New US ISP sanctioned/controlled piracy database will mean the end to internet privacy.

[The Random One]

What would be neat is a program that constantly reassigns your IP address every few seconds, or perhaps every time you open the internet.

It's called dial-up.

 

[Vausch]

WHAT THE FUCK!?

I don't condone piracy, but this is even MORE deplorable. God damn it, this is literally something Orwell could cook up.

I'm tempted to make a picture of a owrwell with a trollface, but this is so bad it's not even funny.

Would you mind if I steal that idea?

I guess we can all give our support to Anonymous, I have my doubts they'll take this lying down.

 

[Jacco]

You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.

I don't pirate anything and this bothers me on principle. Where does it end? Who controls the information? What's to stop them from selling your internet habits and history? What if you apply for a job and the prospective employer can request your internet habits and history as part of a background check?

 

[Jelly ^.^]

AND IN OTHER NEWS, 50,000,000 US internet users have started using the TOR network over the past fifteen minutes...

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

Fuck this.

Thank God I'm not in America...but things aren't much better in Australia either with the censorship.

How can they do this? Like seriously?

 

[Jelly ^.^]

Fuck this.

Thank God I'm not in America...but things aren't much better in Australia either with the censorship.

How can they do this? Like seriously?

THOUGHTCRIME!

But we're going to be in a worse position with the NBN when it's finished.

A government monopoly on all the prolenet access before ISP's get to sell it means unrestricted power to censor it.

ACMA is secretly the Minitrue. Since last Tuesday they've blocked 51 websites at ISP level. [http://www.classification.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/ClassificationsByDate?OpenView]

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Well, it was nice living through the entire life-cycle of the free internet.

/salutes

You will be missed.

 

[player3141]

Why arrest when the ISP can just slow down/cut off the offender's internet? So much faster and easier.

ISPs still want your business, if they cut off your internet, then they don't get your money. If it weren't for the ISPs' fear of being sued, they wouldn't cooperate with anyone.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well we could all cancel our internet. Nope. There's no way this can be legal. Maybe if enough people know about this, there will be protests and maybe the government might do something about it.

I wouldn't count on it. Internet is too much a part of many people's daily lives now to give up.

 

[little.09]

It won't bother you from a practical standpoint if you don't illegally download.

It can still bother you on principle regardless.
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Men can still care about Women's Rights. Straight people can still care about Gay Rights. Human beings can still care about Animal Rights.

Why do you feel that in this one area people need to be directly affected to give a shit, when they don't have to be in any other?

Did you just draw a parallel between piracy and women's/gay rights? Um, alright... that's an interesting analogy. Piracy is kind of illegal you know. Last time I checked, it wasn't a basic human right like, say what women's/gay rights and such.

in some places its expressly illegal to be gay. and i personally support all gay people in those areas to keep doing what they're doing, and im a straight male, so that analogy did hold weight.

OP: this is bullshit but someone will find a way around it, not that they should have to

 

[Xanthious]

I don't pirate. I have a friend that does, and constantly tells me to, but I still don't... but I honestly just think that pirates will get past it and it will just wasted. It also might harm others who didn't think to put a password on their internet, which is their fault but sometimes it happens.

OP: this is bullshit but someone will find a way around it, not that they should have to

The pirates have been ahead of this since about 1980 when usenet was first brought into being. Today most usenet providers offer up 256 bit SSL encryption and they won't be getting past that any time soon. More and more people that want to download large files (for whatever reason) privately will be switching over to usenet. Others that are a bit more tech savvy will go to darknets. Then there will be some that just mask their IP or "borrow" a wifi connection and stick with bit torrents and go on like nothing ever happened while the government, ISPs and the copyright wackos keep throwing money at a problem they can never hope to win. Keep fighting that good fight though fellas you've made absolutely ZERO headway since you began this futile war on piracy, in fact you've lost ground on an embarrassing scale. Good job!

 

[Sprinal]

Cue anonymous!

Well if I ever try and access anything in the U.S I will be Using TOR.

Also as an Australian I think I can laugh for 5 minutes until the government tries to do the same thing here.


Oh Orwell if only you could come back...

 

[giggetygooo]

raging, raging nerds

 

[FalloutJack]

Nope. This is completely untennable. Let's see here...

There are...too many pirates to 'monitor' and 'pursue', guaranteed, so there's almost no chance they have the resources to handle this. It's as unethical AS the piracy it means to destroy, in that it's an attempt at legalized corporate hacking, and therefore will never be accepted. It forgets that the pirates are invariably wily buggers who crash anti-THEM measures almost immediately after they're out of the box.

