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Soushi

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Hey there peoples. Now, i am not sure if this fall into the realm of fan fiction or not, but here's hoping it doesn't. I know what a dismal failure it might be, but i have written this up and plan to send this idea to the company that makes Star Trek.

It is 20 years since the Dominion war. In a quadrant that is still deeply divided, a special division of the Federation is born. this division sets about building the Avalon, a ship that truly contains elements of technology from all prominent races. The Klingons, the Cardassians, the Romulans, the Betazoids, Andorians, and many other races contribute both crew and technology to build the Avalon, one of the most versatile and powerful ships in the Galaxy. The Captain is human, the commander is Romulan, the Security officer Klingon and so on and so forth. While the crew get off to a rocky start, they eventually put start to aside their differences to deal with an increased Borg threat. In the first episode, the Borg have been following the Avalon's construction and built an exact replica, to test what the federation does against a truly unwinnable situation. Using spy bots, they copy every single move the Avalon makes, shield and weapon strength, crew losses, everything. A critical mistake that is revealed when the Avalon crew beams all of their crew over to the Borg Avalon, and the Borg copy them. The crew then uses the borg enhanced technology to destroy the Original Avalon, but as a result are in control of a vastly more powerful ship. So, they not only have to watch their backs against the Borg threat without, but the Borg threat aboard their own ship. So begins the arduous journey of the UAQC (United Alpha Quadrent Coalition) Avalon, their continuing mission, to ensure safety, security and peace in the Alpha quadrant... as well as seeking out new life and new civilizations. With a skilled but divided crew, the Avalon takes to the Stars.

Sorry this is so long. If you guys want i can add more character detail. I am looking for constructive criticism and ideas that will help make this project a reality.

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Omikron009

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I'm not a huge star trek fan, but I think I know some things, and isn't the technology of certain races inferior to others by a rather large margin? I think that a Federation ship with Klingon technology on it wouldn't be more versatile, just weaker.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Soushi

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Omikron009 said:
I'm not a huge star trek fan, but I think I know some things, and isn't the technology of certain races inferior to others by a rather large margin? I think that a Federation ship with Klingon technology on it wouldn't be more versatile, just weaker.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
That was a thought, but that's why they have so many races, in the hopes that all the weaknesses and strengths will build on each other to create something stronger
 

The Unskilled78

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I would like to appologize if this seems nitpicky, but Star Trek is basically my main interest, so I care deeply.

1. Endgame (the finale of Voyager) basically neuters the borg to Pakled levels.
2. Betazed and Andorian tech are already incorporated into the Federation.
3. Given how difficult it was to keep the Klingons and Romulans friendly in DS9, I doubt even the big three could agree to cooperate that closely.
4. Why and how would the Borg do such a wasteful (& unprecedented) thing as copy-paste an entire enemy starship?
5. UQAC? the Klingon empire is in the Beta Quadrant, Peta'q. (Sol is on the demarcation line between Alpha and Beta.)
6. Avalon (being the name of the final repose of King Arther) does not really seem appropriate for a ship of war, like Defiant or Enterprise, or exploration, like Voyager

Finally, it seems like the Avalon will veer too quickly in to Sue-Ship-ness. (the best of all the A/B empires + the borg?)

Just my nitpicks. Pay no mind, if you wish.
 

Soushi

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The Unskilled78 said:
I would like to appologize if this seems nitpicky, but Star Trek is basically my main interest, so I care deeply.

1. Endgame (the finale of Voyager) basically neuters the borg to Pakled levels.
2. Betazed and Andorian tech are already incorporated into the Federation.
3. Given how difficult it was to keep the Klingons and Romulans friendly in DS9, I doubt even the big three could agree to cooperate that closely.
4. Why and how would the Borg do such a wasteful (& unprecedented) thing as copy-paste an entire enemy starship?
5. UQAC? the Klingon empire is in the Beta Quadrant, Peta'q. (Sol is on the demarcation line between Alpha and Beta.)
6. Avalon (being the name of the final repose of King Arther) does not really seem appropriate for a ship of war, like Defiant or Enterprise, or exploration, like Voyager

Finally, it seems like the Avalon will veer too quickly in to Sue-Ship-ness. (the best of all the A/B empires + the borg?)

Just my nitpicks. Pay no mind, if you wish.
Firstly, nitpicking is what i wanted, so thank you.
Okay: #1: I was under the understanding that the borg were weakened, but not destroyed
#2:i am aware, i jsut figured i would mention them anyways
#3: That is why this will be so interesting, the conflict could be interesting. YOu are absolutly right though
#4: They intended to see what teh Feds would do in an unwinnable situation. But be assured, they fully intended to destroy the Avalon as soon as they were finished. Basically, the idea was that the Borg are a bit desperate and sick of trying the same old smae old.
#5: I did not know that, thank you for telling me.
#6: It isn't meant to be a warship, it is a "Peacemaker" class vessel,and teh name explains all. Also, I picked it just because it sounded cool.
#7: the idea is that the Avalon won't work perfectly at all times, that teh clashing of technology may casue more problems then advantages.

If there is anything else you wish to add, i implore you to do so.
 

PinkAngelKitty

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So is this a pitch for one episode of a whole new show? Because you haven't really provided enough information for a show.

Plus the who united but divided thing was kind of done to death in voyager and deep space nine, imo
 

Soushi

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PinkAngelKitty said:
So is this a pitch for one episode of a whole new show? Because you haven't really provided enough information for a show.

Plus the who united by divided thing was kind of done to death in voyager and deep space nine, imo
I would have put more, bu i figured no one would read it... kinda like what has happened now. Oh well, i'll try again in a few weeks.
 

