New Windows OS May Launch by 2013
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Considering Windows 8 is not exactly an upgrade from Windows 7, I suppose it is best to get it out of the way quickly. Though I hope Windows Blue isn't even worse...
Maybe Blue will be a bit more lenient to dual booting than 7. It took me a while to get Linux on my new PC that came with 7, and I was a bit frustrated with it for a while.
Because, I mean really:
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What's cooler than that?
Maybe Blue will be a bit more lenient to dual booting than 7. It took me a while to get Linux on my new PC that came with 7, and I was a bit frustrated with it for a while.
Because, I mean really:
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What's cooler than that?
I suspect we are talking about the Win8ARM version rather than the Win8x86 version. They are not going to over throw their entire volume licencing model to copy OS X, which accounts for about 9% of the desktop market. It makes sense to copy the android/IoS model for Win8ARM because Microsoft have no real presence in that market.
Honestly I'm not even upgrading from windows seven seeing how windows 8 is a closed platform. I like my little indie games, and even though I have to worry about viruses it is a fair trad in my eyes. I'll keep an eye on windows blue, if it is an open platform I will upgrade, if not windows 7 is still awesome for me.
Try Ubuntu, it's the easiest to get into while still having all the customization of a typical Linux OS.Rainforce said:wtf microsoft, I'm so going linux by next year...
I've already been running Ubuntu as my main os for years now, I've only had windows out of necessity as I'm a PC gamer, but you'd be surprised how many games run, and run well, in Wine. With the incoming support for linux from Valve for steam, and a lot of devs stating their distaste for windows 8, there's a good chance that a lot more linux support for games is on it's way.
A few of my friends have already started learning linux because of the problems with 8.
Windows8 on the pc isn't a closed platform. The only non API changes are a new UI and a shop THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE. All the windows installers work in the same way as win7. The Win8ARM is closed platform only to the same degree as Google play and the apple app store.Matthewmagic said:
For all you people wanting to jump onto Linux and have no clue about how to get started, we have a Linux User Group here. Feel free to drop by and ask questions!
OT- 0.o Yep. I'll forever remember 2012 as the year when MS forgot to stay away from Apple. I'm never living it down.
OT- 0.o Yep. I'll forever remember 2012 as the year when MS forgot to stay away from Apple. I'm never living it down.
while Ubuntu WAS a choice of mine some years ago, the recent changes/upgrade of the Gnome desktop as a whole and Ubuntu's new Unity thing are real turnoffs for me (no fan of the pseudo OSX style), which means I will probably go for Mint next.Waaghpowa said:Try Ubuntu, it's the easiest to get into while still having all the customization of a typical Linux OS.Rainforce said:wtf microsoft, I'm so going linux by next year...
I've already been running Ubuntu as my main os for years now, I've only had windows out of necessity as I'm a PC gamer, but you'd be surprised how many games run, and run well, in Wine. With the incoming support for linux from Valve for steam, and a lot of devs stating their distaste for windows 8, there's a good chance that a lot more linux support for games is on it's way.
A few of my friends have already started learning linux because of the problems with 8.
(have been using both windows and ubuntu for some time now)
which is pretty interesting considering how the whole gnome thing was almost '12 as well...thesilentman said:
I will forever remember this as the apple year as well.
The hardware cycle on tablets/phones is much quicker than for PCs these days, so a new API is need much sooner on the ARM based machines. Its the same reason why IoS and android gets a new API on the same cycle. I doubt they are going to do same on the Win8x86 platform. Apple upgrades every 2 years or so on OS X. Seeing that OS X only accounts for 9% of the desktop market, I don't see Microsoft throwing out the most successful desktop sales model in favour of less popular one.Olrod said:
Though I do understand that some people don't like it, I don't understand how it's a problem. You can turn off unity entirely and revert to the older gnome ui style which I've done.Rainforce said:
I hear mint is fairly decent, though I've never used it, and it's basically Ubuntu with a lot of software pre installed.
