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Ph33nix said:
My biggest concern is will the 570 run bf3 on max?

edit: also I'm looking to run stuff at 1080p will that make a difference between the 6970 and 570?
I know that the demos for BF3 ran on a single GTX580 which can definatley run the game at full settings. The HD6970 beats the GTX570 at some aspects and vice versa. I don't really think it's worth an extra $50 as the only real improvement will be performance at higher resolutions due to more vRAM than the GTX570 (2GB over 1.28GB). I wager that you will be able to to run BF3 at max settings on 1600x1200 very smoothly so the 570 is definately worth sticking with.

Recommended GPU for BF3: HD6850 or GTX460
Recommended vRAM for BF3: 1GB
I'd say that the 570 is more than capable of doing that without going over $350.

EDIT: The GTX570 also takes a bit less power, for what it's worth.
 

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Ph33nix said:
My biggest concern is will the 570 run bf3 on max?

edit: also I'm looking to run stuff at 1080p will that make a difference between the 6970 and 570?
I know that the demos for BF3 ran on a single GTX580 which can definatley run the game at full settings. The HD6970 beats the GTX570 at some aspects and vice versa. I don't really think it's worth an extra $50 as the only real improvement will be performance at higher resolutions due to more vRAM than the GTX570 (2GB over 1.28GB). I wager that you will be able to to run BF3 at max settings on 1600x1200 very smoothly so the 570 is definately worth sticking with.

Recommended GPU for BF3: HD6850 or GTX460
Recommended vRAM for BF3: 1GB
I'd say that the 570 is more than capable of doing that without going over $350.

EDIT: The GTX570 also takes a bit less power, for what it's worth.
alright I'm only going to be running it at 1080p anyway so its not like its gonna need to get those huge resolutions.
also this machine is ready to assemble and install windows right away right?
 

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also this machine is ready to assemble and install windows right away right?
If you're talking about The Atlasbreaker [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.313059-New-Rig#12685326] build I suggested, I made sure that everything's compatible (I've been obsessing over this for almost a year), all you need to do is buy the components and put it together. My friend gave me a copy of Win7 64-bit. You'll need a 64-bit copy or only 3.6GB of RAM will be available.
 

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Unless you're going to be doing a lot of 3D Modeling, Picture/movie Rendering ETC then an i7 is not worth the extra coin. If you're primarily going to be gaming then the 2500k (or the 2500 if you don't plan on overclocking) is more than enough CPU horsepower that also frees up more cash to toss at your GPU.

First of all, however, you need to tell us whether this rig is a Gaming Rig or a Graphics design rig.

Something else you need to tell us is when you want to build this Rig, there are quite a few nifty developments on the Horizon you need to take into account.
its a gaming rig and what do you mean nifty developments?
AMD are soon to be releasing their Bulldozer range of CPU's which is slated to directly compete with Intel's second generation CPU's, The current hype being they're going to end up better than Sandy Bridge BUT we dont know just yet.

AMD are also supposed to be releasing their 7000 series of GPU's around the same time, so while -right now- the obvious choice for any gaming rig is a 500 series nVidia GPU...in 1-2 months time, that may change (or not be as clear cut).

on the Intel side, there are rumors of Intel bringing out another pre-extreme CPU - the 2700k. This would replace the 2600k as the most advanced second generation Intel CPU on the market and most likely bring prices down. And if that happens you may have ended up buying a 2600k for the same price you could have had a 2700k, or a 2500k for the same price as the 2600k.

Speaking of the Extreme series of Sandy bridge (Sandy Bridge E), in January Intel are releasing 3 new processors in their Extreme range. I forget the model numbers off the top of my head but they're worth a look as they're the true High end of the second generation (and the last CPU's Intel are going to release before they go to their next Process, Ivy Bridge, and their next socket change, the 2011 socket)


If you're buying this computer with hopes to have it this month...I would say that you should at least wait for bulldozer to make an appearance.

If you're buying this computer around Christmas time, Wait for Sandy Bridge E and -hopefully- the 2700k price drop. (This, btw, is what i'm doing)

If you're in no rush whatsoever? Save your money and wait for Ivy bridge and socket 2011 next March. Ivy is meant to be the next batch of truly Hardcore CPU's from Intel, akin to last years Gulftown 1366 socket CPU's.

But it really all depends on how long you want to wait, just bare in mind that the next big thing is -always- Just around the corner in computer Hardware.

Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155.

SB-E Is the "new" socket 1366. aka socket 2011

And what I've seen from leaked tests and such bulldozer will not outperform Intel 2600k (But since its leaked tests I am a bit skeptical to them)

And since the 7000 series will probably be released in November- December (Probably with a very few amounts of gpus rdy to be shipped)

And since Bulldozer have had its release date pushed back over and over again I really wouldnt trust it to come out within 1-2 months (but then again I could be wrong)
 

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Tubez said:
Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155 so that is wrong
I can confirm [http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155] that. Socket 2011 will be the 2nd gen's 1366 for sure, which are confimed to be models 3820, 3930K and 3960X.
 

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Tubez said:
Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155 so that is wrong
I can confirm [http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155] that. Socket 2011 will be the 2nd gen's 1366 for sure, which are confimed to be models 3820, 3930K and 3960X.
Dunno if you are agreeing with me or not :) but Sb-E is 3820, 3930k and 3960X.
 

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Tubez said:
MercurySteam said:
Tubez said:
Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155 so that is wrong
I can confirm [http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155] that. Socket 2011 will be the 2nd gen's 1366 for sure, which are confimed to be models 3820, 3930K and 3960X.
Dunno if you are agreeing with me or not :) but Sb-E is 3820, 3930k and 3960X.
Uh, yeah I am agreeing with you.
 

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MercurySteam said:
Tubez said:
MercurySteam said:
Tubez said:
Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155 so that is wrong
I can confirm [http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155] that. Socket 2011 will be the 2nd gen's 1366 for sure, which are confimed to be models 3820, 3930K and 3960X.
Dunno if you are agreeing with me or not :) but Sb-E is 3820, 3930k and 3960X.
Uh, yeah I am agreeing with you.

Oh lol. Well thank you then :) I worded that sentence a bit wrong so wasnt sure if u thought I was saying that ivy bridge & socket 1155 is wrong.
 

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Tubez said:
MercurySteam said:
Tubez said:
MercurySteam said:
Tubez said:
Ivy bridge will be using socket 1155 so that is wrong
I can confirm [http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21621-ivy-bridge-22nm-sticks-with-socket-1155] that. Socket 2011 will be the 2nd gen's 1366 for sure, which are confimed to be models 3820, 3930K and 3960X.
Dunno if you are agreeing with me or not :) but Sb-E is 3820, 3930k and 3960X.
Uh, yeah I am agreeing with you.

Oh lol. Well thank you then :) I worded that sentence a bit wrong so wasnt sure if u thought I was saying that ivy bridge & socket 1155 is wrong.
Don't worry, I've done plenty of research on Intel CPUs ever since I decided to base my next rig on Intel.