New Robotic Muscle Is 1,000x Normal Human Strength

Combustion Kevin

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now, now, guys, before you start throwing jeeps around, remember:
your may handle, but your spine may not.

I can't wait to see how it could be marketed, using this stuff in industrial machinery would be pretty obvious, but if you want to use them in body modifications you will need a set or kit to fully support your body using it.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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1966 - Star Trek shows us a future of instant communication. People think it'll never happen.
2013 - We've got fucking datapads and communicators...

Who the hell knows what sci-fi magic will become REAL FUCKING SCIENCE anymore... seriously. I think we're only limited by our imaginations and timeframes, but maybe some of the most impossible things will be proven otherwise... Makes me wonder what I'll live to see, and maybe how much longer I'll actually live.
 

Yopaz

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Baresark said:
Yopaz said:
J Tyran said:
Steven Bogos said:
how long will it be before I can go full Deus Ex-style cyborg?
Iirc Vanadium compounds become more and more toxic to humans the greater their degree of oxidisation so it might never end up in Human cybernetic muscle, although I am not sure if Vanadium Dioxide counts as one its various Oxidation states.

Any chemists around here that could clear that up?
If you're asking about the oxidation state of Vanadium in vanadium dioxide that's +4 which is the second highest oxidation state possible. I'm not sure about its toxicity since it's no one of those compounds I've had to deal with, but if I remember correctly it's fairly stable and not very reactive. Sorry I can't be of more use. Edit: After some searching I did find something about tetravalent vanadium being quite toxic, but I am not completely certain about the details. That said Vanadium V (+5) is part of the toxic molecule of toadstool.
I had the very same question myself. The article is not very specific. That is why in my first comment I was talking about Vanadium(IV) Oxide. That is the most common form of it and it's a metal that has the same crystaline structure as steel or a lot of other metals. And as you said, Vanadium(V) Oxide is known to be toxic, but I am not familiar with the toxicity levels of Vanadium(IV) Oxide. And wikipedia failed me on that one! What bastards!
Yeah, I went on the article myself and it didn't mention anything about the toxicity. The article about the element did say that all vanadium compounds should be considered toxic though and that vanadium(IV) is 5 times more toxic than vanadium(III), but no real mention of this particle compound. If only this had been about Chromium I could offer some knowledge, but vanadium isn't an element I am familiar with.
 

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Yopaz said:
Baresark said:
Yopaz said:
J Tyran said:
Steven Bogos said:
how long will it be before I can go full Deus Ex-style cyborg?
Iirc Vanadium compounds become more and more toxic to humans the greater their degree of oxidisation so it might never end up in Human cybernetic muscle, although I am not sure if Vanadium Dioxide counts as one its various Oxidation states.

Any chemists around here that could clear that up?
If you're asking about the oxidation state of Vanadium in vanadium dioxide that's +4 which is the second highest oxidation state possible. I'm not sure about its toxicity since it's no one of those compounds I've had to deal with, but if I remember correctly it's fairly stable and not very reactive. Sorry I can't be of more use. Edit: After some searching I did find something about tetravalent vanadium being quite toxic, but I am not completely certain about the details. That said Vanadium V (+5) is part of the toxic molecule of toadstool.
I had the very same question myself. The article is not very specific. That is why in my first comment I was talking about Vanadium(IV) Oxide. That is the most common form of it and it's a metal that has the same crystaline structure as steel or a lot of other metals. And as you said, Vanadium(V) Oxide is known to be toxic, but I am not familiar with the toxicity levels of Vanadium(IV) Oxide. And wikipedia failed me on that one! What bastards!
Yeah, I went on the article myself and it didn't mention anything about the toxicity. The article about the element did say that all vanadium compounds should be considered toxic though and that vanadium(IV) is 5 times more toxic than vanadium(III), but no real mention of this particle compound. If only this had been about Chromium I could offer some knowledge, but vanadium isn't an element I am familiar with.
Thats what threw me, there isn't any real information about Vanadium Dioxide around so its hard to find out much about it without some serious research. I guess it must be a relatively new or unique compound, I remember from chemistry about the toxicity of Vanadium increasing as it became more and more oxidised with the most oxidised compounds being considered as toxic as certain heavy metals (with similar effects too) but I guess it would take a chemist with a fair bit of experience with it to answer the question about this compound.
 

Strazdas

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Hearts, Muscles, i should start saving up for these, id love to make my body actually more useful than a lump of fat.


amaranth_dru said:
1966 - Star Trek shows us a future of instant communication. People think it'll never happen.
2013 - We've got fucking datapads and communicators...

Who the hell knows what sci-fi magic will become REAL FUCKING SCIENCE anymore... seriously. I think we're only limited by our imaginations and timeframes, but maybe some of the most impossible things will be proven otherwise... Makes me wonder what I'll live to see, and maybe how much longer I'll actually live.
precisely. I remmeber when back in 50s B movies you would see inventions like Flat Screen TVs and microwaves that heat food and everyone was laughing at "Those crazy stuff that will never happen" and here, now, everyone has one of those. Sci-Fi is different from regular fantasy in that it shows what may one day actually happen. That is, if the Sci-fi does not forget the SCI part of it.