusters. Star Wars has been around for so long that we've reached the point that if they aren't catostrophicly strong, we fall back on the "If Darth Maul/General Greivous were so badass, why did they die like a little *****?" discussion again.

 

[xvbones]

In the first game you can use the Force to pull a fucking Star Destroyer out of orbit.

Which begs the question why the fuck is anyone using lightsabers ever for any reason at all if the force is this fucking strong.

Star Wars is dead to me.

I feel you on that one. I call it the Dragonball effect, but I think it may have started with Superman way back when. You take something that is super powered, but in order to keep him challenged you have to throw bigger and badder baddies at him. BUT, you can't kill him, or else it's all over, so he gets more powerful, which is why by the end of Dragonball GT, Gokus prostate has enough ki to wipe out two full galaxys and a couple small star clusters. Star Wars has been around for so long that we've reached the point that if they aren't catostrophicly strong, we fall back on the "If Darth Maul/General Greivous were so badass, why did they die like a little *****?" discussion again.

Darth Maul and General Grievous died like bitches because they were trapped in godawful movies that were terribly written.

Wanna see Grievous as a badass? Watch Genndy Tartarovsky's Clone Wars animated series.
It remains as the only evidence that General Coughbot ever had anything to him.

And Superman is actually, to a degree, the reverse of this trope. Supes is actually way less powerful than he was back in the Silver Age, where he could move entire planets around with a great big ol' shit-eating grin on his face.

In the past couple of decades, his power has been significantly scaled back.

 

[SamuelT]

I really do hope that a lightsaber does what a lightsaber's supposed to do. Cut through fucking things, instead of acting like a really blunt sword and only doing things after x amount of damage. Just thrown hundreds of soldiers at him, instead of twelve with 50 HP.

 

[Abedeus]

With all due respect, I don't believe this and neither do you.

This is Palpatine and that was Darth Vader.

If Vader didn't actually think the Emp would kill him like he meant nothing at all, Vader was not wearing his brains that day.

...SHUT UP! Some of us prefer delusion to denial.

[sub]sob sob[/sub]

In Empire, Vader force-chokes a number of failures who are not on the same ship as he is.

The ships these failures are on are always moving.

And in TFU, you can yank TIEs out of the air and throw them at each other, regardless of their velocity.

Right, right..

Well, maybe look at it like this - Vader's ship wasn't moving when he choked, perhaps. So he had to take into account only the other ship's speed. Also, it IS easier to choke people than grab vehicles. Heck, even in Force Unleashed or Jedi Academy, it's easier and faster to grab a person than anything else.

Again, and with all respect, I don't buy it. In TFU, you can easily swap between lightsaber swings and hurling entire TIE fighters around like Superballs.

Also, as to the sharpshooter... he's shooting a bullet. The Force is described as 'a part of you'. They're completely different animals.

Speaking of bullets, Vader even pulls this exact trick on Han Solo, again in Empire. He blocks blaster bolts with his hand and then whips Han's blaster away from him.

....And Lucas has stated that the events of TFU are canon.

Aaand with that last line, we all now have an explanation. Lucas went insane. I mean, before he created Clone Wars.

Again, I just don't buy it. Yoda is described as the most powerful Jedi alive by every single person with anything to say about him.

And he was sprightly enough to do all those completely unnecessary jump-flip-spinnies off the wall, loop de loop, nothing but ninja.

Yes, he WAS the most powerful Jedi.

I still think that Yoda wasn't as powerful as he was few hundred years before the movie series came along. More experienced, yes, but less powerful.

About those jumps and flips... heck if I know. Like you said, using Force Jump would be a lot easier. We could see people in Jedi Academy jumping... what, 300 or 400 meters away? And it only absorbed 50% of Force Points. So more powerful Jedi, even Luke or Katarn, would be able to jump almost a kilometer.

And every single one of those lightsaber fights took place only because the combatants were too polite to disarm their opponents.

Including Darth Maul, who had zero reason to be polite or behave with any honor.

Yeah, that might be the case. It's probably like the fight of Indiana Jones versus the Bedouin fighter.

Hell, when it comes to it, why didn't the Emperor use a lightsaber?! That would be cool, Emperor against both Luke and Anakin Skywalkers... But no, asshole just wanted to kill them both.

 

[SoxFan96]

Well, the energy of the lightsaber crystal is powerful enough to cut through 90% of matter in the Universe. Except for a handful of things (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber#Lightsaber_Resistant_Materials), LS can pierce anything. But it's just a rule of cool. I mean, if LS can block 90% of the matter, it should be able to reflect it too.

However, if you look at the link I gave, you'll see that there are things that reflect lightsabers or even turn off for a second or two.

