New Stargate Movie Trilogy Coming From Original Creators

[Something Amyss]

Though in the end, I'm just disappointed that they're rebooting another thing. I'd rather see more original content.

I'd like to see more Stargate, just not particularly this version. Then again, I struggle to think of how they could make it worse than SGU.

So basically the only reason people even remember the forgettable, not particularly good movie or why it would have any audience at all is the very thing it's trying to distance itself from.

Great.

Not only that, but I bet it takes shots at the TV series.

Oh yeah, I love the original film. Call me a hipster but I watched Stargate before the TV series so it still stands as the great beginning for me. Looking forward to this.

The film is the reason I skipped out on the show in its first 2...Maybe 3 seasons. I missed a lot of episodes with both this and Buffy the Vampire Slayer in their original run because they were tied with those movies.

Last year when Roland Emmerich expressed his disgust for the apparent abomination that was SG-1 (he REALLY hates that show), he also specified that his planned movies would tie directly into the original. While it's not on paper, there is direct word-of-mouth from the director.

Yeah, he's said this a few times now. He seems to hate the show more than Bob hates the Amazing Spider-Man movies. I doubt strongly we'll see anything from the show.

Even though, as everyone points out, this is the only reason (enough) people care enough about the brand to merit a reboot.

Also why does yet another thing have to be bloody rebooted?

Because ponies. Also, because a half-ass third series didn't do so hot because it was boring and tried to be something other than Stargate, so there's clearly nothing more we can do with the franchise except REBOOT.

Seriously, even without the Goa'uld as a primary threat, the Stargate was one of those things that could lead to endless adventure, and they're too creatively bankrupt to come up with anything. At least, that's my guess.

As a side note, I loved the SG-1 RPG by AEG, partially because the setting is already a fertile one.

 

[deth2munkies]

The movie was OK, SG-1 was about 8 seasons of awesome, which is far above the median. If they're gonna throw that away, I really don't care.

Independence Day doesn't need a sequel either. I really don't get the whole "unnecessary sequel of movie from late 90s/early 2000s" going on lately. I mean the stories had a good arc culminating in a satisfying ending. You don't need to go either making that ending irrelevant, misleading, or at the very least, not final.

 

[AnnaIME]

Me: They're making a new Stargate movie.
Husband: Yaay!
Me: They explicitly said it's going to be nothing like the shows but just like the old movie.
Husband: Oh. Well, that saves us a trip to the cinema.

 

[TiberiusEsuriens]

Though in the end, I'm just disappointed that they're rebooting another thing. I'd rather see more original content.

A BIG advantage here though is that, like Star Trek, there's still a ton of room for new stories. Everyone was hoping SGU would break the mold and be about something else in the universe other than the good ole' US of A, but instead it just rehashed old territory and did poorly as a result. I like to pretend that the new movies will generate another TV series that won't suck. (key word pretend)

Also why does yet another thing have to be bloody rebooted?

I don't know how picky this is, but everyone (news story included) is referring to these movies as a straight up reboot.

Roland Emmerich, the '94 movie creator, considers the upcoming movies as canon sequels, continuing directly from where he left off.

If you're a fan of Brad Wright's SG-1 ('97-'07) then it would be considered a pseudo reboot. Same source material, but all of SG-1, SGA, and SGU will be considered in the same manner as the Star Wars Expanded Universe (now called Legacy). Its still canon, just alternate universe canon.

Even though, as everyone points out, this is the only reason (enough) people care enough about the brand to merit a reboot.

That makes me laugh a ton, because unlike Star Wars where long time fans will begrudgingly accept the EU sidelining in favor of more big movies, The core Stargate audience will most likely watch the new movies just to scoff at them, and then go right back to watching all 15 seasons of the show. (I pretend SGU doesn't count >.<)

 

[spartandude]

Yeah....no.

Ignoring ....how many years of tv shows and movies to reboot?
Ugh.

I mean really what is the point of rebooting if you have so many other things to use in the universe.[/quote


This, i remember they planned to do something with Atlantis after it ended like how they did the post sg1 movies.

 

[Shinkicker444]

I dunno, Im somewhat optimistic. I really liked the original movie (watched it tonight in fact) and the TV series. I'm sad that he really hated the series though, because a reboot or continuation directly from the original movie with sly nods or easter eggs to the series would have been pretty awesome.

Some reason I'm picturing the movie going pretty much something like Anubis invasion or something if it's a continuation or trilogy, after all there were three major pyramids at Giza, so unless Ra had 3 ships (the selfish jerk), mayhap he wasn't the only "Egyptian god" still floating around like the original movie claimed. That's the only reason why I could see it being a trilogy. Open gate, meet ra, kill ra, go back to earth, osiris comes to earth with one or two others, queue michael bay level of pyrotechnics, rar 'merica saves the day.

