New Force Unleashed Trailer and now Gameplay vid

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Littlee300 said:
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Littlee300 said:
Thought 1: So the main villain sends him off to execution while he leaves and doesn't bother to just kill the hero on the spot. Of course the hero escapes execution CLICHE! And who the hell gave him the light sabers needs to get fired!
The force gave them to him.
The force can make matter pop up? Or did he pull 2 light sabers towards him? Who the hell put light sabers in the room we execute Jedi with storm troopers?! Seriously who's idea was that? Was it you Gary, Colin and Derek Stormtrooper?
1.Okay, Due to Vader being in his personal ship, spare lightsabers were put in every room since Vader has a tendency to lose his lightsaber. The unnamed apprentice simply used two of the spares in that room.

2. Vader chained him down so he surmised that the stormtroopers could take care of him/ Vader enjoys manipulation and set him free so that he could destroy all of the other force clones and then face him. Finally, a challenge, since most of the time, he's going around killing off defenseless ship captains.

3. The spider droids, were of course, experimental, and were put into production after the Sepertists gave up. Perhaps in the campaign, you will destroy the factory and the creator of those, thus, cannot be used.
Vader: So you killed like a billion storm troopers so far, here are some that are sure to kill you! Bye!
Later...
Vader: HOW THE HELL DID HE ESCAPE!
OMG did you forget the first one's storyline already?..
Vader sacrificed these billions to starkiller in the first one! Because they were necessary casualties (no necessary evil when it comes to Vader, oh no) for a much greater scheme. Worry not, it all goes according to Dark Lord's plan!
 

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Everyone seems to be forgetting that we never saw Starkiller die.

We saw an explosion at the centre of which were Starkiller AND THE EMPEROR. The Emperor (obviously) survived. Why couldn't Starkiller have done so? It doesn't show him dead, just the rebels mourning his loss. And the Emperor was more beat up at the end of that fight than Starkiller, so who's to say the blast actually killed anyone? (except maybe a few nearby extras)

Starkiller survives, injured, obviously, and is promptly captured by Vader, and used to create clones of himself. Injuries include a knock to the head which left him with minimal/no memory of events. Being called "my apprentice" again by Vader when he's supposedly meant to die causes some of his lost memories to return, and he goes nuts. This is, of course, part of Vader's plan, in some twisted manner which is only revealed a level and a half from the end of the game. Along with the reason for an army of Starkiller clones. Which are promptly wiped from the face of the galaxy, along with Starkiller himself, somewhere between here and the opening of "A New Hope"

That's my guess, anyway.

EDIT: Because I decided to try and experiment with spoiler tags....
 

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[youtube]0Xv8LwZBXHU[/youtube]

They do say he is dead... but I guess that is debatable.

The cannon creators at Lucus arts can be sneaky though, so I suppose we can take nothing on face value.
 

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They do say he is dead... but I guess that is debatable.

The cannon creators at Lucus arts can be sneaky though, so I suppose we can take nothing on face value.
The vid won't load for me (and trying to copy the link gave me a 404), but if it's the scene at the end of the game, it doesn't say he's dead, it only says that the rebels believe he's dead.
 

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Damnit, trailers - why do you have to take more and more money out of my pocket?

This looks far too awesome not to buy - the models are almost real, animation is top notch and dual.Fucking.Lightsabers.

'nuff said.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xv8LwZBXHU there is the working link, but it does have the emporer and Darth say he is dead.

Then again they should have cloning down pat by now so it seems more likly the first starkiller is the real deal.

So confusing, although I will say one thing, if a boss fight near the end of the game is Starkiller original versus all the other flavours that will be epic.
 

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Thought 3: He can crush a robot with is mind.. why didn't he do that to darth vader in the first place!
The only problem is that Darth Vader is much more powerful Force-wise than the Apprentice. Ever seen the scene from Episode Six, how Darth Vader is resisting the Emperor's Force Lightning? All Vader will have to do is do the same thing to the Apprentice, and the Apprentice will be the one crushed.
 

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This was kind of my problem with the first game. They made Jedi wayyyyyy too powerful. This started with Lucas'Prequels really, speeding up the saber fights so that they looked more impressive and I was okay with that. But even from episodes 1-3 you could see the saber fights getting pretty ridiculous, by the 3rd move you had Anakin and Obi-wan swinging their sabers so fast that the light was giving me epileptic seizures. And while in Episodes 1 and 2, you could sort of still see how maybe...kind of it was still a plausible method of battle, but by 3 you just had some bizarre maneuvers that really served no purpose other than to dazzle the audience.

Then came the force unleashed, where you could basically defeat the entire Empire single handedly, I don't know why he would have sacrificed himself for the rebellion. Why was sacrificing the most powerful superhuman fighter in the galaxy somehow preferable to letting a couple of old people and some women die. Think of the greater good, for the force's sake! He could bring down Star Destroyers with his MIND!?!! Think of all the lives that could have been saved if the Apprentice had just flung the Death Star into the sun. Think of the children of those poor fighter pilots, who were needlessly made orphans because some nameless ex-Sith decided to be noble!