Here's where the problem comes from for me - if a lightsaber needs a rare special crystal to. produce this power then why can laser shots be deflected? Surely they would need something of a similar power so as to be deflected and not just disintegrate. Meaning all those billions of standard firearms would need cystals similar to lightsabers

Please excuse me while I go all Star Wars fanboy on you now

A blaster (great name for a gun right)fires a beam of concentrated high energy particles. This is done by using the two main components of a blaster. The gas chamber and the power pack (the cartridge that must be replaced). The gas chamber is filled with an energy rich gas (eg: the gas from the planet Bespin featured in Empire Strikes Back) that when moves, when the trigger is pulled, from the gas chamber to the conversion enabler which uses energy from the power pack to exite the gas. The gas moves through an actuating module which makes it an actual beam and then it goes to a focusing device (sometimes a crytal) which turns the particle beam into a bolt of energy. The color of the bolt depends on the crytal (similer to a lightsaber's color depending on the crytal) and the type of gas.

The only difference is a lightsaber does not use gas it uses a plasma as its source.

 

[SHWiMM]

I am going to buy this game. Any game with a trailer that ridiculously sexy will soon be in my collection.

 

[GoldenRaz]

*clears throat*
FECKIN' DUAL-WIELDING!!! WOAAAA!!!
*clears throat*

This looks somewhat interesting...wonder if they'll try to keep this in canon or if they'll go along with something new?

 

[theironbat46]

I not impressed....
says the dick in the room,
Also "I think I'm a clone now.. There's always 2 of my just hanging around.." Looks cool.

 

[SovietSecrets]

As good as live action trailers might be, nothing was shown of the game so its still all a meh to me.

 

[TOGSolid]

The trailer was very well done and highly entertaining. However, I highly doubt they'll bother to fix all of the problems the first game had. Lucasarts hasn't made a good game in years.

 

[Goldhawk777]

Thought 1: So the main villain sends him off to execution while he leaves and doesn't bother to just kill the hero on the spot. Of course the hero escapes execution CLICHE! And who the hell gave him the light sabers needs to get fired!

The force gave them to him.

The force can make matter pop up? Or did he pull 2 light sabers towards him? Who the hell put light sabers in the room we execute Jedi with storm troopers?! Seriously who's idea was that? Was it you Gary, Colin and Derek Stormtrooper?

1.Okay, Due to Vader being in his personal ship, spare lightsabers were put in every room since Vader has a tendency to lose his lightsaber. The unnamed apprentice simply used two of the spares in that room.

2. Vader chained him down so he surmised that the stormtroopers could take care of him/ Vader enjoys manipulation and set him free so that he could destroy all of the other force clones and then face him. Finally, a challenge, since most of the time, he's going around killing off defenseless ship captains.

3. The spider droids, were of course, experimental, and were put into production after the Sepertists gave up. Perhaps in the campaign, you will destroy the factory and the creator of those, thus, cannot be used.

 

[PatrickXD]

This guy has proven to be capable of tearing down a fucking STARSHIP from HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY with his FUCKING MIND. Bah, he's useless. Let's just kill him.

 

[UMNiK]

Another devilish plan of Vader's, no doubt... And yea, it is fer PC. Heres hoping fer optimization and patches that require less than 18 Gb of disk space to actually install.

 

[SoxFan96]

I forgot it in my other post. This has gotten me pumped and hopefully they will improve on the original, I was decently disappointed by it.

 

[Littlee300]

Thought 1: So the main villain sends him off to execution while he leaves and doesn't bother to just kill the hero on the spot. Of course the hero escapes execution CLICHE! And who the hell gave him the light sabers needs to get fired!

The force gave them to him.

The force can make matter pop up? Or did he pull 2 light sabers towards him? Who the hell put light sabers in the room we execute Jedi with storm troopers?! Seriously who's idea was that? Was it you Gary, Colin and Derek Stormtrooper?

1.Okay, Due to Vader being in his personal ship, spare lightsabers were put in every room since Vader has a tendency to lose his lightsaber. The unnamed apprentice simply used two of the spares in that room.

2. Vader chained him down so he surmised that the stormtroopers could take care of him/ Vader enjoys manipulation and set him free so that he could destroy all of the other force clones and then face him. Finally, a challenge, since most of the time, he's going around killing off defenseless ship captains.

3. The spider droids, were of course, experimental, and were put into production after the Sepertists gave up. Perhaps in the campaign, you will destroy the factory and the creator of those, thus, cannot be used.

Vader: So you killed like a billion storm troopers so far, here are some that are sure to kill you! Bye!
Later...
Vader: HOW THE HELL DID HE ESCAPE!

 

[ZeoAssassin]

i will say that looked pretty awesome. and i really liked the story from the first one..kinda tilting my head about having the apprentice still be alive but whatever. (Dark ending was BS btw)

i will voice my concern though....am i the only one that is thinking that LucusArts is just trying to make GOD OF WAR: STARWARS EDITION to ring out as many pennies as possible? don't get me wrong a still like forced unleashed, but that trailer felt REALLY reminiscent of GoW...