I will not replace win7 on my computer anytime soon, that's for sure. I held onto XP until my computer was choking on its own cpu cycles and new games simply refused to start. Thats the kinda situation the industry has to put me in to make me even remotely consider upgrading.
And whatever I'll be upgrading to better have user approved [Certificates of Not Shit]? plastered all over it, or I'd rather suffer the old software even longer.
And whatever I'll be upgrading to better have user approved [Certificates of Not Shit]? plastered all over it, or I'd rather suffer the old software even longer.
Says the man who doesn't work in the corporate IT world. I work at an international company and while the field gets the latest greatest OS, we are still using Windows XP. Why you ask? I'm glad you asked that. It's because when you upgrade operating systems it often times means upgrading a lot of your IT and server infrastructure which costs a lot of money. We are stuck on XP at the moment because many of the infrastructure applications we use are not up to date because iterations of some point were major changes or substantially expensive. As you said, most of the important settings and files are stored in a central area, but compatibility is the biggest issue involving OS upgrades. If you update something on the server side, it may mean you have to update everyone in the system with new OS licenses. If you upgrade all the secondary and tertiary equipment, it means that they will have compatibility issues with with information on the servers.Fasckira said:
OT: This would make sense for their mobile platform, but this doesn't make sense for the PC platform. Mac OS's do not get released annually and Google only makes mobile platform OS's. iOS gets upgraded regularly but that is once again a mobile platform.
This could mean something else. It could mean that Windows Blue is going to be a mobile divergent from the PC OS, at least for now. They could be getting a lot of feedback from PC users and a lot of it may be negative. Perhaps they are pushing back the unified platform for now, which would be a smart move.
Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot with this. Why would anyone buy a new OS every year? Especially gamers? Valve is already doing a great job at adapting Steam and it's games to Linux. And nvidia just recently released some drivers that increase the performance on Linux drastically. If this trend continues, PC gamers will simply switch to Linux. It's not that hard to create a dual booth machine with Windows 7 for older titles and Linux for new ones. Fuck Microsoft and their greedy anti-consumerism.
And that right there, assuming this is true, is where Microsoft has made a /major/ mistake. If they want to compete with Apple and Google on that, they have to at least /try/ to avoid fragmenting the market that badly. Android is currently on version 4.2, but there are few if any apps that actually require a version higher than 2.2. I don't have much experience with iOS, but I'd imagine it's got similar amounts of compatibility between app and OS versions.Fanghawk said:
Also, both Google and Apple give away the updates to their phone OSs for free, if I'm not mistaken. Apple charges for upgrades to their desktop OS, but that lasts longer than a year and doesn't create major incompatibilities.
Ugh... why? Okay, no, look, Microsoft, if you start charging under $100 (preferably something more like under $60) for every one of your OS', then maybe this wouldn't be a stupid idea. But since we all know that won't happen and every single OS they release will probably cost over $120 to get, this is a stupid idea.
I actually wonder if that's actually true. Maybe Microsoft realized they can make more money if developers focus on making games for their consoles rather than their Operating system, so they're basically trying to steer them towards console development.Mechalynx said:
This is the same disease that makes me turn away from other software, like antivirus programs. When somebody switches from "mysoftware 3.4" to "mysoftware 2013" it just makes me think they are looking to cash in as much as possible without making significant and useful upgrades to whatever it is they make.
I really think that faster release cycles make for serious waste on the part of development quality. I also agree with the earlier comment that this will cause serious issues for both backward and forward compatibility for programs. While smartphones may be a very volatile system, PCs are valued among people who use them for fidelity. That core advantage of non-mobile computing might be harmed by this system.
I really think that faster release cycles make for serious waste on the part of development quality. I also agree with the earlier comment that this will cause serious issues for both backward and forward compatibility for programs. While smartphones may be a very volatile system, PCs are valued among people who use them for fidelity. That core advantage of non-mobile computing might be harmed by this system.