You do realize how high and might you sound when you say that don't you?RJ Dalton said:
You don't need an English degree to realize Bruckheimer is not Shakespeare. All you need is half of a brain and to have read even a stanza of Shakespeare's.
New Prince of Persia Movie is "Kind of" Like Shakespeare
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You don't need an English degree to realize Bruckheimer is not Shakespeare. All you need is half of a brain and to have read even a stanza of Shakespeare's.
If by kind of like Shakespeare he means, pretty much over hyped crap then yes I agree with him.
As for breaking the bad videogame movie cycle, I doubt it will.
As for breaking the bad videogame movie cycle, I doubt it will.
Yeah, a lot of movies are kind of like Shakespeare - literally every "romantic" movie made in the last 3 or 4 decades is "kind of" like Romeo & Juliet - that doesn't mean it's going to be good.
*raises hand*ImprovizoR said:
Dostoevsky representin'.
I don't think a video game or video game movie with a comparable narrative (stylistically, not necessary quality, as quality is subjective anyways) wouldn't quite fit well. It'd be like wearing a tweed dinner jacket to a dinner party. Sure, it's a dinner jacket, but, seriously? Tweed.
I can't believe the new PoP game is getting no forum time, I wanna create a thread, but i don't have the writing umph to create a good one
The eternal dilemma. If I just make a statement without anything to back it up, anybody who happens to disagree with me gets on my case for daring to criticize whoever they happen to be liking at the time, but when I make a point of showing that I've got some kind of expertise in the matter that gives me room to talk, I'm suddenly criticized for being arrogant.BlindMessiah94 said:
Is there some kind of social standard that I'm failing to grasp here?
You could give examples of why instead of just saying "I have a degree".RJ Dalton said:
Explain and analyze Shakespeare's storytelling method, for example, compared to Bruckheimer's.
That way you don't have to worry about coming across as arrogant, but you are still giving reasons for your statement.
For example, once someone had a post on these forums about fixing some microphone issues. I could have said "I have a audio engineering degree, so do this and that", or, as I did, I can simply explain to him how to fix the problem with reasons and examples. In any essense I'm not really taken aback by your point because I agree with you, I just wanted to point it out
Agreed. Yes, they did amalgamate practically three games' worth of plot into one movie, but they managed to keep the Narm [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Narm] to a minimum and the movie ended up being very tense and genuinely scary at times.TheAmazingTGIF said:
As for the OT, I somehow doubt a videogame movie really has what it takes to be Shakespeare-level unless it's based on something like, say, Deus Ex or maybe even that upcoming Bioshock movie. This, hopefully, will be a decent action movie, and if not, it's not as if the status quo's changed for the worse.
Yeah, I figured. I suppose I didn't really have mentioned it. I really didn't want to go into a detailed analysis because that would have taken a lot more effort and I really didn't care to do so. Producer's just aren't worth it. In the grand scheme of things, a producer serves no part in the creative process. He's a bag of cash and a marketer. A good producer might have something good to add, but most of them are just leeches feeding on the work of others. All talk and no substance.BlindMessiah94 said:You could give examples of why instead of just saying "I have a degree".
Explain and analyze Shakespeare's storytelling method, for example, compared to Bruckheimer's.
That way you don't have to worry about coming across as arrogant, but you are still giving reasons for your statement.
For example, once someone had a post on these forums about fixing some microphone issues. I could have said "I have a audio engineering degree, so do this and that", or, as I did, I can simply explain to him how to fix the problem with reasons and examples. In any essense I'm not really taken aback by your point because I agree with you, I just wanted to point it out
Heh, fair enough. Like I said I agree with you. I'm a Shakespeare fanboy anyhowRJ Dalton said:Yeah, I figured. I suppose I didn't really have mentioned it. I really didn't want to go into a detailed analysis because that would have taken a lot more effort and I really didn't care to do so. Producer's just aren't worth it. In the grand scheme of things, a producer serves no part in the creative process. He's a bag of cash and a marketer. A good producer might have something good to add, but most of them are just leeches feeding on the work of others. All talk and no substance.BlindMessiah94 said:You could give examples of why instead of just saying "I have a degree".
Explain and analyze Shakespeare's storytelling method, for example, compared to Bruckheimer's.
That way you don't have to worry about coming across as arrogant, but you are still giving reasons for your statement.
For example, once someone had a post on these forums about fixing some microphone issues. I could have said "I have a audio engineering degree, so do this and that", or, as I did, I can simply explain to him how to fix the problem with reasons and examples. In any essense I'm not really taken aback by your point because I agree with you, I just wanted to point it out
I'm hesitant to call myself a fanboy of anything, because then your preferences are based on who created it, rather than the quality of the product. Still, I do enjoy Shakespeare. My favorite would be Midsummer Night's Dream.BlindMessiah94 said:Heh, fair enough. Like I said I agree with you. I'm a Shakespeare fanboy anyhow
That's my favourite too. As fanboyish as I am I have never been able to like Hamlet. I found it to be entirely drole.RJ Dalton said:I'm hesitant to call myself a fanboy of anything, because then your preferences are based on who created it, rather than the quality of the product. Still, I do enjoy Shakespeare. My favorite would be Midsummer Night's Dream.BlindMessiah94 said:Heh, fair enough. Like I said I agree with you. I'm a Shakespeare fanboy anyhow
I think it depends on how it's performed. If done right, it could be interesting; it's an impressively psychological play and you'd have to get people who can get that across. I've never seen a troupe of actors that did though.BlindMessiah94 said:
Now, I've never been able to get through Julius Ceasar.
In fairness, most of the games that past video game movies have been based upon have had little to no real narrative or characterization of their own; they were chosen more on the basis of brand familiarity than adaptability.
(I mean, seriously. Mario Bros.? I like the guy as much as any gamer, but his is not exactly a story for the ages.)
Many of the games that have made it to the screen, when it all comes down to it, are just about winning. Defeat the bad guys, save the princess. Defeat the challengers, win the tournament. And while that makes for a great twitch game, it's shallow as all hell as far as storylines go.
PoP- at least the Sands trilogy- has a little more to it. It has something resembling a character arc, and some over-all themes about the cost of one's decisions and correcting mistakes.
Okay, yes, it's not Shakespeare, no matter what hyperbole those associated with the film might spout. But I do believe it could conceivably be an entertaining picture.