 

[McMarbles]

But the original movie was awful compared to the TV show...

 

[SerBrittanicus]

I liked the original movie, but it was completely outdone by the series - both SG1 and Atlantis (Universe doesn't count), so I don't have any particularly great hopes for the new trilogy.

This, i remember they planned to do something with Atlantis after it ended like how they did the post sg1 movies.

They were planning on making a movie similar to the sg1 movies to wrap everything up rather than just leaving everything unresolved in the final episode. I don't know what happened to that though, but since Atlantis was cancelled (It was the scyfy channels highest viewed show at the time) to make way for the abomination that was Universe I imagine it has something to do with the failure of its successor.

Hopefully these new films will convince someone to carry on with Atlantis where they left off and give them a few more series - they were still pulling healthy audiences and making money when they were cancelled, so hopefully someone less stupid than ScyFy will see the benefit.

 

[Deathfish15]

No. Just no. HELL NO! Absolutely, positively, without a doubt FUCK NO!


The movie was "so-so" at best, but instead it was the TV series that was the cult hit. A great interweaving of lore, mythology, and sci-fi. The final movies and final ties to the series are finished.

SG:U was a bust (too much drama parallel to Battlestar Galactica).

SG:A was sadly abandoned (running same seasons as SG:U, and some of the SG:1? Who's stupid idea was that?!)

SG:1 finished. It was already slipping away when McGuyver was replaced with FarScape cast.



To reboot the series/movie....is just wrong. They'll only hurt it, not help it (see Spiderman movies, see Batman movies, see...anything that's been rebooted or remade, or made with a childhood idea from the 1990's in the past decade).

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Atlantis was good. It had an episode where Bill Nye played an arrogant, bumbling scientist jerk reminiscent of Wernstrom.

 

[Zontar]

Atlantis was good. It had an episode where Bill Nye played an arrogant, bumbling scientist jerk reminiscent of Wernstrom.

Wasn't Neil Degrasse Tyson also in that episode? Man, that was a great episode for nerds, so many jokes, so many references. So many things we won't be seeing in the reboot trilogy because apparently comedy and lightheartedness is bad, even if it is 90% of the IP's appeal.

 

[EvilRoy]

Atlantis was good. It had an episode where Bill Nye played an arrogant, bumbling scientist jerk reminiscent of Wernstrom.

I don't think I saw that one, I'll have to look it up.

OT:

Honestly, all this news story has made me realize is how little I cared about the movie and how much I enjoyed the series. And not just because MacGyver is awesome, and aged surprisingly well.

I suppose the movie was interesting, like the ideas had a pulse and the tone more or less fit, but it was that mid nineties sort of dull where they kept the depressing bits of 80's war movies but cut out the ultraviolence. Apparently it did very well overall (so sayeth wikipedia), but nobody I know has thought about or cared about it since.

 

[El Luck]

Cool, looking forward to it. I fail to see what the problem is.
The two dudes who created the movie originally didn't agree with the route the TV show went in, and now they get a chance to finish showing us their vision. fair enough, I'm not entirely sure the route they would have taken it in so lets see how they do it with the films them, after all even if it is shit, the TV shows and the original film aren't going anywhere now are they? (by the way the answer your looking for is no)

Also the idea that the film is forgettable is amusing to me, so forgettable they decided to make a spin off TV show. Yup, makes perfect sense. Cynical sods.

 

[Bindal]

(see Spiderman movies, see Batman movies, see...anything that's been rebooted or remade, or made with a childhood idea from the 1990's in the past decade).

YOu know, it's kind of bad from you to list a GOOD reboot (with Batman as the Dark Knight Saga was a Reboot of the Batman Movies, more or less).
And a Reboot isn't always bad, you know? Next to the mentioned Dark Knight movies, I could also, for example, point at the new XCOM. Or how about the TMNT Series (NOT the upcoming movie). That got two reboots, which were/are considered good for the most part (03-series had some issues near the end - but it's not like the original cartoon was perfect all the time)

But in this case, yes, a reboot would be bad. Of everything, at least. Saying "let's do a minor Reboot of it and make movies set before Universe and maybe scrap the last few Episodes of Atlantis, too to get that series to a better closure..." But nope, they go with "sequel to the original movie most people consider inferior to the series" which is going to be pretty bad no matter what.

Atlantis was good. It had an episode where Bill Nye played an arrogant, bumbling scientist jerk reminiscent of Wernstrom.