PinkAngelKitty

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Soushi said:
PinkAngelKitty said:
So is this a pitch for one episode of a whole new show? Because you haven't really provided enough information for a show.

Plus the who united by divided thing was kind of done to death in voyager and deep space nine, imo
I would have put more, bu i figured no one would read it... kinda like what has happened now. Oh well, i'll try again in a few weeks.
Don't get so down in the dumps because people are criticizing and challenging your ideas. Rise to the occasion! More. Give me more ideas. I'm a huge trekkie so my input may be valuable.
 

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The Unskilled78 said:
I would like to appologize if this seems nitpicky, but Star Trek is basically my main interest, so I care deeply.

1. Endgame (the finale of Voyager) basically neuters the borg to Pakled levels.
2. Betazed and Andorian tech are already incorporated into the Federation.
3. Given how difficult it was to keep the Klingons and Romulans friendly in DS9, I doubt even the big three could agree to cooperate that closely.
4. Why and how would the Borg do such a wasteful (& unprecedented) thing as copy-paste an entire enemy starship?
5. UQAC? the Klingon empire is in the Beta Quadrant, Peta'q. (Sol is on the demarcation line between Alpha and Beta.)
6. Avalon (being the name of the final repose of King Arther) does not really seem appropriate for a ship of war, like Defiant or Enterprise, or exploration, like Voyager

Finally, it seems like the Avalon will veer too quickly in to Sue-Ship-ness. (the best of all the A/B empires + the borg?)

Just my nitpicks. Pay no mind, if you wish.
Some good ideas, I haven't followed Star Trek in a while, (since Voyager) so I'm out of the loop on the Borg.

Actually, part of the reason I stopped watching was that the writers were relying on the Borg too much lately for generic "bad guys you can't negotiate with".

Part of the reason I loved the series' in the first place was the creatively written aliens, both hostile and otherwise.
 

Soushi

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PinkAngelKitty said:
Soushi said:
PinkAngelKitty said:
So is this a pitch for one episode of a whole new show? Because you haven't really provided enough information for a show.

Plus the who united by divided thing was kind of done to death in voyager and deep space nine, imo
I would have put more, bu i figured no one would read it... kinda like what has happened now. Oh well, i'll try again in a few weeks.
Don't get so down in the dumps because people are criticizing and challenging your ideas. Rise to the occasion! More. Give me more ideas. I'm a huge trekkie so my input may be valuable.
Actually, Nitpicking and Criticism were exactly what i wanted. Alright, i will give more ideas.

So, the Avalon is now more or less set up. The Borg are teh stand in bad guys, but there is more emphasis on the enemies being those who want teh Avalon for themselves, or who want to break the ship apart. The Orion syndicate will make a few appearances as well, with thier main objective being to capture the Avalon and steal as much tech as they can. The Klingons and Romulans are closer than ever before to signing a treaty, but if there is anything more dangerous than when they are enemies, it is when they are trying to scrabble for anyhitng they can get before the treaty is signed. Of course this will also result in nasty break away factions. I had also had a thought. The Captain, Rayvond Trayle, is a middle aged Captain who was put on the Avalon after an accident destroyed his previous ship. He had fought in the Dominion war when he was much younger, breeding a deep hatred of both war, and of the Jem'haddar in him.
He has a wife who works for the federation as a scientist who studies pre-warp species. After an accident, she is killed because the Federation refuses to step in and stop the indiginous people from killing her. As a result, the Captain begins to drift more and more away from the federation. I had thought that eventually, it would turn into an all out rebellion, with the Avalon splitting completely. There is this planet where the ecosystem is breaking down, resulting in massive starvation and devastation to a race that is only a few decades away from warp travel.
Trayle decides to hell with the Prime directive and begins pulling as many people off the planet as possible, making him an enemy of the Federation. Now, of course he will eventually return, but for a little while the Avalon goes around doing what it does best, fixing shit without teh Federation breathing down its neck. Basically, most of the episodes will be standard star trek fare, with spacial anomolies and nasty situations.
However, there will be one episode, where it starts off looking like it is gonna be another one of those awful holodeck tragedies. However, the Cpatain literally grabs the security officers Batleth and slashes the wiring, causing the holodeck to shut down, and the episode to be about something else.
Anyhoo, that's all for now. Any questions or comments, i would be more than happy to oblige.
 

The Unskilled78

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Soushi said:
However, there will be one episode, where it starts off looking like it is gonna be another one of those awful holodeck tragedies. However, the Cpatain literally grabs the security officers Batleth and slashes the wiring, causing the holodeck to shut down, and the episode to be about something else.
QAPLA!
 

bluepilot

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em, Borg and Spybots?

It does not seem like the nature of the borg to spy on things

Plus the Borg have been used in a lot of star treks already, why not create an origional enemy?
 

RUINER ACTUAL

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Let it die? Let the series be remembered for what it was. Don't let fans ruin it just to have a new show.
 

Simalacrum

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That plot kinda sounds overly complicated... If you look at other Star Trek series, you can delve very deeply into the whole thing and find loads of information about other species, politics, etc, but for the average viewer its pretty simple.

Good example, Star Trek: Voyager. Yes, theres the whole thing about the Care Taker and Maquiee and whatnot, but the general premise is "ship gets stuck in Delta quadrant, needs to get home". Its easy to understand.

Your story goes well to the point of "new shiny ship designed to protect the Alpha quadrant", but the whole Borg sub-plot and getting a whole new ship from it kinda makes it over complicated. I think it can do without that part. Other than that, interesting idea!