New SimCity Will Require Always-On Internet - UPDATED
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It is a non subscription MMO. I know that isn't what a lot of people want from a Sim City game but that is what they are making. I'll admit the concept intrigues me, and it sounds like fun.
There are questions that arise though. How many cities can you have going at once? Will there be a penalty for abandoning cities? (I know that players can adopt abandoned cities which sounds pretty cool). How will cities communicate with each other? Most importantly how long will the servers run? This is the point that concerns me the most, it seems like the game will have a built in obsolescence that EA can activate as soon as they deem it time for a new SimCity.
There are questions that arise though. How many cities can you have going at once? Will there be a penalty for abandoning cities? (I know that players can adopt abandoned cities which sounds pretty cool). How will cities communicate with each other? Most importantly how long will the servers run? This is the point that concerns me the most, it seems like the game will have a built in obsolescence that EA can activate as soon as they deem it time for a new SimCity.
Well, it looks like I'm finally going to be breaking my long, long streak of buying new Sim City games the week they come out. I've stuck with the series since I first picked up Sim City 2000, way way back when...
Goodnight, sweet prince. You will be missed. Or maybe not; Sim City 4 is pretty good. I might pick it up again for a month or two win the new one comes out, just for the sake of it.
Goodnight, sweet prince. You will be missed. Or maybe not; Sim City 4 is pretty good. I might pick it up again for a month or two win the new one comes out, just for the sake of it.
Well, if they don't WANT my money, fine - other companies still do. A new sim city would have been nice, but that kind of DRM is an absolute no-go. Oh, its on origin as well ? Great - two reasons why I won't have to feel tempted.
This is me:
[http://www.speedtest.net]
My normal speed is only slightly better, today is specially slow. But still, I don't like that excuse of "People always use internet, I don't know why they complain". Well, this is why:
a) Some people have slow connection. Alright for browsing, terrible for gaming.
b) People don't have access to internet everywhere. Some people like to play games on the bus or maybe in a house in the forest. It doesn't matter, there are many places where internet is not an option.
c) It's not really a question of being able to do it, it's about being forced to do it. Most people don't like to be forced to do things, no matter how easy. This goes both for the always-on connection and the unnecessary interactivity with other players.
Origin is another issue. My first experience with the software was pretty bad. It's buggy, it lacks options that no downloading software released after 2000 should lack and its GUI is poorly designed. Maybe it works OK for some people, but definitely not the case for everyone. And that's leaving aside the way it scans your PC and consumes resources.
So well, if I want to play Sim City I'll stick to the old ones. I'm not touching this one ever.
My normal speed is only slightly better, today is specially slow. But still, I don't like that excuse of "People always use internet, I don't know why they complain". Well, this is why:
a) Some people have slow connection. Alright for browsing, terrible for gaming.
b) People don't have access to internet everywhere. Some people like to play games on the bus or maybe in a house in the forest. It doesn't matter, there are many places where internet is not an option.
c) It's not really a question of being able to do it, it's about being forced to do it. Most people don't like to be forced to do things, no matter how easy. This goes both for the always-on connection and the unnecessary interactivity with other players.
Origin is another issue. My first experience with the software was pretty bad. It's buggy, it lacks options that no downloading software released after 2000 should lack and its GUI is poorly designed. Maybe it works OK for some people, but definitely not the case for everyone. And that's leaving aside the way it scans your PC and consumes resources.
So well, if I want to play Sim City I'll stick to the old ones. I'm not touching this one ever.
I don't think the problem here is the need for a persistent internet connection so much as there is a lack of offline singleplayer.
It seems to be different from that of Diablo 3, where playing either by yourself or online with others requires the Internet regardless. Maxis/Will Wright have always been searching for this SimCity game where everyone's works make an impact on each other.
They're just so enthusiastic about the idea of a totally interconnected SimCity world made by the players that they forgot that some people don't actually want that for their SimCity experience.
Personally, I'm on board with the concepts they're trying to use. Their focus on an internet connection isn't so much about copyright protection as it is a closely-banded community that produces an interactive world that goes past the individual gamer's control. And I think achieving that would be such a great thing.
But that doesn't mean they have to exclude the individual who may not appreciate that.
It seems to be different from that of Diablo 3, where playing either by yourself or online with others requires the Internet regardless. Maxis/Will Wright have always been searching for this SimCity game where everyone's works make an impact on each other.
They're just so enthusiastic about the idea of a totally interconnected SimCity world made by the players that they forgot that some people don't actually want that for their SimCity experience.
Personally, I'm on board with the concepts they're trying to use. Their focus on an internet connection isn't so much about copyright protection as it is a closely-banded community that produces an interactive world that goes past the individual gamer's control. And I think achieving that would be such a great thing.
But that doesn't mean they have to exclude the individual who may not appreciate that.
I live here.rolfwesselius said:Where do you live?
Because i dont understand how my internet is this[http://www.speedtest.net]good.
While i live in a small town in holland.
I just dont get it.
This is a fairly average day for me.
Sooo ... After BF3 and ME3, the new SimCity is hopping straight onto the list of "EA games requiring Origin and having ridiculous mechanics inbound."
So, instead of a screwed-up server management, or the useless Ending-o-tron ... We now have Always-on-DRM in a theoretically-singleplayer-but-actually-multiplayer game?
Right ... Let me put this bluntly: Fuck off, EA.
So, instead of a screwed-up server management, or the useless Ending-o-tron ... We now have Always-on-DRM in a theoretically-singleplayer-but-actually-multiplayer game?
Right ... Let me put this bluntly: Fuck off, EA.
Possible mods eh?
...Some rather eccentric people are going to have to be rather creative to implement a nude mod for SimCity.
....Maybe a red light district with large billboards...
Oh yeah, and always online game shit for what some/most want to be a single player experience, grr grr.
...Some rather eccentric people are going to have to be rather creative to implement a nude mod for SimCity.
....Maybe a red light district with large billboards...
Oh yeah, and always online game shit for what some/most want to be a single player experience, grr grr.
You mean my post above the one you quoted? About pirates?Glademaster said:
I wasn't saying DRM was good in that first comment. I was saying whenever it pops up, people who pirate games (and music) use it as an excuse to pirate everything. Like, Assassin's Creed had DRM, so some people said "This is why I pirate ALL Ubisoft games."
DRM opens a window and the pirates kick down the door, pretending they are part of some movement protesting against "the big guys" and fighting DRM. They just want free shit.
DRM is stupid and pointless, but I don't really care about it in the games I buy (mostly). Pirates using it as an excuse to steal anything they want while saying DRM is somehow the worst thing to ever happens is worse.
I dunno if that clears up the confusion but hopefully it didn't confuse it more, lol.
Online DRM is fine so long as they make it well known that it's required. Considering the release date is still TBA and this piece is already out, that requirement is met.
Seriously, you don't get pissed off that an XBox Game can't be played on a PS3, or that you can't use the 64-bit mode of PC games on a computer that only runs XP.
Seriously, you don't get pissed off that an XBox Game can't be played on a PS3, or that you can't use the 64-bit mode of PC games on a computer that only runs XP.
Good lord. How do you even manage to put up articles on here?Andy Chalk said:I live here.rolfwesselius said:Where do you live?
Because i dont understand how my internet is this[http://www.speedtest.net]good.
While i live in a small town in holland.
I just dont get it.
[http://www.speedtest.net]
This is a fairly average day for me.