New IGN Contest: No Girls Allowed

mshcherbatskaya

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Radelaide said:
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chronobreak said:
This is good, except everyones gonna start screaming "BAWW Equal Rights!"

Just to clear that up, it's their contest, and they have no obligation to make it multi-gender. I'm sure after all the complaints, they'll cave and give the women some contest of their own. The prize sucks anyways though, it should be something manly, like a week splitting wood or working in a chewing tobacco factory.
Of course they are. I can imagine a whole bunch of feminist groups getting rather vexed about this then being asked what they hope to achieve by the noise they're making, they shrug and say something about "girls being just as good as boys." Honestly, I'm all for equal rights, but I have a feeling this competition would appeal more to a male demographic to a female one.
Are these the same feminist groups that keep going on about how anything that men like is childish and infantile? They probably won't care...
Yeah, but since it's excluding the wimmins, they're all like "OMG YOU FILTHY MEN!! WHY WOULD YOU EXCLUDE WOMEN!?!?!?!"

I dunno, sometimes I'm ashamed to be a wimmins :(
What "feminists" are these? I'm a feminist, what some categorize as a radical feminist, and I haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
 

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Malygris said:
District 9 [http://www.ign.com], but there's a catch: Only boys can play.
They just changed the rules--they now allow men and women between 18 and 24. Or rather, they have a male drawing and a female drawing for people 18-24. [http://microsites.ign.com/d9/rules.html]

Behold, the power of Bad Press and Internet Backlash.
 

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That's my face right now. This doesn't make a lick of sense, and feels more like a joke, if anything. I'm sure I speak for all the girl nerds of the nation when I say, "WTF?"
 

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Charli said:
Guh? Well screw you the hell too IGN.

o_O

Not that I'd enter this or be able to go. It's still a bit of a slap in the face. What is this the boys clubhouse rules of yesteryear? Lol. I never stoop this low with language much IGN but ...gay...Really really gay.

gof22 said:
While it is IGN's contest and it is their rules I wish they would provide a reason for the no girls allowed policy on the contest.
Apparently we've got cooties and girly pink things. They like to pull our hair alot.
You know, I felt the same way when they wouldn't let me work out in Curves. What does gender have to do with wanting to join a relatively decent aerobics class?

As for the contest, I couldn't care less. I'd rather have a dream date with Fabio.
 

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mshcherbatskaya said:
Radelaide said:
Chipperz said:
Radelaide said:
chronobreak said:
This is good, except everyones gonna start screaming "BAWW Equal Rights!"

Just to clear that up, it's their contest, and they have no obligation to make it multi-gender. I'm sure after all the complaints, they'll cave and give the women some contest of their own. The prize sucks anyways though, it should be something manly, like a week splitting wood or working in a chewing tobacco factory.
Of course they are. I can imagine a whole bunch of feminist groups getting rather vexed about this then being asked what they hope to achieve by the noise they're making, they shrug and say something about "girls being just as good as boys." Honestly, I'm all for equal rights, but I have a feeling this competition would appeal more to a male demographic to a female one.
Are these the same feminist groups that keep going on about how anything that men like is childish and infantile? They probably won't care...
Yeah, but since it's excluding the wimmins, they're all like "OMG YOU FILTHY MEN!! WHY WOULD YOU EXCLUDE WOMEN!?!?!?!"

I dunno, sometimes I'm ashamed to be a wimmins :(
What "feminists" are these? I'm a feminist, what some categorize as a radical feminist, and I haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
The extremist ones who make such a big deal out of situations like this.
 

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Radelaide said:
mshcherbatskaya said:
Radelaide said:
Chipperz said:
Radelaide said:
chronobreak said:
This is good, except everyones gonna start screaming "BAWW Equal Rights!"

Just to clear that up, it's their contest, and they have no obligation to make it multi-gender. I'm sure after all the complaints, they'll cave and give the women some contest of their own. The prize sucks anyways though, it should be something manly, like a week splitting wood or working in a chewing tobacco factory.
Of course they are. I can imagine a whole bunch of feminist groups getting rather vexed about this then being asked what they hope to achieve by the noise they're making, they shrug and say something about "girls being just as good as boys." Honestly, I'm all for equal rights, but I have a feeling this competition would appeal more to a male demographic to a female one.
Are these the same feminist groups that keep going on about how anything that men like is childish and infantile? They probably won't care...
Yeah, but since it's excluding the wimmins, they're all like "OMG YOU FILTHY MEN!! WHY WOULD YOU EXCLUDE WOMEN!?!?!?!"

I dunno, sometimes I'm ashamed to be a wimmins :(
What "feminists" are these? I'm a feminist, what some categorize as a radical feminist, and I haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
The extremist ones who make such a big deal out of situations like this.
Note the "radical" in my self-description. I am one of the extremists. Keep in mind that, just because someone uses feminist terminology to rant or complain doesn't mean they are a feminist. In fact, if you ask a woman who is ranting about "equality" if she considers herself a feminist, she will probably say no. Seriously. The exception to this, in my experience, is in college, where you have young women who are frustrated both by the sexism around them but by their lack of tools to address it. But college politicals of any stripe, liberals, conservatives, objectivists, feminists, masculinists, vegans, libertarians, tend to make big deals out of just about any kind of situation.

The other exception would be the women you see on the news ranting. But really, think about that for a minute. If you are a reporter looking for dramatic news footage, are you going to point your camera at the ten women who are calmly explaining why they think a situation is biased, or the one wingnut yelling and waving a sign off to the side?