Wasn't Neil Degrasse Tyson also in that episode? Man, that was a great episode for nerds, so many jokes, so many references. So many things we won't be seeing in the reboot trilogy because apparently comedy and lightheartedness is bad, even if it is 90% of the IP's appeal.

Yep. And they were both playing themselves. Or maybe funny versions of themselves.

Cool, looking forward to it. I fail to see what the problem is.
The two dudes who created the movie originally didn't agree with the route the TV show went in, and now they get a chance to finish showing us their vision. fair enough, I'm not entirely sure the route they would have taken it in so lets see how they do it with the films them, after all even if it is shit, the TV shows and the original film aren't going anywhere now are they? (by the way the answer your looking for is no)

The problem is - the original movie wasn't that good. It was a good watch, but it was hardly outstanding. The series, on the other hand, was. And now the movie-makers seem to reboot the whole thing apparently only because they didn't like the series and are jealous of it's success.

 

[marscentral]

I don't get the hate on here for SGU. It wasn't as good as SG1, but like a lot of scifi shows (including SG1 and Atlantis) it took a while to find it's feet.

Like most people it seems, I liked the original film but agree that it's not a patch on the TV shows it inspired. Unless I hear trusted sources say differently, I'm going to assume this reboot will be "okay" at best.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

UUmmm thats like saying Empire strikes back and Return of the Jedi did not happen.....good luck with that.........

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

I liked the movie just fine, But I love the series SG-1 and Atlantis SGU got a lot better in the second season IMO.

So I'm torn between giving Emmerich the finger or thinking it might be worth a watch.

 

[Bindal]

I don't get the hate on here for SGU. It wasn't as good as SG1, but like a lot of scifi shows (including SG1 and Atlantis) it took a while to find it's feet.

Mostly because it felt more like a soap opera rather than a proper Stargate series.

 

[SeventhSigil]

Cool, looking forward to it. I fail to see what the problem is.
The two dudes who created the movie originally didn't agree with the route the TV show went in, and now they get a chance to finish showing us their vision. fair enough, I'm not entirely sure the route they would have taken it in so lets see how they do it with the films them, after all even if it is shit, the TV shows and the original film aren't going anywhere now are they? (by the way the answer your looking for is no)

Also the idea that the film is forgettable is amusing to me, so forgettable they decided to make a spin off TV show. Yup, makes perfect sense. Cynical sods.

Probably because between this and Stargate Universe, the two most recent stabs at the franchise have decided to try and take it away from the very thing that made it so successful in the first place. In the case of SGU, as has been mentioned, it was pretty much straight up Battlestar Galactica with stargates, which would have been fine if they'd at least been as good as Battlestar Galactica at BEING Battlestar Galactica. In this case, the movie in question looks to be distancing itself from all the elements that made the show great, which again is fine if they can bring in something just as good or better to replace it. However, the consensus of many is that the original movie, and it's own style and elements, does not really count as 'as good or better.'

In my case, I'm curious to see what they will do with a movie not based on the television franchise. But frankly, I'm only going to be genuinely interested in it if they also distance themselves (a LOT) from the original movie.

As for forgettable, it's all relative. Chances are that of the Stargate Fanbase, a majority of them are going to be fans of the show. Sure, some of those fans might also have be fans of the movie, but you're not as likely to find the same mindset as Emmerich's, i.e. 'All the shows were crap, Stargate movie foreva!' wheras 'Movie was meh, show forever!' seems more common. So the news that a new movie series, which would normally be greeted by excitement since there's been a definite Stargate draught for awhile now, isn't actually going to associate itself with perhaps 95% of the franchise's identity, will be greeted either with mixed interest from those who are fans of both the show and the movie, ("Oh, that could be cool too.") or outright disappointment from those who were simply fans of the show. You're not likely to see much; 'HELL YA! Finally, Stargate as it was meant to be done!'

(The question of why this should irritate people at all when the shows will still be around is that, in all likelihood, I would imagine that many fans of the show would like this funding or effort to be geared towards the perpetuation and expansion of the shows' established universe. Not some New Star Trek splintering which, if it succeeds, might well end up supplanting the shows' style and canon as the mainstream focus, and if it fails, will send off the message to any future investors that 'Yup, Stargate is dead, no need to try another project!')

 

[Signa]

If you're a fan of Brad Wright's SG-1 ('97-'07) then it would be considered a pseudo reboot. Same source material, but all of SG-1, SGA, and SGU will be considered in the same manner as the Star Wars Expanded Universe (now called Legacy). Its still canon, just alternate universe canon.

You know, I'm OK with that. Not only does the show's lore allow for alternate timelines, but just as Teal'c said, "our universe is the only one that matters"