And then, of course, there is the OBVIOUS result of an action like this. Of the many hackers and pirates that exist, their numbers will multiply exponentially due to being unwilling to accept this shit. Essentially, this fans the flames and adds gasoline. There's not even a debate here. It just WILL, no matter the opinion. How many times do I have to say it? The more you try to rub it out, the more it will fight like a ************ and WIN. You can't beat out the flames with fire.

 

[vgmaster831]

I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off (as an excuse for piracy).

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.

You can keep posting this as many times as you want and you are never going to get anyone on your side...

OT: Pretty ridiculous, but it seems like a rumor right now. We'll have to wait and see.

So 'your side' would be that the internet is a God given right, 'Freedom of Information' should allow piracy of games, movies, ect, and that fighting internet piracy is bad.

Glad we know each other better : )

Maybe the internet is a government-given right. After all, isn't everything on the internet a form of speech. I don't give a damn what God says I can do, but I think my privacy and my right to free speech are important enough for the government step in here.

 

[Snotnarok]

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I love how smug and high and mighty you are, yet you have no ground to stand on. It's not admiration you smug "Fawx" it's fact, name one security that hasn't been broken, PSN, FBI, HDMI, always on DRM, itunes, steam it's all been hacked. Because hackers don't work on the clock, businesses do. And where do you think the hackers go when they get caught? They're hired by security firms.

And by your logic, you and I, people who do not hack or illegally download stuff should be punished for what pirates do. And what happens when this is bipassed? They should just be able to log on to your PC and look at your files?

This is exactly what you're pitching, because they have the right to protect their stuff the should be able to break the law and monitor your computers activities and makes sure you're not doing anything illegal. What happened to innocent till proven guilty? No I really don't feel like being watched because some goon is pirating Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 2.

A mulitbillion dollar company losing a few million while still making BILLIONS is not my concern, it's their problem to figure out and I'm not involved in it so, why should I be monitored and have this bullshit put on me? No, there's a better way and the fact that this is even being considered is hilarious to me, it's against the law and the only reason they're even getting this consideration is because they're so filthy rich. And the fact you're for this, you're literally for being watched for a crime you're not committing just blows my mind.

So tone back your smugness and downtalking, I don't pirate stuff and I'll shoot you down the moment you ask for proof, I got a wall of proof I don't pirate. But I know for a fact this or anything else won't stop pirates, they're persistent, they will keep trying, when someone says impossible, look at how many times the FBI has been hacked, or all the different DRMs. This will fail like anything else and they will just stack more and more oppressive bullshit on us for it. You know, people who AREN'T doing anything illegal are getting punished.

I'm not siding with the pirates, I'm not siding with the multibillion dollar companies, I'm siding with people not being monitored for shit they're not doing. But you can side with the big guys if you want. All I know is if this passes, the internet will be worse for it.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

I don't really pirate things anymore, but this is a step in the wrong direction for sure. The majority of government parties around the world(and corporations) want privacy abolished on the internet.

ISP want this so they can charge you a SHIT ton of money for the content you view legally(pay more for say data sent from You Tube, or game servers).

Media companies want it so you held accountable for the content you might pirate.

Governments want it so they can stop crimes, and of course collect the taxes from the above two.

This is simply another blow in the side to net neutrality, which is something that is being threatened more and more lately.

Capitalism will destroy the internet and its free wealth of information because of piracy. There will be a day that browsing pornography will cost you more per MB(or GB) than it will be to read the new, because ISP know that porn = more $$$ for them.

If this really concerns you so much look up your countries Pirate Party, and support them. These are the guys that are attempting to stop this kind of stuff from happening(well not this because they don't condone downloading illegal content), but they believe in keeping the internet and open place.

Also if it is one company keeping all this information, what kind of privacy policies are they being held to? They will be sitting on a wealth of information, in the form of statistics, that companies will want to purchase.

I guess I must be misinterpreting the article because I see nothing here to get angry about if you are using the internet for legal purposes.

ISP's will hold information they already hold. Information will not be shared unless there is legal cause to do so. And the individual ISP can choose the punishment they want to inflict towards the person breaking the law. Meaning if you don't like how your provider handles your illegal use of the internet...you can find another one.

I think the biggest problem here is that it is going to be managed by a company now and not enforced by the ISP which to my understanding has been the case. Your IP numbers will sit in a vault at a company who can sell this information to advertising companies, who can then direct information your way. Because lets be honest, who says these guys will only watch illegal torrents. Although illegal torrents probably make the vast majority or torrents out there, they will probably watch the legal ones as well.

This, this, this THIS!

This guy gets it.