Oddly enough, my initial reaction was not one of outrage, but bafflement. It seemed, just from a PR standpoint, idiotic beyond words. Then, according to the response from IGN, we find out that it was the movie studio who put on the restriction because they wanted to create a buzz amongst a specific demographic. Again with Teh Dumb. I don't see the business savvy of hard-limiting who you market to. Sure, you can aim your promotions at a certain demographic, promotions so targeted they might as well have sniper scopes on them - Axe commercials anyone? - without overtly excluding the other people who might get interested in what you have to offer. I thought about this and the furor it is causing in certain circles, and I see only one logical possibility and that is viral marketing, using a wave of protest to surf their product (in this case, a movie) into the limelight. In short, there's only one way this makes any sense to me - it's a troll. A corporate troll, and like any troll, it's to stir up a fuss and gain attention for itself.

I'm inclined to treat Tristar's marketing the way I would any other troll - report and move on.

EDIT: I just saw the post about the contest change. Interesting.
 

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I would just like to put forth that, in a world so geared towards ferrying women to untold heights, while simultaneously hurting men in status, ability, and image, it's good to see someone standing up for young, English speaking males.

'Cuz you know you can do whatever the fuck you want to us, since we've never 'dealt with injustice'.

EDIT

Just in case, I'll put some examples.

[ol]
[li]Many scholarships are offered exclusively to women, expressly to increase the number of women in a given field, and thereby decrease the number of men.[/li]
[li]A program can be found for almost every task to help women. If there is a similar one for men, it is always available to both genders.[/li]
[li]Any organization or company can exclusively hire women, and will at least be accepted, possibly be celebrated. However every company is examined to determine if it has a high enough concentration of women to meet hiring standards.[/li]
[li]There are several times more rooms available for women in need than men.[/li]
[/ol]
 
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mshcherbatskaya said:
P.P.S. Someone loaned me American Gods and I must say, I'm enjoying it so far. So there you go. If I can learn to enjoy Gaiman, maybe there is hope for you.
A rant of this length needs a proper reply which I'll get to later. Unfortunately I have to deal with the great unwashed first.

Oh, and on the sexism thing. June 21st is Father's day. Are we seriously suggesting that this and Mothering Sunday are replaced by Parenting Day? There's certain things, like Cheeze said (Ok, now I am feeling weird) that require a gender divide purely due to their nature.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
mshcherbatskaya said:
P.P.S. Someone loaned me American Gods and I must say, I'm enjoying it so far. So there you go. If I can learn to enjoy Gaiman, maybe there is hope for you.
A rant of this length needs a proper reply which I'll get to later. Unfortunately I have to deal with the great unwashed first.

Oh, and on the sexism thing. June 21st is Father's day. Are we seriously suggesting that this and Mothering Sunday are replaced by Parenting Day? There's certain things, like Cheeze said (Ok, now I am feeling weird) that require a gender divide purely due to their nature.
What are you talking about? Who brought up anything about "Parenting Day?" Of all the things that utterly fail to interest me as popular sources of outrage, that one seems not only odd, but colossally off-topic for this thread. I would be happy to read your rant by the way, I just don't have the time to follow this particular rabbit hole all the down to the bottom, much less dig a new one about a pair of holidays that are little more than a marketing ploy to begin with. I'd just as soon do away with the pair of them, and all the other Hallmark Holidays that litter the calendar.

I will,of course, read your rant, but will probably not be able to respond. First of all, I intended it as a humorous challenge, not trench warfare which I suspect this will become if we go another round of to-and-fro, and second, I simply don't have the time. I know better to play the Get The Last Word game with you.
 

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Do they think only boys like this stuff? For every girl you know who like video games/comics, there is probably about twenty more girls who like video games/comics.
 

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So... I can see how girls would be a little disappointed but it's not something to freak out over. It's like women rights activists saying that girls should be allowed in the Boy Scouts!
 

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So the winner gets to attend a terms-protected sausage fest? Yay.
Surprised Jackson is going along with this little blunder.
 

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SEXISM, FUCK YEAH! COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAY YEAH.

SEXISM, FUCK YEAH!

Uhm... Did I say that out loud?

I mean, sexism is bad, girls are just as good as males. He-he-he

*runs and hides*
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Therumancer said:
It would be more of an issue if say for example the contest was "No Fat Chicks" and required that female contestants send pictures.
They've had plenty of those - never heard of "Miss Video Game," eh?

If the prize is appealing to members of both genders, both genders should be able to enter. Period. What I'm also confused by is the "who are at least between 18-24 years of age..." bit. So...does that mean if you're 25, you're out? Or that you simply have to be a legal adult?
Wow IGN's really picky about contestants, I guess they might just be trying to hone in on the center demographic, it all seems strange.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ok, I'm torn at least two ways on this.

On one hand, having a "Male Only" contest is fair but why advertise it as such?
On the second hand, why the hell is it "Male only"?
On the third hand, have you read those restrictions? Basically IGN owns your entire trip and can sue you if you don't do what they want you to do for them and then sign away all your rights.
On the fourth hand, "The 50 States or Washington"?

Seriously, I suspect a viral marketing plan here, this is just too stupid for words.

If I was a real cynic, I'd say that the target group wouldn't be savvy enough to work out how much they are getting owned by IGN, and it's actually a plus point towards girls that they'd figure out the legal shafting they'd be getting from those rules.
This confuses me further, IGN seems to have serious control issues and I would really like to hear their logic behind these restrictions. Though chicks-only competitions happen all the times so I don't really see this a big deal.