New pose for Tracer #ButtGate

[Eacaraxe_v1legacy]

You're right, a development studio would have to be anal retentive about aesthetic and visual polish to try to undertake something like that. I agree that Blizzard is not the kind of studio to try that.

I must have missed that part where Blizzard has an infinite number of labor-hours and an infinite budget, to work on a game that's currently at its lowest in terms of subscription count and revenue generation since the first expansion released almost a decade ago.

 

[Wrex Brogan]

...That this is still being referred to as 'Buttgate' is the most disappointing thing in my life right now. Just... c'mon.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those old? I think that is an old Paldain tier set and that is definitely TBC/Wraith-era hat. Blizzard said when they did the updated models in WoD that not everything from the past may work perfectly anymore.

...that's a Mage tier set! God! *angry muttering noises*

And no, it's not just a case of the older gear models clashing with the newer ones. Most of the MoP/WoD helmets and shoulders clip with Tauren (especially cloth/leather), Priest/Warlock armour sets clip horribly with most of the Night Elven hairstyles, Night Elf/Blood Elf ears still clip through most armours (which makes it weird when some of the newest helmets don't do it at this point - it's really inconsistent now) and the less said about the clipping problems with Goblins the better. Then there's all the scenery glitches, boss glitches, animation glitches...

Blizzard are very good at making highly detailed models, and lots of them in fairly rapid succession. Polishing everything up? Maybe 2 years into the expansion, but definitely not something they'd be pulling off in a Beta/Early release.

 

[Something Amyss]

Tracer's pose looks kind of dumb and difficult to maintain.

It's a game with superpowers. I'm not sure we have to worry about her stamina.

 

[kris40k]

It's a game with superpowers. I'm not sure we have to worry about her stamina.

Yeah, but won't someone think of the cosplayers!?!?

Someone's going to get injured

 

[Something Amyss]

Yeah, but won't someone think of the cosplayers!?!?

Someone's going to get injured

Then we must ban this for safety purposes!

#banthebutt

 

[kris40k]

Then we must ban this for safety purposes!

#banthebutt

Oh...oh god, what have we done...

The ride never ends!!!

 

[Something Amyss]

Oh...oh god, what have we done...

The ride never ends!!!

Could be worse. I could have come up with #buttbusters or #butthurt

 

[johnnyboy2537]

Bravo Blizzard. Class A trolling. Those annoying puritans deserve it anyway.

Those "annoying puritans" seem rather happy with the way things have turned out. So in a way they do deserve it.

Everyone I've seen so far who made a big deal of this seems to be grudgingly accepting it, although the reaction could be different from others. Others are still pissed off that she's wearing skin tight clothes. These people are the Christian Fundamenalists of the left and are never satisfied so the only thing to do is argue against their bad ideas and laugh at them.

Yeah, none of which seem to be around here, who only ever said that Blizzard had the right to take out the pose if they wanted to. And they did. So yeah.

And the argument was around her pose, not her outfit, so I don't know why you bring that up.

Then people on here aren't the problem. I'm talking about a lot of the people I've seen complaining about it on Twitter, Social Justice forums, and places like Polygon.

 

[Ryotknife]

Honestly this thread makes me feel like I've been living in some parallel dimension.

Blizzard is picky about aesthetic and visual polish?
I'll just be sitting over here with my derphound worgen and trolls that didn't blink for years, trying to figure out which hairstyles will clip into me the least. Hey at least female tauren's tails no longer clip through the back of their knees.

Seriously, I feel like a lot of people have a very different experience with Blizz than I do.

Hey I had to deal with the feral range bug ("you are out of range""you must be behind your target") which as far as i know they still havent fixed (and its been what? 8 years now?) and deal with the fact that tauren models were so big that you can hit them through walls which makes pillar humping a bit difficult. Yes, i pillar humped as a resto druid in BC arena for one season to get the best feral pve gear (which was pvp gear) and yes, i felt dirty the whole time (although 1+ hour arena matches definitely takes the shine off playing that spec). Playing resto in arena is the first time in a video game i literally started to lose the will to live, especially against druid/hunter comps. Randomly falling through the earth because of fear in AB was also fun.