I don't really even care that ruins the Star Wars mythos or canon, let's face it, it wasn't exactly deep to begin with. If it makes for a better game or story, go for it. What I do care about is that when the character is that bloody powerful, nothing is a threat anymore, there's no feeling of danger for the character. And sometimes for game that's fine, I liked Dynasty Warriors, a game where you could single handedly defeat an entire army. But for games like this where they advance the story through cutscnes all the time, when it comes down to building tension they have to resort to some cheap ploy to actually create a sense of danger for the protagonist. If I remember right when you're betrayed by Vader in the first game he basically just flings you into a wall and your out cold. And then suddenly it's an entirely different character.

I just cut my way through thousands of Stormtroopers and several Jedi to get here, but as soon as Vader flicks his wrist...that's it? Game over? He's done? Seriously? I mean that's a ***** slap taken to the summit of Mount Olympus and ordained by Zeus himself. But you know what? Okay, fine, I can deal with that.

But then at the end of the game at the climax, suddenly Vader's lost this power? The ending boss fight is just an anti-climax compared to the rest of the game. Vader just another ordinary bad guy by that point. Sure, slamming him into a wall and then killing him would be a horrible way to end the game...but that also means it was a horrible way to advance the story as well.

Now finally, we have a new (prerendered cinematic) of the same guy, doing the same things, only to twice the amount of people and crushing massive droids with a single stern look. I was actually kind of hopeful at the beginning, thinking maybe they were gonna go for a sneakier (and thus more subtle) version of the combat. I personally think it would be awesome to be able to zap the lights and then cut down stormtroopers one by one. Sneaking through ventilation ducts or hanging from cat walks before leaping down on a passing patrol. An assassins creed sort of stealth/combat setup would be good, I mean Enzio might do best when undetected but he could still kick ass in frontal assaults. If you can do that for the aristocratic snot-nosed brat of a Banker in the 17th century, than you can bloody well do it to a Jedi.

Then my hopes were dashed as the apprentice crushed a droid and then sent out a shockwave that killed probably close to a hundred fathers, sons, brothers and distant cousins who sought to serve their country (empire, whatever) in an instant. Though they undoubtedly deserved their fate for being stupid enough to CLOSE in around the apprentice when their armed with rifles designed for ranged combat (they don't even have bayonets for christsakes!), the rifles are already so tiny they probably have an effective melee range of 5 feet at best and they're CLOSING on the guy with two whirling blades of hot steamy blue fire?

Anyway, I guess the point of this overlong rant was really just to say these words to the developers:

Show some bloody restraint! We don't need to see the main character wipe out an entire army to feel he's badass.
 

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Nice

They should show more parts of the story in the trailer, and not just fill it with showing us just how awesome Jedis(space wizards) are.
 

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Oh, and did anyone else think that the flamethrower droid looked a bit like Dog from Half-Life 2?
Yeah, it did a bit. Also look, at 2:40, the empire has a scarab tank! Where do lucasarts keep getting these orgional ideas?

OT: I liked the first one, but he's back? Was there a really a need for a sequel? Besides $$$$
Why else would they make a sequel?

Though the cinematic was very impressive, I want to see some gameplay before making any conclusions. I loved the first one though, so heres hoping!
 

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I don't care if it is just a money making sequel!
Running around with duel lightsabers, force powers and better CG is worth my money!
 

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Read an article about this in Game Informer. Starkiller may or may not be a clone of the original. But who gives a shit? DUEL WIELDING LIGHTSABERS!!
 

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Read the latest IGN article.

Latest gameplay footage includes dismemberment.

I may have to look forward to this.

I still occasionally pick up Force Unleashed when I'm in the mood to feel overly powerful but have spent a lot of time playing Prototype.
 

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http://au.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/55059/star-wars-the-force-unleashed-2/videos/e310_forceunleashed2_gmp_061110.html

GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE,

I'm also uploading this to the first post.
 

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He is a clone, actually. Why would Star Wars Wiki [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars%3A_The_Force_Unleashed_II#Story] (also) [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen_Marek#Cloned] lie to me?.. He is more powerful and presumably more obedient version of Galan. Unfortunately, Galan's memories of Darth's betryal soon surface, and so he is on the killing spree. Clones seen at the end of the video are unstable ones, with our double-wielding pally showing the most amount of reason.
 

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UMNiK said:
He is a clone, actually. Why would Star Wars Wiki [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars%3A_The_Force_Unleashed_II#Story] (also) [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen_Marek#Cloned] lie to me?.. He is more powerful and presumably more obedient version of Galan. Unfortunately, Galan's memories of Darth's betryal soon surface, and so he is on the killing spree. Clones seen at the end of the video are unstable ones, with our double-wielding pally showing the most amount of reason.
Okay fair point, I guess it doesn't matter if he is cloned, but it does threaten my near final battle vision.