EDIT: on topic, im actually kinda impressed with how Blizzard handled this. They utilized a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer (i still would have preferred with both poses were left in with a message saying more poses for other characters were on the way). Historically, this sort of thing never ended well. Blizzard has broken dozens of specs in WoW over the decades due to complaints and left them broken for years. I guess I was wrong to assume how Blizz handles Overwatch would be the same as how they handle WoW.

 

[Dragonbums]

Completely and totally unrelated, what doyou think sounds best?

- #McCreeButtgate
- #Justice4McCreeButt
- #CowboyButtsMatter
- #YesAllButts
- #NotAllPoses

Reduce, reuse, recycle; I reccomend we revive #IstandwithButts

This is relateable because everyone needs butts to stand. So everyone should stand for butts

 

[Drops a Sweet Katana]

Funnily enough, that is pretty close to the pose I imagined would be good replacement. Much better in my opinion.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

This gate thing needs to die in a fire, in the middle of a hurricane, during a planetary bombardment. Or maybe someone can just push it off a cliff or something. It really needs to go away.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

This gate thing needs to die in a fire, in the middle of a hurricane, during a planetary bombardment. Or maybe someone can just push it off a cliff or something. It really needs to go away.

 

[Supernova1138]

This gate thing needs to die in a fire, in the middle of a hurricane, during a planetary bombardment. Or maybe someone can just push it off a cliff or something. It really needs to go away.

Very well, henceforth every internet controversy will have the 'ghazi' suffix applied to it instead. The 'gate' suffix will be retired for the next few decades, only to return if there isn't a sufficiently big scandal during that time that can be turned into a new scandal related suffix. Or maybe we can go retro and do what everyone did before Watergate and call everything an 'affair' or a 'crisis'.

 

[Fox12]

Oh my God Blizzard, just make up your mind already : P

I like the new pose, it's more playful.

 

[wulf3n]

Hell, the post didn't even mention the butt.

The first post no, but later clarifications on page 3 [http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743015583?page=3] by Fipps:

I think my argument is that a butt shot for tracer doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and undermines a lot of the great work the team is doing across the board.

 

[IceForce]

Looks like my SJW brethren are going to have to try harder to take away everyone's video games butts.

 

[Barbas]

Keep your posts on-topic, please.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well, it still looks fucking dumb compared to the one on the left. But I guess dumb is fitting for such a character.

Well, a pinup from WW2 pose seems to fit her wartime memes.

I don't know, part of the problem is I have trouble caring in the first place. This whole "controversy" was mostly just funny, and as someone who wasn't going to play the game anyway I didn't really care if they had her trotting around a stripper pole.

 

[DoPo]

Well, it still looks fucking dumb compared to the one on the left. But I guess dumb is fitting for such a character.

Well, a pinup from WW2 pose seems to fit her wartime memes.

I don't know, part of the problem is I have trouble caring in the first place. This whole "controversy" was mostly just funny, and as someone who wasn't going to play the game anyway I didn't really care if they had her trotting around a stripper pole.

WAS there ever a real controversy? Did Blizzard ever say that they were changing this because of a single forum post? I think it's more likely that this is just what it looks like when the GG-SJW's are offended.

Some guy made a forum post [http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743015583#1] in which he said that the pose didn't fit Tracer's character. A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE got their panties in a twist over it and started slagging him off for DARING to suggest it. 11 pages later a Blizzard employee commented [http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743015583?page=11#210] that the pose would be removed, which lead to A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE taking issue with that, as well. Blizzard had to clarify that they were sort of looking to replace the pose anyway. Which lead to A. WHOLE. LOT. MORE. people throwing a hissy fit over Blizzard's actions.

Yes, there is somebody who is offended. I have no idea if it's es-jay-dubyas because I don't know what that is. I've mentioned before - it seems it's just a shorthand for "the people I don't side with", so without knowing who you don't side with, I've no clue if you're correct or not. GG is even worse. I tried getting my head around it and...then just dropped it. Nobody seems to be clear on what/who GG and anti-GG are. It seems that even diffrent people on "the same team" have different ideas what their team and the other team are about. I've just stopped bothering. So, take that as you will.